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Posted by: Big Tower.5423

Big Tower.5423

I made a spec when i saw the new coming strength trait and decided to make a build out of it. Got some stats i like. i run Axe/shield small scale wvwvw. Evisicrate will hit for about 10 k on a semi sqishy target. every 7 sec. My stats are down below. Will this be viable with the 100 % burst critchance trait and burst mastery?

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Posted by: Big Tower.5423

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Posted by: LarzoSk.5412

LarzoSk.5412

With critical damage nerf, you will see more condi bunkers in WvW.

Your mega Armor will be useless against that and your only chance is burst them down in 8 seconds of your berserker stance(that will be harder with crit dmg nerf)

Without any conditioin cleanse they will just kite you around in circles.

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

No for the following reasons.

1. Your crit chance is 4%
2. Crit damage is useless without criting.
3. My reasons are not warrior specific but goes for every class and build in the game.
4. You would have to use maintenance oil. Sigil of accuracy and perhaps change your trait from burst mastery to Heighten Focus. And use Sigil of perception.

And that point you would have around 47 Crit chance which is viable. But only under the conditions of max stacks+food+Max adrenaline. However your Power would be low. Much lower than it should be so even at the point where you could crit now your crits wouldnt average at around what somone who had more power than you with less crit damage that didnt need to use maint oil, sigil of perception and accuracy/

All in All your build is not viable for those reasons. And given the reasons the onthers said about condition damage vs toughness even less so.

I would love to help you come up with something viable but this is not it. And TBH i would wait for this crit damage nerf because Cavilers is going to lose its advantage of being a tank set with crit damage to make up for low power and no precision.

Possibly Knights mixed with Valkrie is looking better. Or sadly even soldiers mixed with zerker. After the nerf.

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Posted by: Big Tower.5423

Big Tower.5423

Thanks for the suggestions, but we’l get 100 % chance on burst skill wont we?
And il not play condi. I hate that playstyle :P But thanks for the ideas!

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

Thanks for the suggestions, but we’l get 100 % chance on burst skill wont we?
And il not play condi. I hate that playstyle :P But thanks for the ideas!

I believe there is a sigil that gives 100% chance on weapon swap and if they fix it so it works with burst skills that’s the better pic. Still though you would depend on burst skills alone to kill anyone and the only build I ever saw that could do that was Riffle warrior Kill shot build. But now that is not going to hit like a truck anymore and also that build was high crit chace to be able to Crit on Volly.

I think it wont work Depending on bursts to win the rest of the fight you will be in low power mode and people will just heal.

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Posted by: Olba.5376

Olba.5376

No for the following reasons.

1. Your crit chance is 4%
2. Crit damage is useless without criting.
4. You would have to use maintenance oil. Sigil of accuracy and perhaps change your trait from burst mastery to Heighten Focus. And use Sigil of perception.

  1. Since he’s 30/0/10/0/30, I think he’s thinking of the new 100% crit on burst GM trait for Strength. Thus, if his primary source of damage is bursting, he gets to choose between building for crit chance on the non-burst hits or overall tankiness. He’s going for the latter.
  2. Look above
  3. Not really, because of the new warrior trait I explained above.

Personally, the issue I see with this build is, as pointed out above, is that the only safety you have from conditions is Berserker Stance. This literally means that you need to be able to kill every condi spec in that amount of time, regardless of how they are built. Runes of Melandru simply aren’t enough against a dedicated condi build, especially the ever-so-popular condi warriors who can easily max out their bleed duration%.
With such a low crit%, your non-burst damage is very low, so unless you get the jump on the enemy every single time, you will run into plenty of Dire-built condi specs that will be able to simply tank you while their conditions melt you like hot butter.

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

No for the following reasons.

1. Your crit chance is 4%
2. Crit damage is useless without criting.
4. You would have to use maintenance oil. Sigil of accuracy and perhaps change your trait from burst mastery to Heighten Focus. And use Sigil of perception.

  1. Since he’s 30/0/10/0/30, I think he’s thinking of the new 100% crit on burst GM trait for Strength. Thus, if his primary source of damage is bursting, he gets to choose between building for crit chance on the non-burst hits or overall tankiness. He’s going for the latter.
  2. Look above
  3. Not really, because of the new warrior trait I explained above.

Personally, the issue I see with this build is, as pointed out above, is that the only safety you have from conditions is Berserker Stance. This literally means that you need to be able to kill every condi spec in that amount of time, regardless of how they are built. Runes of Melandru simply aren’t enough against a dedicated condi build, especially the ever-so-popular condi warriors who can easily max out their bleed duration%.
With such a low crit%, your non-burst damage is very low, so unless you get the jump on the enemy every single time, you will run into plenty of Dire-built condi specs that will be able to simply tank you while their conditions melt you like hot butter.

Exactly your DPS is low with your only safety net is landing a burst skill. On my warrior I have never ever in the 2 years I played this game been able to kill people with only burst skills. Your DPS is low enough that people will be able to beat you through attrition and what happens if you miss landing your burst skill? You have nothing.

Lastly the new 100% crit trait is useless as everyone has already looked at this. Why becasue its simply not needed to land a burst skill. We have been landing crit modified bursts for 2 years now and never needed that trait or ever needed base crit above 40% to have a 60% chance with fury to land them which is a favorable scenario.

We looked at the new remove blind on weapon swap and already determined that it will not work if attempting to land a skill into a blind field so what then?

lastly why take a 100% chance when you could take a 50% chance with unsuspecting foe with less points. I run it on my warrior and have 100% chance to land my bursts already.

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warrior and we’re the best class” Eugene

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

Carpboy.7145

The new preview of sigil of intelligence was your next 3 attacks will automatically crit. If you use 2 of those (one on each swap) and change the build to 30/0/20/0/20 for cleansing ire then yes. Its one off the things i was going to experiment with myself


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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

same I was going to try the sigil except last time I checked that sigil didn’t work at all especially for burst skills.

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warrior and we’re the best class” Eugene