Guild Wars 2

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So I needed to make a hammer build for guild runs in WvsW. After a bit of trail and error this is what I have.

Basically: we usually run 10-15 players. Our commander (a dragonhunter) typically initiates the attacks by jumping into a section of the enemy. Everyone then bombs said location, we stay there and do damage for as long as possible, then leave once the enemy starts reacting. Typically we are fighting zergs 2-4 times our size, fighting in tandem with other friendly zergs. We are definitely small compared to our allies.

So I see my role as being:
-having my ultimate as the banner, to drop and rez downed players when needed
-Contributing stuns and crowdcontrol to the opening strike where we bomb a section of the enemy.
-Staying by the commander’s side, alive, while the fighting occurs (so need survivability and mobility)

We have a steady stack of swiftness so it’s not necessary for me to have it in my build.

Right now I’m thinking: As soon as the commander jumps I activate signet of fury and max my adrenaline so I can use Earthshaker to jump on his location (where he is bombing) and lay down the 2 second stun. Sometimes people block it though so I’m wondering if I should use signet of might for unblockable.

After I use earthshaker I’m kind of confused what attack to open with next. If I use hammer 4 it might knock players close to the edge/exit of the bomb we lay. If I use hammer 3 it will only hit people infront of me. If I use hammer 1 it only hits max 3 people and it’s slow even with quickness (from sigil of rage) on. I could switch to Gs and thousand blades maybe. I’m not sure. I have sigil of rage and ideally it would proc as soon as I jump into the enemy.

Then there are questions about whether healing signet is good idea or not. What about defiant stance or ‘to the limit’ (like signet of fury it maxes adrenaline)?

Then there’s traits:
-whether I should take merciless hammer or not. Assuming my opening strike is my heavy 2 second sun…maybe it is worth using for extra dmg? or maybe it still isn’t.

-Then there’s the other route where I put in balanced state or signet of dolyak and use destruction of empowered (more dmg) instead of brawler’s recovery (removes cond) in discipline. And then Cleansing ire (gain adren when hit and remove cond on burst) instead of last stand (automatic stability) in defense traits.

I’m still learning hammer I was never good with it, but it was a case where I never spent enough time to ‘become’ good with it. Used to running Gs+Sword/Shield….which I presently feel is superior for the pve side of wvsw. Wondering if to be viable I need to pop a power food consumable instead of a survivability/sustain one (usually use lifesteal or auto health regen)…..just hit as hard as I can in order to be viable? I should I be tanky to some extent?

Another question is whether or not I should even use Gs? I kinda just chose it because I felt I needed heavy dps. I’d be open to a different weapon (ranged probably not gonna work…)

Any guidance would be appreciated. I’m not running HoT for this so no berserker traits.

Hammer warrior isn’t really a thing anymore. I mean back in the day Warriors were the only class besides ELE that had CC. Also it was before range damage, condi and CC spaming. Was also before every class had stun a bunch of stun breaks and CC. WvW change too much and I afraid hammer warriors are no longer viable. Last time Hammer warrior was really any good was before the stability changes.

Anyways if that doesn’t change your mind shouts are pretty useless now and warhord got nerfed hard. So the old tactics warrior got nerfed on top of it all.

Make sure you are using fast with range indicator on your targeting settings and you are not using melee assist.

…. Warrior can equip hammer?

The stability nerf was the wvw killer.

What do ‘viable’ warriors run in wvsw then? Just gunflame and banner?

I don’t need to be meta, I just need to be as useful as possible. Help me

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

The stability nerf was the wvw killer.

Kay then I’ll use dolyak signet for 10 stacks of stability…? And balanced state in traits? And the other one if need be for a total of 3 stabilities…..then assuming what you said is true I will be viable since I will no longer have an issue with stability, yes?

Warlord.9074:

Make sure you are using fast with range indicator on your targeting settings and you are not using melee assist.

Ya I turned melee assist off quite a while ago. I didn’t kno about the other one though so I’ll try that out for a bit. It’s already helping with whirlwind gs3. Thanks.

Cerby, don’t listen to them.

Whoever say Hammer Warrior is no longer in flavor, really can’t have spent much time at war.

Inspiration: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_PS_Frontliner

Ash.2059:

Cerby, don’t listen to them.

Whoever say Hammer Warrior is no longer in flavor, really can’t have spent much time at war.

Inspiration: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_PS_Frontliner

Yes I’ve looked at that build.
“Our curator decided this build is in the current metagame regardless of rating. The community gave this build a rating, making it top-tier: Great.”
The rating on it has fallen though :/

lol it’s not meta thats what were trying to tell you. the hammer train meta is dead.

meta is pirate ship.. And if you are roaming in small groups of like 5 there are lots of better choices.

there should be a meme for posters who use metabattle as their talking points.

Ash.2059:

Cerby, don’t listen to them.

Whoever say Hammer Warrior is no longer in flavor, really can’t have spent much time at war.

Inspiration: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_PS_Frontliner

Please dont say that. You are surrounded by people that play war mostly. Dont try to be smart now.

This isn’t helping me…

Anyways I came to my own conclusion that someone has to give me a hammer build if they want me to use it. I’m sticking with Gs+s/sh until that time comes. And I hope ‘some’ of you restrain yourselves from posting ‘witty’ remarks when someone comes seeking clarity….Warrior community pride…..yay….

First of all, tell your commander that he suck. Hes is the 1 in charge, so he should know everything about builds, and fights, and combo,s and rotations and whats the current meta all about.
If you realy want to use hammer so badly with full power, go full zerk to begin with (those 3 trinkets that gives a bit of toughness wont make you tanky anyway)
Replace the omnonberry crap with power food. Put sigil of intelligence and sigil of impact on your hammer.
If you have full adrenaline, leap into target with earthshaker(f1), into backbreaker(skill5), into Fierceblow(skill2), into Staggering blow(skill4), then quickly into weapon swap F1 skill Arcing slice into skill 3 wirlwind attack true the enemy.
Or something. But yea, then again, enemys have stability like crazy + infinite long range bombs so this only works if the enemy is sleeping or something. Thats why Warlord said to you, hammer isnt a thing anymore. Hes saying this not that he want to troll you, or trying to be funny, no hes telling the truth.

Long story short the Hammer is probably the most out dated weapon in gw2. It was a unique weapon at one point, but now all the other classes are oozing cc while doing damage. Hammer has decent cc for the most part with laughable damage and defense

Just reroll to destroyer war and killshot the squizzies ^^

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

First of all, tell your commander that he suck. Hes is the 1 in charge, so he should know everything about builds, and fights, and combo,s and rotations and whats the current meta all about.
If you realy want to use hammer so badly with full power, go full zerk to begin with (those 3 trinkets that gives a bit of toughness wont make you tanky anyway)
Replace the omnonberry crap with power food. Put sigil of intelligence and sigil of impact on your hammer.
If you have full adrenaline, leap into target with earthshaker(f1), into backbreaker(skill5), into Fierceblow(skill2), into Staggering blow(skill4), then quickly into weapon swap F1 skill Arcing slice into skill 3 wirlwind attack true the enemy.
Or something. But yea, then again, enemys have stability like crazy + infinite long range bombs so this only works if the enemy is sleeping or something. Thats why Warlord said to you, hammer isnt a thing anymore. Hes saying this not that he want to troll you, or trying to be funny, no hes telling the truth.

You suck for so assuming things that aren’t true.
1. Our commander is great, I just keep missing the training sessions so he hasn’t been able to set me up with a proper build. I wanted to bring some knowledge to the table when he does so I asked my ‘fellow warriors’ for advice. Obviously that was a mistake.
2. Warlord was helpful I already thanked him, learn to read.
3. I’m the one entitled to act like a jerk from the replies this thread has gotten, not you.

If Anet doesn’t love us and we don’t love eachother, then we truly are a dead profession.

Ash.2059:

Cerby, don’t listen to them.

Whoever say Hammer Warrior is no longer in flavor, really can’t have spent much time at war.

Inspiration: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_PS_Frontliner

I’m starting to appreciate the sarcastic postings now. Make more of these.

Sure, your commander is so great that he send unexperienced worker warriors like you to the forums to ask about viable hammer builds that doesnt exist anymore…
So your commander wasnt able to set you up with a proper build cause you just keep missing the training sessions? Biggest excuse ever.
Atleast I tried to help you with your hammer combo

Ignore Hoaxintelligence, went from helpful to attacking.

I play with a group that does something similar to what your’s does, zergbusting and such.
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I used to run oldschool shoutheal, but it doesn’t work nearly as well as it does now. But I suggest that build, it’s much more selfish of a build compared to shoutheal, but it’ll keep you alive and doing damage.
I can elaborate later if you’d like, I don’t have the time right now.

Im not attacking man. Maybe I have should say it differently I agree, sorry that I disrespect your commander.
Im just very direct when it comes to sharing my opinion. No one is perfect. But its not that I flame him or something, I still want to help him if needed.
But in my experience, every guild I ever joined in WvW, had a commander that knews every roll for every proffession. The rotation. What builds and armor needs to be running by each proffession and all that.
And even if he didnt knew, there was always a kitty load of spreadsheets on the website or true ts links with the needed information. I could ask anything and I get the answer right away.
In my opinion I think these are the standard ability’s every commander should have.

Ok i zerg bust/pug zerg a lot. I use GS hammer full zerker armor/trinkets.

Switch out your heal for Defiant stance since The Last Stand trait extends the duration.

Switch out signet of fury for Frenzy.

Your sustain will be >defiant stance> EP/Berserker stance(BS)> passive EP

Rinse repeat.

I usually solo jump into enemy zerg and GS 3 into backline. GS 2 the backline and switch to hammer to Burst out of there towards my cmdr who at this time should be fully engaged. Most of the times I have only used of up Defiant stance in this initial strike.

When your cmdr calls for water fields or you see a water field when you guys are stacked. IF your away from cmdr, just use F1 burst on hammer to go on stack and blast the water.

Its totally Viable.

Also take Death from above trait as this comes very useful for survival and LULZ when you actually land a 6k crit on someone or many landing on them.

I would also pair up the food that gives + 40% endure regen, since you get vigor from allies and your stances, it will stack upto 90%(atm the max stack bonus is 100%)

Put sigil of energy on one of your weapons. I have mine on GS. You can put FIRE/Energy on GS for more burst and survival

you can put force and bloodlust on hammer. Since you have hoelbrak runes, try to zerg without brawler recovery(use DoTE 3% dmg per boon on enemy)

Your only enemy is excessive CC from enemy zerg(if you get caught in train without stab) and Immobilize but you have gs3/gs5(not reliable) and f1 burst on hammer to remove immobilize

KhainPride.3987:

Ok i zerg bust/pug zerg a lot. I use GS hammer full zerker armor/trinkets.

Switch out your heal for Defiant stance since The Last Stand trait extends the duration.

Switch out signet of fury for Frenzy.

Your sustain will be >defiant stance> EP/Berserker stance(BS)> passive EP

Rinse repeat.

I usually solo jump into enemy zerg and GS 3 into backline. GS 2 the backline and switch to hammer to Burst out of there towards my cmdr who at this time should be fully engaged. Most of the times I have only used of up Defiant stance in this initial strike.

When your cmdr calls for water fields or you see a water field when you guys are stacked. IF your away from cmdr, just use F1 burst on hammer to go on stack and blast the water.

Its totally Viable.

Also take Death from above trait as this comes very useful for survival and LULZ when you actually land a 6k crit on someone or many landing on them.

I would also pair up the food that gives + 40% endure regen, since you get vigor from allies and your stances, it will stack upto 90%(atm the max stack bonus is 100%)

Put sigil of energy on one of your weapons. I have mine on GS. You can put FIRE/Energy on GS for more burst and survival

you can put force and bloodlust on hammer. Since you have hoelbrak runes, try to zerg without brawler recovery(use DoTE 3% dmg per boon on enemy)

Your only enemy is excessive CC from enemy zerg(if you get caught in train without stab) and Immobilize but you have gs3/gs5(not reliable) and f1 burst on hammer to remove immobilize

SOunds like a 1 push build only good for blobbing and wont beat anyone good that can survive 1 push builds.

except im the only one who is full zerker ROFL

basically destroyer warrior, do you know what that is

I have never blobbed in my life, I solo roam and zerg bust with certain guilds. Im not in SBI following banok around or in NSP following OS around

If ima zerg i go join people who are looking for more numbers than ours.

I am planning to move to tier 1 now so i can full on blob zerg and press 1 for daiz for loot bags and achievement(250k)

Also warrior is the only class i play

im the same guy who is too lazy to change armor and trinkets when running full shouts sword/wh + hammer support build. Who needs thoughness and vitality when you can avoid CC