bleed/confusion warrior viable in pvp?

bleed/confusion warrior viable in pvp?

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Posted by: CMstorm.8679

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If you used distracting strikes with some points into precision using mace/sword and sword/mace and 1 physical utility, would it be viable in pvp? just curious

bleed/confusion warrior viable in pvp?

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Posted by: Larynx.2453

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No.

Condition warrior is perfectly viable, but confusion is an ineffective gimmick.

bleed/confusion warrior viable in pvp?

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Posted by: mini.6018

mini.6018

No.

Condition warrior is perfectly viable, but confusion is an ineffective gimmick.

Source for this statement?

Confu war and in this i mean mace/sword sword/shield is not your fotm bunker low skill cap longbow/x condition warrior , but rather an offensive kind.It excels in 1v1 rather in team zergplay but very effective on completely locking out of combat one player at choice.Also good at bursting down a bunker on cap in 1v1 scenario especially against ranged classes.

It, s my favorite build so far in terms of gameplay and fun.The bleeds are stronger than bow/builds and the cc is more punishing.The downside is you lack cool bunkering traits but definately does not lack of survavibility options.

If the op want the best optimized build for it in spvp can pm me saturday ingame or mail.But if a faceroll on keyboard build is expected out of this is going to be a huge dissapointment

bleed/confusion warrior viable in pvp?

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Posted by: Larynx.2453

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No.

Condition warrior is perfectly viable, but confusion is an ineffective gimmick.

Source for this statement?

Common sense and gameplay experience.

The traitline makes zero sense for a condition warrior build, and the weapon set required for this to work makes zero sense for a condition warrior build.

The only thing useful about the traitline is the randomly placed +condition duration per point, but 20 points is not worth the investment for what one gets out of it.

But if a faceroll on keyboard build is expected out of this is going to be a huge dissapointment

This is the justification every person who doesn’t have a “meta” build uses. “Oh that person was just using a faceroll fotm no skill build, but MY build requires skill.” No, you just have an ineffective build that is only good for hotjoin zerging.

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Posted by: CntrlAltDefeat.1465

CntrlAltDefeat.1465

Yes. It is devastating with superior runes of perplexity in WvW. Rabib set+perplex+sword+shield+launch+bulls strike. You can stack 8-9 bleeds+ 25 stacks of confusion so they’re doing 2.5k self inflicted damage per skill use. This stays in tact for 10 seconds before you need to even recycle skills.

However spvp doesn’t feature perplex runes, so using this is exclusive to WvW roaming encounters.

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Posted by: CntrlAltDefeat.1465

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Posted by: mini.6018

mini.6018

No.

Condition warrior is perfectly viable, but confusion is an ineffective gimmick.

Source for this statement?

Common sense and gameplay experience.

The traitline makes zero sense for a condition warrior build, and the weapon set required for this to work makes zero sense for a condition warrior build.

The only thing useful about the traitline is the randomly placed +condition duration per point, but 20 points is not worth the investment for what one gets out of it.

But if a faceroll on keyboard build is expected out of this is going to be a huge dissapointment

This is the justification every person who doesn’t have a “meta” build uses. “Oh that person was just using a faceroll fotm no skill build, but MY build requires skill.” No, you just have an ineffective build that is only good for hotjoin zerging.

I wad experimenting on condition builds long before the condition meta in gw2 even started letalone the warrior popularity .I can asure you against a good duelist thst knows how to block, reflect, blind, dodge the faceroll s/s longbow is not as effective as alternative builds.You are just shooting out blind statements about the traitline having no use in that tree.Let me school you a little bit about this aspect of warrior even if normal copy paste players like you will find it hard to assimilate.

The trait requires 20points in strenght wich means you have 2o% more condition duration wich means longer bleeds confusion and immobilize.It works great with +50% trait in precision allows you to have the beauty of70% longer bleeds on flurry almost doubeling its burst only from your traits..You have a minor trait that restores endurance when using a burst(useless in pvp right?oh wait you are used to facetank ).You have another trait that knockbacks people hence interrupting and aplying confusion that is great in maps with elevations above cap points (there are 2 atm, 3 if you count skyhammer).

What does this build lack in comparrison with longbow/ss? Lests see.Well lacks facetanking and burning ofcourse.The ridiculous heals consideting a bunk and the range (not that good dps).I can, t consider combu shot ranged and regardless we are talking about condition builds here hence useless weapon skill in our case.

What confu /bleed build gets over classic lb/ss? Well 1St of all heavy cc.Better condi duration, blocks and more evades.dont forget the confusion.In translation means by ccing a player that has your bleeds and torments up it cannot remove them resulting in taking more damage.If it does remove the conditions/stunbreaks confu takes over and the damage is remborsed.
The build is burstier than lb/ss condi.You have more power hence still more dps.200 power is not to be underestimated and you can gain up to 400 with the correct spec for this build.
1v1 destroyes bunker guards making it viable on caps already defended by a bunker,and bunker lb/ss warriors(idk why i said that since thay can’t bunker a point for kitten anyway).

I will not go into more details for now but as tldr for you, you have (imo) neither experience orcommon sense as you are trying to imply.Not all builds are the meta and never will be but just claiming unviability because"strenght tree is for power "is not acceptable as a response.It does just not make sense to yiu because you just expect for ppl killing themselves with confusion like the wvwers do.

Haha and a big+1 for calling it good for spvp zerging when in fact ss/lb is the one for it :d.Even after i pointed out clearly that is a build that shines at most in 1v1S or smaller scale than full team. Cute try <3

For OP yes it is viable as burst and targeted control where normal dps would just not cut it.While a bunk guard could sometimes make a point uncapturable against even 2/3 players, this build will succeed 90% and 100% in 2V1.Yes it has shortcommings like lack of aoe but that is what you get for specialized builds.

(edited by mini.6018)

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Posted by: CMstorm.8679

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Posted by: CMstorm.8679

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRAse5cjgOxu1OGPMxBEkirILMPMCxjIOKSCAE-TwAgyCmIKSRkjITRyvsfNCY5xuj5CA

Here is what Im aiming for: trying to get as long of a condition duration as I can, include a few stuns/interrupts here and there and time them right to land confusion.
Cuz after watching that vid, I wanna try it out in Pvp and see how effective it is, though It will be substantially less because everything is OP in Pve. But it looks fun