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Posted by: Gadrak.6851

Gadrak.6851

no im not one of those newbs who juts got destroyed by HBs and cames here to QQ about it.

im here because this skill is actually in a very bad spot.

it insanely effective against low skill players,hundred blades it’s right now a noob destroyer skill,charge frenzy hundred blades=dead,when i first started to play a warrior,i was using this combo quite often,and i tought that it was ridicolously overpowered.

then i reached rank 30,and started to play in tournaments,and well let’s just say it didnt go that well.

as long someone has a stun breaker or knows how to jump away,interrupt or simply dodge HB,the ability loses it’s effectiveness quite badly,making impossible to land the full combo even with frenzy .

wich makes me sad,because the GS is my favourite weapon to use,i like the high mobility and burst damage,but when i play against semi skilled opponents my third ability is completely useless.

so what we have here is an ability wich requires 0 skill to use,and at the same time has such poor sinergy with the high mobility that the GS offers,it’s a Lose/Lose situation if you ask me

i suggest you take a look at this video

if you saw the whole video,this guy suggested to halve the damage of hundred blades,but allow the warrior to move while the ability is on.

my personal suggestion is allowing HB to deal full damage if you dont move during the cast animation(to avoid to kill the GS damage in PVE)or even better double the damage of the ability against mobs(and halve the damage of course),but if you start moving during the channel the damage gets halved.

personally every change is welcome,i just want a rework for this ability badly.

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Posted by: Schwahrheit.4203

Schwahrheit.4203

So… make HB deal less damage while moving than auto attacks while moving?

Seriously its a bad suggestion. How about leave HB as is and rework adrenaline just so people actually use adrenaline skills to land HB?

Since people are negative about nerfs, how about we buff to balance then?

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Posted by: Asumita.2174

Asumita.2174

how about making the other weapon choices have better weapon skills so we stop seeing GS on every warrior I come across.

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Posted by: Karaad.7930

Karaad.7930

There is no need to ‘rework’ a perfect skill and I quote you:

as long someone has a stun breaker or knows how to jump away,interrupt or simply dodge HB,the ability loses it’s effectiveness quite badly,making impossible to land the full combo even with frenzy .

Nuff said. Tired of seeing these threads.

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Posted by: TeamBattleAxe.3901

TeamBattleAxe.3901

Hundred Blades isn’t an inherently bad skill. It has a wide hit arc and short cool-down. Obviously, it hits like a truck if someone’s dumb enough to sit around and let you finish the whole combo on them. But it still does decent damage even if you only get a couple of hits in before canceling out of it, plus you get the added benefit of almost guaranteeing your opponent will burn a dodge or breaker to get out of it. I tend to use it as more of a set-up skill than a finisher.

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Posted by: Trump.9803

Trump.9803

I never understood why HB was not in the actual Burst skill slot. That would seem logical.

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Posted by: Brutalistik.6473

Brutalistik.6473

Warriors with 100blades should be the least of your problem. Look at all the other professions that can do much better than a warrior 100blades combo. Warrior 100blades combo comes with a sacrifice which is the frenzy skill. When warriors uses that abiltiy they take 50% more damage which means you can burst them down quicker than they burst you down if you avoid the attack. You can always countered it by immobilizing them or stunning them if they’re not traited for last stand or have balance stance skill.

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

I don’t get Warriors using HB outside of PvE.

It is just sooo easy to avoid and counter.

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: Evalia.7103

Evalia.7103

I have a solid intuition(up to a point I can guess where a thief is when he cloaks himself with ability on range) and I can really understand that problem.
Against new players, or players that just will never learn(such exist too), you sometimes can just pop frenzy and use it without any disables… makes me want to cry sometimes.
However you say it becomes completely useless in highranked sPvP.
How true could be that if in high-skilled situation it becomes a trap-spell instead? If you got them trapped in some kind of control(I’m using lyssa runes and I like to pop SoR up together with frenzy – it gives me stability(helps with finishing and ensuring Hundred Blades and other juicy boons(protection,aegis,regeneration more than nullifies frenzy negative effect), I’d like to hear why not to use them, or which ones would be great instead)
And leg specialist is also juicy. With GS trait’s(assuming 20 in offense only) bladetrail is 2.4 seconds immobilize(Frenzy+HB here someone) if used at the right moment… and not dodged, of course.
Not to mention you could add some control from your other weapon set! I currently can’t choose where I should use axe for more damage or sword for more mobility and flurry(amazing immobilize duration, almost impossible to dodge if you are in melee – perfect opener for HB)
Although I’m mainly playing WvW and PvE :P

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Posted by: Gadrak.6851

Gadrak.6851

Warriors with 100blades should be the least of your problem. Look at all the other professions that can do much better than a warrior 100blades combo. Warrior 100blades combo comes with a sacrifice which is the frenzy skill. When warriors uses that abiltiy they take 50% more damage which means you can burst them down quicker than they burst you down if you avoid the attack. You can always countered it by immobilizing them or stunning them if they’re not traited for last stand or have balance stance skill.

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im a warrior,and im not whining about hundred blades being overpowered,did you even read the thread?

im claiming that this skill ha no place in medium high level pvp,because it’s so freaking easy to dodge,and ill rather have it to be more mobile,with little less damage,then just a useless button in my bar

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Posted by: Rayya.2591

Rayya.2591

mobile Hb would be overpowered
that’s the ideea a-net want to implement with all the classes
reward you for good skill timing – if you make mobile HB everybody can land it

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Posted by: Recently.1043

Recently.1043

Mobile 100b is bad idea, would look silly.

It just needs to be brought in line with similar abilities (pistol whip and blurred frenzy)
Shorten the channel duration/animation duration (which would lower the damage) and add a defensive effect during the channel. Yea sounds boring to make the skill similar, but its the most logical step if they change it.

Call me when this game gets fixed…. if it ever does….

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Posted by: Novalight.7568

Novalight.7568

Yeh if you lower the damage, then the skill become pretty useless, mobile or not, becomes similar to autoattack dmg, only better for on-hit procs perhaps, since it has many hits.

I’d like to see some skill that gives protection or transfer boons from enemy or conditions to enemy, that’d be sweet….“bunker buster”: transfer all enemy boons to yourself (evil laugh)

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Posted by: Brutalistik.6473

Brutalistik.6473

Warriors with 100blades should be the least of your problem. Look at all the other professions that can do much better than a warrior 100blades combo. Warrior 100blades combo comes with a sacrifice which is the frenzy skill. When warriors uses that abiltiy they take 50% more damage which means you can burst them down quicker than they burst you down if you avoid the attack. You can always countered it by immobilizing them or stunning them if they’re not traited for last stand or have balance stance skill.

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im a warrior,and im not whining about hundred blades being overpowered,did you even read the thread?

im claiming that this skill ha no place in medium high level pvp,because it’s so freaking easy to dodge,and ill rather have it to be more mobile,with little less damage,then just a useless button in my bar

There are a lot of professions weapon skills similar to 100blades that has no place in Tpvp if that’s what you’re calling high level pvp. However it serves a purpose if your teammates or yourself have control skills to make 100blades connect.

It might not connect to mesmers and thieves profession due to their teleport stun break moves which I think is a bullcrap a mechanic, but that’s what Anet wanted for those two professions to add more survivability.

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Posted by: Doctor Orderly MD PhD DDS.7625

Doctor Orderly MD PhD DDS.7625

If you hate the fact that your GS 2 is useless in tpvp, then maybe try another weapon…? Oh right you wont, because GS is still the best choice.

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Posted by: Crossaber.8934

Crossaber.8934

Many people use GS due to the good looking of greatsword rather than 100B, i am a hardcore GS fan in any MMO, no matter GS is the most viable or the least viable choice of warrior i am still 100% going GS.

Anyway, i would like to see a change of 100B, make it into 2 skills, “100 blade” and “Last Strike”. Where 100 blade is the current channeling 8x hit weak slashes, while upon activate, the skill “Last Strike”(the last hit of current 100B) will replace “100 blade”, it is ups to you to choose when to launch the final hit, earlier or after all 8 hit landed. If you are in a hurry, you can just double click 2 to have the 1 hit of 100 blade and the last strike to end your 100 blade directly or if situation is allowed, land all hits. There will be a draw back is if you failed to launch “Last Strike” during the 8 hits channeling time window, you will lose the chance to use it. Therefore 100B will become more usable but require some more skill to output the highest damage.

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Posted by: Gadrak.6851

Gadrak.6851

If you hate the fact that your GS 2 is useless in tpvp, then maybe try another weapon…? Oh right you wont, because GS is still the best choice.

no is not the best choice

if you want go burst dps,the axe/mace combination is insanely better for pvp

even the hammer if combined with a gap closing weapon like the sword,can dish out an insane amount of damage followed by a chain of CC

or even better the axe shield combo,considering how much damage eviscerate does

Greatsword has mobility followed by unreliable burst damage,the greatsword lacks sustained damage badly,and the only 2 classes who can deal burst damage and get away with it are the thieves and the mesmer,because they dont rely on a single ability that gets countered by a stun breaker or a dodge.

in Spvp it’s usable,but in tournament Tpvp and in WvW is not.

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Posted by: BlueprintLFE.2358

BlueprintLFE.2358

If you hate the fact that your GS 2 is useless in tpvp, then maybe try another weapon…? Oh right you wont, because GS is still the best choice.

no is not the best choice

if you want go burst dps,the axe/mace combination is insanely better for pvp

even the hammer if combined with a gap closing weapon like the sword,can dish out an insane amount of damage followed by a chain of CC

or even better the axe shield combo,considering how much damage eviscerate does

Greatsword has mobility followed by unreliable burst damage,the greatsword lacks sustained damage badly,and the only 2 classes who can deal burst damage and get away with it are the thieves and the mesmer,because they dont rely on a single ability that gets countered by a stun breaker or a dodge.

in Spvp it’s usable,but in tournament Tpvp and in WvW is not.

I use 100B in tounraments Daily, and I wouldn’t change a kitten thing about it. If you change this skill, there goes our 1 good tourney spec. This skill is fine and will still provide amazing results, if you don’t immediately run in and use it on the first person you see, without watching for stunbreakers or dodges first. You have to set up a 100b, draw out the stun breakers if possible, or even better, completely blindside the enemy, they won’t be able to react in timeof done right. Not to mention almost all of our weapons have a cripple so you can set it up really nicely with leg specialist. This skill does exactly what it is supposed to do, which is kill and kill quickly, it just takes some skill to set up, not brainless button mashing (2222222 thief anyone?) to kill.

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Posted by: Jezath.7395

Jezath.7395

how about making the other weapon choices have better weapon skills so we stop seeing GS on every warrior I come across.

I use Axe/Sword/Longbow

I have always used it shying away from GS as i like to play fringe avant gaurde build charcters axe main and swrd off hand its really fun and good in both pve and pvp

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