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Posted by: abaddon.3290

abaddon.3290

using maceshield bow i feel like im hitting punching bags. they never die and if they are any good they kill me everytime. i can avoid their entire rotation and theyll have traps back up before i can get them to half health and dont even get me started on the healing.so can i get any tips to counter them? should i be running a power build or something?

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Posted by: Ubik.8315

Ubik.8315

For a game where you might have to fight DH regularly, then unblockable gunflame power build is very effective. Typically condis are pretty ineffective vs DH and Scrapper as they have good condi clear and without taking high spike damage they also have good sustain.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

Of the two, I find DH to be more of a challenge than Scrapper (I assume that’s what you’re talking about, rather than base guard and engi).

I typically run melee, which would have me (ideally) running gs/a+sh along with Might Signet. The trick there is setting them up for a big bursts while Unblockable, and ideally with Resistance up so no blinds or snares to interfere with the bursts. Stability’s not a bad idea either. DH especially doesn’t have a large health pool, so you can sometimes down them with a big enough burst rotation.

That said, you’re pretty boned if you can’t surprise the DH enough to down him and he’s got a longbow and traps, because a lot of your stuff will be on cooldown. That’s where a ranged weapon comes in handy.

I find ranged weapons close to useless against a hammer scrapper, whereas I’ve had moderate success using a power bow or rifle against a DH, but it depends on the DH and build.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

From my experience DH are easy to kill, i went from a 90% loss ratio against them to a 65% win ratio. As far as scrapper are concerned, you shouldn’t lose against one. Since the season started , i have yet to lose against a scrapper in 1 vs 1. Killing one is another story, but you should be able to drag the fight.

And i use power warrior btw…

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Posted by: abaddon.3290

abaddon.3290

For a game where you might have to fight DH regularly, then unblockable gunflame power build is very effective. Typically condis are pretty ineffective vs DH and Scrapper as they have good condi clear and without taking high spike damage they also have good sustain.

do you have a link to it? i dont see it on metabattle.

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Posted by: no sky in hell.9258

no sky in hell.9258

For a game where you might have to fight DH regularly, then unblockable gunflame power build is very effective. Typically condis are pretty ineffective vs DH and Scrapper as they have good condi clear and without taking high spike damage they also have good sustain.

do you have a link to it? i dont see it on metabattle.

Think he ment this build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJAURjMdQfH2FC2dAnIWKCMl8W0LLYMAeABg3jbyd6C-TVSBABbcIAu4BAQz+DUq+jZKBvS5He6C04IAAwFAIAACwNvZ28mBG6QH6QH6Qbn7co7co7sUABu1C-w

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

That is one YOLO build! I’ve been running full zerk for years, but I don’t think I’d be willing to take that beast out roaming. I might bring it out in a larger fight though, and certainly in a duel.

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Posted by: Ubik.8315

Ubik.8315

I’ve been running this melee build for a while actually, it’s pretty fun, especially vs revs and guards. (Nothing like a rev finding out their shield 5 autoproc does nothing. XD)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR5enMdAVhgdhA2dAEliFlA7ILEA+dv52hbyFZDMCuAA-TpBCABPt/gDXAAAOIAQcEAcvMADPAAA

Sometimes I play different variations with a rifle or with discipline instead of arms, different rune or ammy, etc. But in general, power warrior does well vs guard and scrapper.