Guild Wars 2

is there any build that can actualy if good played kill d/d ele mesmers or thiefs ?

For a hammer it’s usually 0/10/30/0/30, although the build I put out last month is still viable if you’re Schmidt hot at stun locking (in spvp), and that’s 30/10/0/0/30 soldiers and mace main hand.

Defence traits are much more forgiving though

To the poster above, you’ll need 30 in discipline to properly utilise burst.

mace/shield and hammer
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNApeSjcO1wFPuQMRCA0jvyirTBlUFsLpYsyA-ToAg0CvIqRVjrGTNyas1MQYJC here ya go this build will require some skill, and GOOD timing. Timing is the key of this build, because u DO NOT want to waste your stuns too early, ESPECIALLY the f1! or mess up the weapon rotation.
some tips: if a target pops stability, stray if you can, or just whack em a few times with mace or try to wait it out.
Use pommel bash or shield bash to see if they have another stunbreaker or something.

And Id recommend popping your signet of rage around 75% hp.
Step #1: if you notice you’re below 50% hp, pop endure pain.
Step #2: Land your beautiful Skull Crack.
Step #3: Pop frenzy RIGHT AFTER skull crack and swap to hammer.
Step #4: Auto1=auto-win. auto-win auto-win auto-win XD (work out timing vs eles and mesmers. practice with some friends first, thieves are trickier)

0/10/30/0/30 for Hammer like Phaeton said. I’ve been running with Sw/Sh for the off-set.