Guild Wars 2

hello fellow warrior wvw solo roamers !

errrr how do you deal with druids in wvw while solo roaming ?

please advise !

- find cover immediately ? but it seems like open field everywhere ?
- kill the pet quickly ?
- don’t get shot by the arrows ?
- block with mace 2, shield 5 to get closer ?
- hide behind wall and jump the druid ?

thanks !

I don’t want to brag but Druids/Rangers are free kill for me. If you are having a hard time when they kite you, use a rifle. im a rank 145 atm, but ive killed 88 Platinum Druids, 18 Mithril, 6 Diamond Ranks, all with screenshot, 1 on 1. I’m a solo roamer.

Evade LB2, or Block it with Reflect Missile.
Ignore Pet
Get closer this is common sense if you are a melee
Don’t use mace if you are a Power Build
Im not sure what you mean by “Hide”, never heard that term before with warriors.

If they run, which is what they usually do, run and gun – use Gun Flame.

I dunno, if the druid is skilled, I think they’re a real threat when they run zerk lb/staff, and they should be able to handle a gunflame berserker too. The blinds, stealth, movement, sustain, and damage are pretty great, and they should be able to deny most of the opportunities to gunflame too.

A standard tanky druid that lets his pet do all the work is another story. With those, they don’t need to be especially competent, but they have the ability to escape and reset if they need to. Our bursts aren’t strong enough to prevent them from escaping when they’re being outplayed, so the only way you’ll reliably kill them is if they’re too bad to know when to bail or how to maintain their sustain.

To the OP, I’d say use terrain as much as you can. It’ll hugely negate the berserker-geared druid, and may lure them into close range. You can and should do the same with a tankier druid, but the problem there is the pet is doing most of the work so terrain is more for gimping the pet AI because they can’t jump.

For tanky druids, try to pay attention to what the pet is doing. You can usually avoid their attacks if you’re doing that, and that will help cut their damage down. Also be sure to keep Adrenal Health up, even if that means dumping a burst on the pet and not the druid.

Fortunately, most of the people running druids in wvw aren’t especially good. So your chance of beating them is pretty good if you can keep close, reflect their lb2, and otherwise keep them pressured.

XerMeLL,
thanks for sharing !
could you share the build you use to destroy all those druids ?
thanks again !

Choppy,
thanks for the tips !

This is just from my experience running into the tankier ones all day that run on staff, it’s usually a stalemate, they don’t have enough dmg to kill me even though I’m full zerk and I can’t kill them because they reset too much. The only small window I usually have, and this depends on the situation on what CDs they have and if I get lucky, when they pop that smoke field with they’re pet, I pop berserker Stance and go for a nontargeted head butt and go all out on my gs axe burst combo. But like i said, depends how the fight goes, sometimes when I risk that it’s a gamble for me to mess up and they kill me or I just don’t land it, or they still can manage to get away.

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This is just from my experience running into the tankier ones all day that run on staff, it’s usually a stalemate, they don’t have enough dmg to kill me even though I’m full zerk and I can’t kill them because they reset too much. The only small window I usually have, and this depends on the situation on what CDs they have and if I get lucky, when they pop that smoke field with they’re pet, I pop berserker Stance and go for a nontargeted head butt and go all out on my gs axe burst combo. But like i said, depends how the fight goes, sometimes when I risk that it’s a gamble for me to mess up and they kill me or I just don’t land it, or they still can manage to get away.

That’s where a well played druid in berserker gear is really deadly. A smart one blasts the smoke field to gain the stealth, repositions, taunts (trouble only if you don’t have stab or a stun break), then does the standard lb burst.

A smart lb/staff druid will try to keep distance on you, especially if you’re melee. If you’re running range (e.g. gunflame), then he just needs to keep his pet between you and him as much as possible, and then use stealth, blind, lb4, etc. to shut down volley, etc.

Choppy.4183:

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This is just from my experience running into the tankier ones all day that run on staff, it’s usually a stalemate, they don’t have enough dmg to kill me even though I’m full zerk and I can’t kill them because they reset too much. The only small window I usually have, and this depends on the situation on what CDs they have and if I get lucky, when they pop that smoke field with they’re pet, I pop berserker Stance and go for a nontargeted head butt and go all out on my gs axe burst combo. But like i said, depends how the fight goes, sometimes when I risk that it’s a gamble for me to mess up and they kill me or I just don’t land it, or they still can manage to get away.

That’s where a well played druid in berserker gear is really deadly. A smart one blasts the smoke field to gain the stealth, repositions, taunts (trouble only if you don’t have stab or a stun break), then does the standard lb burst.

A smart lb/staff druid will try to keep distance on you, especially if you’re melee. If you’re running range (e.g. gunflame), then he just needs to keep his pet between you and him as much as possible, and then use stealth, blind, lb4, etc. to shut down volley, etc.

aaaaaaah i may have ran into such druid as described.

how to deal with them effectively ah ?

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

aaaaaaah i may have ran into such druid as described.

how to deal with them effectively ah ?

Use terrain or turn it into a group fight. He’ll have fewer tools against multiple opponents.

I’m not going to say that Rangers are broken, but the can be a fairly hard counter against a warrior. They have plenty of ways to keep the distance, and of course they have that annoying ancient seeds trait and they can exploit the stuck bug. I have not fount a true way to reliably counter them. Shield block at the right time, helps (if traited for shield mastery) but that’s just one thing out of many others you need to do right.

I have found that Hybrid warrior manages a bit better against them because they don’t have enough condi cleanse to deal with everything you are dishing out as long as you can land your hits.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

hello fellow warrior wvw solo roamers !

errrr how do you deal with druids in wvw while solo roaming ?

please advise !

- find cover immediately ? but it seems like open field everywhere ?
- kill the pet quickly ?
- don’t get shot by the arrows ?
- block with mace 2, shield 5 to get closer ?
- hide behind wall and jump the druid ?

thanks !

I usually go for the druid directly first. Close the gap to melee range (since i only run melee) first. Then after i do that i test his healing power. If he has too much heal/sustain/tank/kite ill start proc’ing adrenal off of his pet and even go and kill his pet first if the situation permits it. If he’s full tank and lesser damage generally i go straight for the pets first….then try to get him once both r down. Then is just devolves into a game of whack a mole where im just hacking at him with no real gameplan other than to stay ontop and keep hitting him till i catchup to his sustain. If he does a ton of damage though….pretty much always stay ontop of him in some form or another and try to you kno, hit him more than he hits me.

Gs+axe/shield. shield 5 with reflect when he goes ham with his bow (usually he lights himself up red or if he doesn’t go red he will use his high damage attacks once ive bridged half the distance between us). Try to land shield bash or some other interrupt on him at any time…no point saving them to block/interrupt his heals since he’ll be cloaked and/or jumping away from my range when he needs to heal anyways. Just stay ontop of him generally, when he pulls out his gs or melee weapon (if he has 1) its much easier to read him. With the gs, even though ive never played ranger, the initial moves consist of blocks and high damage windup type attacks….so generally i just kite/evade/block his first melee moves then i go ham on him with my own melee moves. Basically the sustain/protection spam druids are the problem children….if ur not running condi anyways. Ur kinda screwed fighting 2 rangers at the same time if they are coming at u from different sides with ranged attacks…so generally running and trying to draw them to an area where u can limit their los and mobility and bridge the gap is a good idea.

But ya…its basically just whack them till they die. Not really much else u can do to stop their heals/sustain.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

XerMeLL,
thanks for sharing !
could you share the build you use to destroy all those druids ?
thanks again !

Twilight/Rifle

Berserker – Smash Brawler + Blood Reaction + Bloody Roar
Discipline – Warrior’s Sprint + Brawler’s Recovery + Burst Mastery
Defense – Shield Master/Dodge March + Defy Pain + Cleansing Ire

Healing Signet, Berserker Stance, Endure Pain, Signet Fury, Signet Rage

Pretty much meta traits, you can replace Signet Fury and Rage with your preferences.

I usually use rage at start of the fight and depending on necessity i use signet fury for instant adrenaline to surprise people with burst. I’m no expert as most people are. Take them advises first before mine.

Depends on your own build as well as the type of druid you end up fighting but a few points apply to most situations:

Play around their pet.
-Don’t position yourself between a kiting druid and his Bristleback.
-Make sure to dodge the burst of his Smokescale.
-Use them (the pets) to proc your Adrenal Health and Cleansing Ire reliably if you find yourself having a lot of trouble getting bursts off on the druid himself.

-Try to keep them pressured enough to force them out of their comfort zone. This either means staying on top of them in melee, proper rifle pressure or condition pressure with longbow.
-Taking taking a few steps back to regenerate with Adrenal Heal plus Healing Signet does not mean you are running away. Actually not chasing them in some situations takes people by surprise, also.

-Try not to spend any long cooldowns if any damage done can be easily negated by their avatar form.
-Know your enemy and know when to either condition spam or CC lock him down.

Hi, Druid player here. Not sure what build you are playing, but the meta berserker build with axe-shield+GS is my greatest fear in WvW. I feel that this match is highly favored for the berserker. It may better for the druid if he’s using LB( i don’t use it).

extra tip, unless its a condi druid(very rare and you can tell from food) change your GM defence trait to either Last stand or RR and its almost a sure win.

Druïds are op atm. Thats the only thing you need to know. When you win from a druïd with your war that means that the druïd was not skilledfull enough, or hé Just made to many minor mistakes.

i dont have any trouble dealing damage or taking damage vs druids.. but the buggers always run off with their super distance leaps.

Unless you are on a incredibly bad build, not good at warrior, that Warrior should

A. Beat a druid.
B. Get a druid low in which case he runs away.
C. Have a 5-10 minute long duel in which case you can beat the druid.

Let me tell you a story. I had somone ask me for a build. I gave them a mace shield build and told them to to Shield mastery.

Person wisper me days later saying they have problems with rangers. Builds wont fix bad players. Get better at the game so you can use the tools warrior has to defeat people.

Warlord.9074:

Unless you are on a incredibly bad build, not good at warrior, that Warrior should

A. Beat a druid.
B. Get a druid low in which case he runs away.
C. Have a 5-10 minute long duel in which case you can beat the druid.

Which build would you use against a zerk or zealots gear lb/s druid in wvw?

Warlord.9074:

Unless you are on a incredibly bad build, not good at warrior, that Warrior should

A. Beat a druid.
B. Get a druid low in which case he runs away.
C. Have a 5-10 minute long duel in which case you can beat the druid.

I guess you never dueled a decent druid before

Condi, high sustain. All druid will do is kite and run. Dump a bunch of condi on them watch them run and die. If they try to heal interupt them and apply poison chain stun them while they are in astral. GG. They put signet of stone up doesn’t matter condi eat through it.

You could alos try your power defender, RR build , But remeber I told you 10minute duel. Thats one will no one will win. But if you are good and lucky with interrupting their heals than thats a duel you could win. Use Doom sigil on your defender RR setup.

Like I said you shouldn’t lose to a ranger, but that doesn’t necessarily mean u will kill one or he will kill you.

Warrior sustain is pretty good right now, If you do all things that give u sustain your not going to die to a tanky druid that doenst do a lot of damage besides pet damage.

PVP maybe differn’t than WvW. Most the time when I am fighitng rangers even good ones, you get them low and then they go in panic mode. Once the ranger goes in panic mode they wisp away, basically disengaging from the fight. At that point if you want you can just turn and run and the fight is over you are out of combat.

Thats when u later are roaming with a buddy u see the ranger and gank him for running a wack build that he can’t kill anyone on fast but bads. Then you throw siege on him and slash laugh, and make him rage quit and delete his ranger becasue its a bad class.

I’m pretty sure the build I was talking about would wreck the build you’re talking about. You’d largely be forced to waste your burst on the pet to maintain AH because you’d be out-kited, and that means your damage output would be low too.

On the druid’s side, they have plenty of healing and condi removal, and the damage is good too. Honestly, I’m pretty sure you’d be a sitting duck in wvw because the ranger would have lots of room to keep you at bay.

Pvp is different because there the druid is compelled to fight you in a relatively confined space. That isn’t the case in wvw.

Choppy.4183:

I’m pretty sure the build I was talking about would wreck the build you’re talking about. You’d largely be forced to waste your burst on the pet to maintain AH because you’d be out-kited, and that means your damage output would be low too.

On the druid’s side, they have plenty of healing and condi removal, and the damage is good too. Honestly, I’m pretty sure you’d be a sitting duck in wvw because the ranger would have lots of room to keep you at bay.

Pvp is different because there the druid is compelled to fight you in a relatively confined space. That isn’t the case in wvw.

I was intentionally very vague on what builds I was talking about. You can speculate on which build I am talking about and draw up the worst case scenario, combine it with the worst possible player all you want in order to draw your predefined opinionated conclusions.

I’ll just say one thing. Choppy If you can’t beat a ranger then you are a bad warrior. Oh and I didn’t talk about A build I referred to 2 builds.

Warlord.9074:

I was intentionally very vague on what builds I was talking about. You can speculate on which build I am talking about and draw up the worst case scenario, combine it with the worst possible player all you want in order to draw your predefined opinionated conclusions.

I’ll just say one thing. Choppy If you can’t beat a ranger then you are a bad warrior. Oh and I didn’t talk about A build I referred to 2 builds.

Eh, I made some assumptions based on what’s current for high sustain warrior condi builds, and that you mentioned a mace build earlier.

I also didn’t say I can’t beat a druid. The open question is whether or not the druids we’re beating are bad as others have mentioned. You’ve claimed a warrior should beat a druid every time, otherwise the warrior is bad.

I don’t run a druid, but here’s something I’ve put together based on what I’ve seen some roamers running lately. I could be wrong on some of the selections, but it looks pretty solid to me. It should also have the build advantage on every version of a condi or power RR warrior I can think of. Feel free to show otherwise….

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATWnUqA9Ci1CCusActgl9AD+tWX/rL3uAwZ7JOUuWel8s0A-TVyHABepLY5HAgyHBAd2foHlf6p+DTKBl+CAAwhAgUABOGA-w

EDIT: I’m also more than happy to try to arrange a duel with some competent druids I know, if they’re up for it, or to recruit via the ranger forums to test this out. We can record the results and post here.

Which server are you on?

I don’t play a druid also. I play a warrior on maguuma.

Druid does have condi cleanse, but I think curing ! condi with a shout is pretty bad and thats why Warriors don’t run it, and warriors can cure 2 with shake it off and passive shake it off. So Warrior Shout condi is better than a rangers comparativly. If it was so great warriors would still run them.

The only really good condi clear that the ranger has is entering celestial avatar which is a condi wipe. Or if they trait for survival skills which I think cures 2 condis when they use a survival skill which is better condi cleanse than that shout build.

I feel OK about releasing my secret condi build now to the public now that it has been nerfed. But this build pretty much ate even good druids for breakfast. I am currently looking at changing the runes.

So basically I used the sword F1 skill to Block Projectiles and Keep up active healing. Then I would Rotate Shield block and mace Block in with Flaming Flury for more projectile hate.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQRAsf5enMdAVhgdhAmhAElilqA7d0uajtIFgGQAQpHE7yBA-TFjAQBhRpH12kittenD6wBBAdmg2wRA4CKBBwDAwfaF42JAAg6Cco6PBAQAmZZWmlZwQH6QH6QHa7cmDdmDNpAubaE-w

The build I posted had celestial avatar in addition to the Trooper Runes and a cleansing sigil (couldn’t think of a better sigil for it, but whatevs).

But the chief advantage I see of the build I posted over the one you posted is that you’ll rarely be able to deliver any of your damage. It has four stun breaks, can remove immob, it has plenty of stealth (lb 3, celestial shadow, and blasting the smokefield), and plenty of movement (perma swiftness, access to superspeed, ancestral grace). So it should keep you forever trying to keep up, it can slip away whenever you do catch up, and it can easily purge any condis+heal up anytime you do manage to land something.

But you won’t be able to mitigate the druid’s damage for long, and you won’t be able to get away if you try to run.

So what am I missing? How is the druid build not stronger than the warrior build you posted (both in a fight, and as a roamer generally)? Again, a good warrior running your build should win against a bad druid running the build I posted, but that’s not really the point.

Because Perplexity was OP. That rune literally carried. They can break the stun and evade back wards while they got 12 stacks of confusion on them and like 5 other condis from skull grider + poisen. and melt. Didin’t matter. Perplexity was sooooooo Strong. You have no idea how broken it was.

The thing with my build is that you could kill someone fast. Before they new it they were dead. And if they didn’t die they would go into full panic mode and blow all Cool downs to try and live. That means blow every shout and stun break bro before the fight even starts.

Now I have to find a new rune or figure out a way to abuse the changes with what I got.

perplexity with Skull grider and the 4 interupts my build had made it broken as f.

Warlord.9074:

Because Perplexity was OP. That rune literally carried. They can break the stun and evade back wards while they got 12 stacks of confusion on them and like 5 other condis from skull grider + poisen. and melt. Didin’t matter. Perplexity was sooooooo Strong. You have no idea how broken it was.

The thing with my build is that you could kill someone fast. Before they new it they were dead. And if they didn’t die they would go into full panic mode and blow all Cool downs to try and live. That means blow every shout and stun break bro before the fight even starts.

Now I have to find a new rune or figure out a way to abuse the changes with what I got.

perplexity with Skull grider and the 4 interupts my build had made it broken as f.

That’s the thing though, even assuming you manage to get close enough to hit them with Skull Grinder/Perplex, they can break stun and purge all of your conditions by going celestial avatar. I don’t even know if going avatar counts as a skill activation in regards to confusion.

But I totally get how the element of surprise would do them in. It’d be impossible for someone to know what they were up against if they suddenly got hit with that… one wrong move, and they’d be dead fast. But, otherwise, I think you’d be boned.

It’s true though, you took a real hit with that perplexity change, and it’s good to see you recognized it was OP. I run power warrior most of the time and, I’m not gonna lie, I’m glad to see it go. I’m also glad that Guard! took a nerf for the rangers because that was also cramping my style.

I have been looking this thread for the past days and thought to pitch in.
As both druid and warrior WvW roaming player, i must stay honest from the begin:
You will not kill a good druid with a good build and will mostly likely lose the fight or it will get reseted.

Now that we took that truth off our way, i can give some tips on this battle, but i guess most of them already got covered above.

1- Use a ranged weapon or you’ll get endless kited. Mace #2/Shield #5 are not enough to hold your own and close the gap.

2- If you have some nice AoE damage, try to hit the pet at same time, most of times, whenever you can. If you notice the druid is running a super tanky build which doesn’t harm you at all, then get pet’s target and kill it, forget about the druid at first.

3- When they enter in Celestial Avatar and start to channel, either the heal or the immobilize skill, stun/daze them! That is the moment they are most vulnerable and are using their ultimate resources. That is your opening!

4- Never fight on druid’s terms. If he swap to bristleback and keep using it and kiting around the pet so you get hit by every single F2 he uses from time to time, just walk away or find cover and let him come at you.

I guess that is the best you can do when fighting a druid.

Warlord.9074:

Condi, high sustain. All druid will do is kite and run. Dump a bunch of condi on them watch them run and die. If they try to heal interupt them and apply poison chain stun them while they are in astral. GG. They put signet of stone up doesn’t matter condi eat through it.

You could alos try your power defender, RR build , But remeber I told you 10minute duel. Thats one will no one will win. But if you are good and lucky with interrupting their heals than thats a duel you could win. Use Doom sigil on your defender RR setup.

Like I said you shouldn’t lose to a ranger, but that doesn’t necessarily mean u will kill one or he will kill you.

Warrior sustain is pretty good right now, If you do all things that give u sustain your not going to die to a tanky druid that doenst do a lot of damage besides pet damage.

PVP maybe differn’t than WvW. Most the time when I am fighitng rangers even good ones, you get them low and then they go in panic mode. Once the ranger goes in panic mode they wisp away, basically disengaging from the fight. At that point if you want you can just turn and run and the fight is over you are out of combat.

Thats when u later are roaming with a buddy u see the ranger and gank him for running a wack build that he can’t kill anyone on fast but bads. Then you throw siege on him and slash laugh, and make him rage quit and delete his ranger becasue its a bad class.

angry warrior, what a surprise.
Gets outplayed and needs a friend to to 1v1. GG. Delete your warrior.

I’m really surprised by this thread. Since the adrenal health boost a good warrior is pretty much the biggest threat to rangers in wvw, especially with the ridiculous boon duration build.
The high stability and resistance uptime keeps you nearly immune to CC, which the ranger needs to keep you from closing the gap. And by rotating shield block/reflect, invulnerability and adrenal health a ranger shouldn’t have enough dps to kill you in the small windows where you are vulnerable.

When I’m on my ranger I kill plenty of bad warriors, but the good ones are a death sentence unless I’m in the open field where I can kite around them and stalemate the fight. When I’m on my war I decimate rangers.

Jim Hunter.6821:

I’m really surprised by this thread. Since the adrenal health boost a good warrior is pretty much the biggest threat to rangers in wvw, especially with the ridiculous boon duration build.
The high stability and resistance uptime keeps you nearly immune to CC, which the ranger needs to keep you from closing the gap. And by rotating shield block/reflect, invulnerability and adrenal health a ranger shouldn’t have enough dps to kill you in the small windows where you are vulnerable.

When I’m on my ranger I kill plenty of bad warriors, but the good ones are a death sentence unless I’m in the open field where I can kite around them and stalemate the fight. When I’m on my war I decimate rangers.

Well that’s the thing, we’re talking about open field and 1v1. But you wouldn’t need to stalemate the fight if you were running zealots or berserker gear, because you’d be able to out position the warrior, deny both his damage and sustain, and then wear through his remaining defenses fairly quickly.

Sure, get stuck with a warrior in close combat with no way of escaping, then he’s probably going to get through your defenses before too long while his sustain and damage output are high. But even then, it’s not a guarantee for the warrior (the odds are in his favour though).

Choppy.4183:

Jim Hunter.6821:

I’m really surprised by this thread. Since the adrenal health boost a good warrior is pretty much the biggest threat to rangers in wvw, especially with the ridiculous boon duration build.
The high stability and resistance uptime keeps you nearly immune to CC, which the ranger needs to keep you from closing the gap. And by rotating shield block/reflect, invulnerability and adrenal health a ranger shouldn’t have enough dps to kill you in the small windows where you are vulnerable.

When I’m on my ranger I kill plenty of bad warriors, but the good ones are a death sentence unless I’m in the open field where I can kite around them and stalemate the fight. When I’m on my war I decimate rangers.

Well that’s the thing, we’re talking about open field and 1v1. But you wouldn’t need to stalemate the fight if you were running zealots or berserker gear, because you’d be able to out position the warrior, deny both his damage and sustain, and then wear through his remaining defenses fairly quickly.

Sure, get stuck with a warrior in close combat with no way of escaping, then he’s probably going to get through your defenses before too long while his sustain and damage output are high. But even then, it’s not a guarantee for the warrior (the odds are in his favour though).

The problem with that war boon duration build is there isn’t enough of a window to burn them down, even if the ranger is full zerk their damage is too low since durability runes bump most warriors up to 3k+ armor. Actually, especially if the ranger is full zerk because then they really have to keep as much distance as possible making it very easy for the war to reset any time he is in danger.

Jim Hunter.6821:

The problem with that war boon duration build is there isn’t enough of a window to burn them down, even if the ranger is full zerk their damage is too low since durability runes bump most warriors up to 3k+ armor. Actually, especially if the ranger is full zerk because then they really have to keep as much distance as possible making it very easy for the war to reset any time he is in danger.

Oh, I agree that the build is broken. But yes, if the warrior just keeps resetting then he’s in the same spot as the tanky druid and you’ll get that stalemate you mentioned.

That said, most warriors still aren’t running the boon build and most warriors couldn’t get far enough from a druid to reset. You wouldn’t have to keep that much distance. Tbh, I’ve been looking at druids lately and I think I see quite a lot of build potential there, to the point I might start playing one to try some things out.

Choppy.4183:

Jim Hunter.6821:

The problem with that war boon duration build is there isn’t enough of a window to burn them down, even if the ranger is full zerk their damage is too low since durability runes bump most warriors up to 3k+ armor. Actually, especially if the ranger is full zerk because then they really have to keep as much distance as possible making it very easy for the war to reset any time he is in danger.

Oh, I agree that the build is broken. But yes, if the warrior just keeps resetting then he’s in the same spot as the tanky druid and you’ll get that stalemate you mentioned.

That said, most warriors still aren’t running the boon build and most warriors couldn’t get far enough from a druid to reset. You wouldn’t have to keep that much distance. Tbh, I’ve been looking at druids lately and I think I see quite a lot of build potential there, to the point I might start playing one to try some things out.

Yeah I didn’t see a lot of them in your tier, but the only ones I find in t1/t2 are running those kitten ed runes and boon duration food.

Jim Hunter.6821:

Yeah I didn’t see a lot of them in your tier, but the only ones I find in t1/t2 are running those kitten ed runes and boon duration food.

Salt rubbed… wounds burning. QQ

Hopefully those runes get clipped before the next balance patch though. I’d hate to see the warrior get nerfed instead, since it would miss the root of the problem.

Choppy.4183:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Yeah I didn’t see a lot of them in your tier, but the only ones I find in t1/t2 are running those kitten ed runes and boon duration food.

Salt rubbed… wounds burning. QQ

Hopefully those runes get clipped before the next balance patch though. I’d hate to see the warrior get nerfed instead, since it would miss the root of the problem.

I couldn’t believe they escaped a nerf this time around. I avoided getting them for that reason lol. Might as well invest in them now, I mean it only took several years for perplexity runes to finally get nerfed…..