Guild Wars 2

Dont know why all still wasting nearly 100 Gold for Runes of Strength…
I still can use my Runes of the Scholar while easly maintain 22-25 stacks might for my party in pretty much every dungeon/fraktal. For a boss with much movment or no wall you could use Battle Standard (10 stacks might) too. You just need some tasty Chocolate Omnomberry Cream

Comparing this with Runes of Strength and some casual food like Plate of Truffle Steak you losing:
+45 % might duration
+7% damage (always)
+100 power

but with Runes of the Scholar and Chocolate Omnomberry Cream you would get:
+20% boon duration
+10% damage (not always up)
+100 Ferocity
+40% magic find while under the effect of a boon (a bit selfish but hey…)

This should be nerly the same for you and your party (maybe even better).
Dont underestimate “boon duration” it not just increasing might but fury, swiftness and vigor too (almost 100 % furry uptime with a secound War).

And yeah here is a Phalanx Strength Build

Maybe in pve but in wvw I’m not going to run an inferior version of a build because it costs more gold.

im not talking about WvW here, but i think the willl nerv something about Runes of Strength at some time, they are just whay to ahead from most of the other runes (mostly the Bonus 4 from the Rune is to strong in PvP)

There’s a difference cuz I’m the user of Phalix Strength in dgn, so I can tell.
Even with rune of strength, full PPCrit Gear, 20 20 0 30 0 set up, and phalix strength,
I still CANNOT maintain 25 stack 100% of the time. Sometimes the stack even drop down to 16 if my team members don’t give me enough might. I find your version kinda hard to believe unless your team member also gives you lots of might.

Btw, that food you eat is not good anyway, and tend to cost quite abit.
If my warrior eat that omnomberry maybe the might will be 25 stacks 100% of the time. I’ll try it sometimes.

Anyway, I tried my Phalix Strength build in most of the dgn by now (excpet Arah and CM), and it works amazingly well for a dgn group My dps is just slightly lower than my typical 30 30 0 0 10 build but it makes boss die even faster if your team is good.

I test it again in heart of the mist with “Rune of the Water” (5 % less boon duration) against the indestructible target golem, i stick with around 18-22 might stacks, without using “Whirlwind Attack” (against a wall maybe 3 mights) and “For Great Justice” (3 long mights and 2 shorter mights stacks).

Why not both? You can salvage runes from items when you’re done and lose next to nothing, unless you’re stupid and put them in WvW/Karma gear even though we know by now you can’t salvage those.

If you’re running Phalanx Strength you’re in a PUG group, where Strength > Scholar. Alternatively, high level fractals where LH Ele & Staff Ele combo is a lot more difficult, but if you’re playing that 80g for Strength runes doesn’t matter.

Scholars fine when you can consistently hit rotations on your target, but in a lot of cases, that just isn’t possible, so strength helps a lot in those.

The other reason is that for a lot of people (like me), they can’t keep their HP above 90% anywhere near enough for scholar to be really useful, so you may as well take strength.

I use this for fraktal and some fast dungeons where “usual” might stacking isnt that easy and for trashgroups it dosnt matter anyway witch runes you have, you just need 3+ targes in cleave range for easy 25 stacks might on 100 % uptime.
For most bossfights, with dont last longer than 60 sec, i just trow a battle standard for free 10 stacks and fury.
With the 20 % additional boon duration from this food, i give my party around 18-25 might stacks on solo targets, the “free” 40 % magic find boost isn’t that bad too .

I’m using the exact same build as yours except i was eating plate of truffle steaks ^-^ will give choc omnom a try

Honestly, I would probably just go with Runes of Hoelbrak instead, especially for WvW. You get +20% might duration, the might-on-struck and -20% condi duration.

Olba.5376:

Honestly, I would probably just go with Runes of Hoelbrak instead, especially for WvW. You get +20% might duration, the might-on-struck and -20% condi duration.

Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if Hoelbrak was buffed or Strength was nerfed. Compare the 4th slot Rune bonuses and you can see what I am talking about:
Hoelbrak
Strength

Strength gives an extra +15% might duration on superior runes for no trade off compared to Hoelbrak. (The chance to gain might when struck / cooldown is the exact same).

I think Mr Anet made a small oversight. As to which Rune is right, it is hard to say but all other specific boon duration Runes do not have an additional +15% on the 4th bonus slot so Strength is more likely to be the loser (at least the loss of gain Might when struck proc).

+15% bonus on 4th slot is only reserved for condition-based enhancements (i.e. Krait, Balthazar, etc.)

TL;DR Runes of Strength is destined to be nerfed

There is another rune with 15% might on the 4th bonus but its a condi rune and its dungeon only. Hoelbrak does seem like it should have this too no idea why it doesn’t.