Guild Wars 2

Hai..there
Well i rely like two axe build but axe of hand is just worthless in WvW/PvP
spatially axe 5 .
Are u guys planing to address that some time in the future ?

You really dont get it. I don’t blame you, most people on the forums either drank the zerk coolaid, or read that kitten off people and just use that as their base opinion.

AXE 5’s finesse lies in the whirl finisher, and it is one of the best whirl finishers in the game because of the amount of control you have over it, and the amount of time it can combo/pewpew.

Pro condition warriors use longbow + swd/axe for the warrior selfcombo ( with combushot as starter) to perform a leaping firewhirl of doom.

How are you using the skill? Depending on how you use the skill is what make is viable or not.

As stated by a previous user, it can be used as a whirl finisher with fire fields and such. This can also be great use of building adrenaline. It also a 360 melee attack as well. If ya plan on using this purely for dps, the axe auto attack can cover that, assuming you are using dual wield axe.

I also laughed at how he tried to call out to ANET with CAPS in the thread name. Isn’t he just adorable? Axe 5 has it’s uses.

Most people do not realize that seemly weak skills are balance through the combo fields.

warrior have tons of combo finishers but very little access combo fields

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Combo

Zayle.7253:

I also laughed at how he tried to call out to ANET with CAPS in the thread name. Isn’t he just adorable? Axe 5 has it’s uses.

Has it,s uses on what exactly…. PvE ? End no…. i run axe/shield …so what are u..one of this fan boys that think everything is great…
If u think is so perfect then why single warrior don’t use / axe on pvp?
Please enlighten me ….i,m kitten end have no clue how to play warrior….

Zee.1294:

Zayle.7253:

I also laughed at how he tried to call out to ANET with CAPS in the thread name. Isn’t he just adorable? Axe 5 has it’s uses.

Has it,s uses on what exactly…. PvE ? End no…. i run axe/shield …so what are u..one of this fan boys that think everything is great…
If u think is so perfect then why single warrior don’t use / axe on pvp?
Please enlighten me ….i,m kitten end have no clue how to play warrior….

OH Axe sucks in PVE as well. Only good for Orr farming with zerg, but even for tagging longbow is better.

Axe 5 is also absolutely brilliant at generating masses of adrenaline. It’s 15 hits, so that’s half of all your adrenaline. Do it in a group of 2 or more and it’s an automatic full bar.

Zee.1294:

Has it,s uses on what exactly…. PvE ? End no…. i run axe/shield …so what are u..one of this fan boys that think everything is great…
If u think is so perfect then why single warrior don’t use / axe on pvp?
Please enlighten me ….i,m kitten end have no clue how to play warrior….

Has it’s uses =/= perfect. Talk about a misquote there buddy. I run it for PvE with a longbow and sword mainhand. Carpeting the area in fire and spinning on it has devastating damage, especially with a Sigil of Earth on one of the weapons for 15 chances to proc. The sigil and trait for bleeding add up between flurries for heavy bleed stacking all while spreading that burn even more. You can dodge while using it and it hits 360 degrees to hit a large number of mobs and also flings projectiles everywhere when used in a combo field. This was all mentioned already in this thread.

It doesn’t have ANY real use in SPvP, but then neither do warriors as a whole. The attack is painfully obvious and not heavily damaging.

P.S. Don’t call someone a stupid fanboy if all you’re going to do is exaggerate their post and even ignore their posting history.

I like using the axe #5 in high crit builds with adrenaline on-crit. It’s basically an adrenaline on demand skill, especially if you are hitting multiple foes.

I think it’s totally reasonable to ask for axe skill 5 to reflect projectiles while channeled. Also adding like 5 stacks of might to axe 4 would help drag it out of the realm of worst warrior offhand.

Zayle.7253:

Zee.1294:

Has it,s uses on what exactly…. PvE ? End no…. i run axe/shield …so what are u..one of this fan boys that think everything is great…
If u think is so perfect then why single warrior don’t use / axe on pvp?
Please enlighten me ….i,m kitten end have no clue how to play warrior….

Has it’s uses =/= perfect. Talk about a misquote there buddy. I run it for PvE with a longbow and sword mainhand. Carpeting the area in fire and spinning on it has devastating damage, especially with a Sigil of Earth on one of the weapons for 15 chances to proc. The sigil and trait for bleeding add up between flurries for heavy bleed stacking all while spreading that burn even more. You can dodge while using it and it hits 360 degrees to hit a large number of mobs and also flings projectiles everywhere when used in a combo field. This was all mentioned already in this thread.

It doesn’t have ANY real use in SPvP, but then neither do warriors as a whole. The attack is painfully obvious and not heavily damaging.

P.S. Don’t call someone a stupid fanboy if all you’re going to do is exaggerate their post and even ignore their posting history.

posting history…..eeeek

Maybe u don’t read right or something ……. I said PvP…not PvE ….buddy … that was the point in of my question….end stop lecture me how to play warr…doing that sins 1 beta
…So after so many great post we think axe 5 is great end will go build our adrenalin cause there is no other way do that….. case close
Ps; BTW i didn’t call u stupid….. don’t ad words i have not said….

Zayle.7253:

Zee.1294:

Has it,s uses on what exactly…. PvE ? End no…. i run axe/shield …so what are u..one of this fan boys that think everything is great…
If u think is so perfect then why single warrior don’t use / axe on pvp?
Please enlighten me ….i,m kitten end have no clue how to play warrior….

Has it’s uses =/= perfect. Talk about a misquote there buddy. I run it for PvE with a longbow and sword mainhand. Carpeting the area in fire and spinning on it has devastating damage, especially with a Sigil of Earth on one of the weapons for 15 chances to proc. The sigil and trait for bleeding add up between flurries for heavy bleed stacking all while spreading that burn even more. You can dodge while using it and it hits 360 degrees to hit a large number of mobs and also flings projectiles everywhere when used in a combo field. This was all mentioned already in this thread.

in pve…i would just hundred blade the mobs down fast and move on…

use axe5 in a zerg in wvw when they got retaliation up and make sure you hit 5 targets. That is all.

I must agree with OP axe off* hand is complete garbage. The number 4 has little range and gives u fury for little time(why would I give up a leap finisher stun for this?) the number 5 is a whirl finisher cool! That’s about it cuz the actual spin does about the same damage as a cleave auto attack on axe and with out stability it’s pretty useless. The skill should be the same as thief as in duration, reflect and damage. Mace is even a better choice a line knockdown for 2 seconds although the mace number 4 is trash.

I just wonder why:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Whirling_Axe
is worse then:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Whirling_Wrath
In every way… :<

It has double the cool-down, less damage, hits more (which is BAD BAD BAD BAD, thanks to retaliation.) and has almost 3 times the channel time.

Disabling the “Melee attack assist” option in your settings, which prevents your character from moving into the hitbox of enemies, will allow you to use this skill from the inside of an enemy, hitting with both the melee attack and the projectiles resulting in a substantial increase in total damage to the target.

Axe 5 needs its cool-down decreased by 50%, and damage increased by 100%, and hit less too, maybe 5… not 15… 15 is way too much.. maybe if we had a heal when hit.

“Condition builds and whirlfinishing in firefield for massive damage in PvE.”
In tears. :’D

Axe 4 and 5 are useless in every way, 5 was okish with lifesteal foods when it had no ICD and ONLY as a 2ndary weaponset. About adrenaline generation, you can do the same with 100b+whirlwind→swap→full adrenaline and actually do some damage in the meantime. Warrior condition builds don’t come even close compared to powerbuilds in PvE and in PvP we suffer with conditionbuilds with other reasons like lack of unique conditions we can apply so we can’t cover our bleeds well enough. Lbow is a good condi weapon, but oddly enough it actually works better in a powerspec.

About axe offhand:
Axe 4 is even worse than GS F1 and that says a lot, it needs its numbers tweaked and add something else than worthless 2 sec fury.
Axe 5 needs to reflect or put some debuffs on it’s use (massive vulnastacking with axe+axe or put bleeds on it maybe?).

Psybunny.8906:

“Condition builds and whirlfinishing in firefield for massive damage in PvE.”
In tears. :’D

It’s bawss in wvw and spvp too.

AlBundy.7851:

I think it’s totally reasonable to ask for axe skill 5 to reflect projectiles while channeled. Also adding like 5 stacks of might to axe 4 would help drag it out of the realm of worst warrior offhand.

The projectile reflection is seems like a reasonable addition, if for no other reason than the stolen version of whirling axe has it. I’m not sure what the damage output of the stolen version is, I’m guessing it’s probably less… but the reflection would add a nice bit of utility that could be used as an alternative to the shield.

Reading the wiki in regards to axe 4, it seems to provide fury for each foe it hits, so you could possibly get perma-fury if you hit 2 foes each time with both swings and have +50% fury duration… although that’s quite a bit of investment.

Axe 4 should give 5 seconds of retaliation per foe hit.

Zayle.7253:

I also laughed at how he tried to call out to ANET with CAPS in the thread name. Isn’t he just adorable? Axe 5 has it’s uses.

I think you should clarify that it has its minimal use in PVE before someone makes fun of..oops..too late

Yes, i would like to see the off hand weapons more viable in pvp especially axe since i love the 5 skill (how it looks not how it works).

Kaga.7629:

You really dont get it. I don’t blame you, most people on the forums either drank the zerk coolaid, or read that kitten off people and just use that as their base opinion.

AXE 5’s finesse lies in the whirl finisher, and it is one of the best whirl finishers in the game because of the amount of control you have over it, and the amount of time it can combo/pewpew.

Pro condition warriors use longbow + swd/axe for the warrior selfcombo ( with combushot as starter) to perform a leaping firewhirl of doom.

All whirl finishers are terrible, they do exactly the same effects as projectile finishers and just get sprayed all over the place, you’d be thankful to even land one hit from a whirl projectile. Also condition warriors don’t exist because conditions are terrible in PvE in general, on top of how much damage zerker warriors are capable of putting out. Gonna have to agree with the guy in tears about people claiming axe 5 being a whirl finisher somehow makes OH axe not “completely terrible”.