Guild Wars 2

So I’m just returning to sPvP and Gw2 as a whole after playing some casual WvW on and off for a few months.

when I stopped playing sPvP warriors were considered useless so I’m wanting to know how they are now compared to say a Guardian.

I’ve been looking around for builds and all I’ve really seen is Hambow build suggested. Is there any alternative strong builds as I prefer melee oriented builds.

Any advice would be great. Thanks

Warriors are in a really good position right now and have been for close to a year thanks to some absolutely huge buffs they received last Summer. They are considered OP for various reasons but the only real problem with them at the end of the day is Longbow as a weapon is pretty much broken because of all the utility it brings when synergized with various traits.

Oh, and Berserker Stance (prevents new conditions from applying to you for the duration) lasts a little too long (10s.)

well, hambow, check out my thread on 2nd page.

i don’t believe anything else worth anything in serious 5v5 plays, only if some one can prove me wrong.

Simon.3794:

well, hambow, check out my thread on 2nd page.

i don’t believe anything else worth anything in serious 5v5 plays, only if some one can prove me wrong.

Sad but true. Devs made hambow stronger and nerfed axe/GS builds because of building momentom. Apparently warriors aren’t supposed to dodge.

Axe/GS builds are still great for roaming, thieves are still better for this in pvp tho.

a t s e.9614:

Simon.3794:

well, hambow, check out my thread on 2nd page.

i don’t believe anything else worth anything in serious 5v5 plays, only if some one can prove me wrong.

Sad but true. Devs made hambow stronger and nerfed axe/GS builds because of building momentom. Apparently warriors aren’t supposed to dodge.

What did Anet do to make Hambow stronger? O_o

“Merciless Hammer: Damage to stunned and knocked down foes has been decreased from 25% to 20%.
Pin Down: Added a new warm-up effect. Increased the cast time from .25 seconds to .75 seconds.
Arcing Shot: The damage of this skill has been reduced by 15%. "

Most of all the serious nerfs last patch were targetted towards Hambow. What exactly did they buff?

hambow is definitely the go to build in a group setting, not so much for a roamer/dueling

Kagamiku.9731:

a t s e.9614:

Simon.3794:

well, hambow, check out my thread on 2nd page.

i don’t believe anything else worth anything in serious 5v5 plays, only if some one can prove me wrong.

Sad but true. Devs made hambow stronger and nerfed axe/GS builds because of building momentom. Apparently warriors aren’t supposed to dodge.

What did Anet do to make Hambow stronger? O_o

“Merciless Hammer: Damage to stunned and knocked down foes has been decreased from 25% to 20%.
Pin Down: Added a new warm-up effect. Increased the cast time from .25 seconds to .75 seconds.
Arcing Shot: The damage of this skill has been reduced by 15%. "

Most of all the serious nerfs last patch were targetted towards Hambow. What exactly did they buff?

Hambow got buffed so hard, the ability to stack might with hambow and the runes of strength made hambow ridiculous. People run around with 25 stacks of might. And hambow now has 4 sigils.

Anyway hambow only OP in team fights, in 1v1 most people don’t have any problems with hambow.

Neither 4 sigils or Rune of Strength is exclusive to warrior, though. Can’t really call that a buff to Hambow. Hambow itself wasn’t buffed. And personally speaking, I did considerably better with hambow pre-patch. And yes, I’m using Rune of Strength. But sacrificing Melandru runes or Lyssa for them was a big blow to survivability with the ridiculous amount of condition spam in the current meta. Engi or Necro condition spamming the circles is far more OP in team fights then a warriors aoe. Warriors F1 hammer skill is easily dodged, and the bows F1 really doesnt do a lot of damage anymore, especially with a hambow build that has barely any condition damage.

Kagamiku.9731:

a t s e.9614:

Simon.3794:

well, hambow, check out my thread on 2nd page.

i don’t believe anything else worth anything in serious 5v5 plays, only if some one can prove me wrong.

Sad but true. Devs made hambow stronger and nerfed axe/GS builds because of building momentom. Apparently warriors aren’t supposed to dodge.

What did Anet do to make Hambow stronger? O_o

“Merciless Hammer: Damage to stunned and knocked down foes has been decreased from 25% to 20%.
Pin Down: Added a new warm-up effect. Increased the cast time from .25 seconds to .75 seconds.
Arcing Shot: The damage of this skill has been reduced by 15%. "

Most of all the serious nerfs last patch were targetted towards Hambow. What exactly did they buff?

sure hambow got nerfed, but rune of strength and new sigil of intellegence sync perfectly to hambow, making it extremely strong, sure it lost sustain, but it sure does a lot more burst damage then pre patch, while every other warrior build simply got nerfed to hell, even the ones that takes skill and not op (for bug reason)

Kagamiku.9731:

Neither 4 sigils or Rune of Strength is exclusive to warrior, though. Can’t really call that a buff to Hambow. Hambow itself wasn’t buffed. And personally speaking, I did considerably better with hambow pre-patch. And yes, I’m using Rune of Strength. But sacrificing Melandru runes or Lyssa for them was a big blow to survivability with the ridiculous amount of condition spam in the current meta. Engi or Necro condition spamming the circles is far more OP in team fights then a warriors aoe. Warriors F1 hammer skill is easily dodged, and the bows F1 really doesnt do a lot of damage anymore, especially with a hambow build that has barely any condition damage.

you dont get the point, the point is, hambow is still viable while everything else got nerfed hard.

also switch endure pain to signet of stamina, voila, all condi clear with 45 CD and extra dodges, you don’t need endure pain.

Uhhh…Warriors could stack might using Hoelbrak before the patch…

Sadly, builds like this one or this are probably the most powerful setups Warriors have. The only weakness of the first one is that there’s no way to deny a stomp but your minor traits also make you tougher while reviving and let you do it faster.

Don’t get me wrong, Hambow is still good for team fights, but those builds will wipe the floor with it. The condition builds are also strong in teamfights but also serve as good far assaults and home guards. What annoys me is that I would rather play Axe/GS but condi is just better overall. A Evis can of course one shot a squishy but the sustain is so low. What confuses me is that people cry cheese when I hit a 9k Evis but don’t say anything about my condi builds. Up till now I have yet to receive any crap on the same level of my power builds. I guess people are fine with taking 1.5-2k+ condi ticks but not with one big Evis or a Skull Crack even though those builds are much harder to play and aren’t as strong.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Sadly, builds like this one or this are probably the most powerful setups Warriors have. The only weakness of the first one is that there’s no way to deny a stomp but your minor traits also make you tougher while reviving and let you do it faster.

Don’t get me wrong, Hambow is still good for team fights, but those builds will wipe the floor with it. The condition builds are also strong in teamfights but also serve as good far assaults and home guards. What annoys me is that I would rather play Axe/GS but condi is just better overall. A Evis can of course one shot a squishy but the sustain is so low. What confuses me is that people cry cheese when I hit a 9k Evis but don’t say anything about my condi builds. Up till now I have yet to receive any crap on the same level of my power builds. I guess people are fine with taking 1.5-2k+ condi ticks but not with one big Evis or a Skull Crack even though those builds are much harder to play and aren’t as strong.

Yeah, sadly gotta agree with you (at least for 1 v 1’s, I think they’re fairly even in team fights for diferent reasons of course.). Condition damage builds are pretty strong compared to power builds, since critical damage has gotten nerfed.