Guild Wars 2

Hi all, this is not a build i made, this is just the build that 80% of the good warriors run with in tpvp right now, so i tought that if anybody is looking for a good build, this is probably the best you can get.
It’s full glass cannon, you have to be really good at kite and use the walls and spaces in your advantage.

WEAPONS:
1)Greatsword
2)No standard weapon as second set, i run axe/shield, but the best warrior i ever met in pvp used greatsword/rifle with this build, so it’s up to you.

UTILITIES:
Cure: you choose, i use Healing Surge, but i think every healing skill is viable
Utilities: Bull Charge – Frenzy – Balanced Stance
Elite: signet

TRAITS:
20-20-0-0-30
Strenght: V and IV
Arms: V and X
Discipline: V, X and XII

EQUIP:
Amulet: Beserker with Berserker Jewel
Runes: no standard choice here, you choose (i use Divinity or Eagle)
Sigil: Fire or Force on greatsword, u just want to do a lot of damage here, you choose what to put in the second set, (my setup is GS: Fire/ AXE: Purity / SHIELD: energy)

This is the build, it’s made for group roamers, and it’s very awesome when it comes to dmg output, i found it to be good in 1v1 too, but is not made for that, and of course never think about defending points.
It’s important to know other classes skills, so that you’ll know when they’re out of stun breakers, and you can drop one of your 2 bursts or both.
NB: i noticed that in almost every premade team the first enemy that get the Ctrl+T on his head is the warrior, so be ready for an initial burst in almost every group fight, thats why i use the shield.
Good Game! ^^

Don’t run full melee without leg specialist. 10/20/0/10/30 is better if you prefer boonhate (total elekiller), otherwise 20/20/0/10/20 or 20/25/0/10/15, but you’ll lose Mobile strikes. Suggested runes are Ogre or scholar, fire/force/energy/bloodlust whatever you prefer on weapons. Skills are classical bulls, frenzy and balanced stance or endure pain.

Alternative build that works and has more sustain and nice aoe is lbow/gs with 20/0/20/0/30 with the Burst mastery trait. It has less burst though, but very good pressure. Dogged march and last stand from defense line, signet cd and mobile strikes from discipline. Utilities are bulls/bolas, signet of fury/frenzy, endure pain/balanced stance. Best runes are hoelbrak imo and fire on both weapons.

Elite on all of the builds is SoR ofc.

EDIT: And it’s hardly new, this has been the warrior “meta” for the past 6-7 months. :P

No condition removal. Is this a joke? Lol.

Another GS build. Yay.

No offense, but I really despise GS zerker glass. Sure you can block the focus for 3 seconds, but premades aren’t dumb they’ll wait till your shield is down and roflstomp that build. It relies on being carried.

Here’s a more balanced build that won’t drop like a fly and you still have enough juice to punish ppl, but in a more subtle way.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQJARSjcOxwJPOPMxBgzjkYqJVB7SPEDt0A-ToAg1CqIySllLLTWyssZNqYVB

If you run with that build you will be surprised at how well you will do, if you work together as a team

Daecollo.9578:

No condition removal. Is this a joke? Lol.

Very much so

Daecollo.9578:

No condition removal. Is this a joke? Lol.

Yeah no condition removal, GO HARD OR GO HOME!!! ^^
I explain you why:
Group roaming: an ele or a mesmer can keep u clean of conditions, as i wrote, i use this build in group roaming.
If u need condition removal in solo fights, i suggest mending, Lyssa runes and sigil of purity on the axe.

Mijo.3274:

Daecollo.9578:

No condition removal. Is this a joke? Lol.

Yeah no condition removal, GO HARD OR GO HOME!!! ^^
I explain you why:
Group roaming: an ele or a mesmer can keep u clean of conditions, as i wrote, i use this build in group roaming.
If u need condition removal in solo fights, i suggest mending, Lyssa runes and sigil of purity on the axe.

As a necromancer and a warrior player, I laugh at anyone who uses Lyssa runes, I can turn all those boons into more damaging conditions.

again, this build has to be carried to be worth anything.

If you do 30 tactics with shouts you’ll be more valuable to that group, especially against those necros and hgh engis

I run rifle + axe/shield so I can show up to a fight and knock down someone’s hp by 7k or stay out of the AoE fest. Not to mention rifle 3 + killshot are great ways to figure out where sneaky thieves + mesmers are, since the shot follows them. I’ve rifle 3 a thief into a refuge and rifle 5 butt him out countless times.

jmatb.6307:

again, this build has to be carried to be worth anything.

Lol, this is a group roamer build, my team use a group formed by 3 guys. The support u give is killing people in seconds, not healing.
Give this build a try.
And btw, i won several 1v1 in tpvp with this and some rare 1v2 in hot join, so its not worthless, is just really hardmode.

jmatb.6307:

Another GS build. Yay.

No offense, but I really despise GS zerker glass. Sure you can block the focus for 3 seconds, but premades aren’t dumb they’ll wait till your shield is down and roflstomp that build. It relies on being carried.

Here’s a more balanced build that won’t drop like a fly and you still have enough juice to punish ppl, but in a more subtle way.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQJARSjcOxwJPOPMxBgzjkYqJVB7SPEDt0A-ToAg1CqIySllLLTWyssZNqYVB

If you run with that build you will be surprised at how well you will do, if you work together as a team

I use a really similar build to yours in pve and wvw.
Pve: 10-20-0-30-10
Wvw: 0-10-0-30-30
With shout heal and soldier runes, i know thats an awesome build, but lack in dmg compared to a classic zerk GS.
When it comes to tpvp, i switch 20 points from strenght to defense if i need survivabity, i think tactic is not a good tree in tpvp cause of its stupid minor traits. This is just my opinion.

jmatb.6307:

again, this build has to be carried to be worth anything.

If you do 30 tactics with shouts you’ll be more valuable to that group, especially against those necros and hgh engis

Have you ever played tPvP against organized teams? Of course it needs to get carried, as he stated, this is not 1vs1 build. You wouldn’t be valuable to your team with shout healing as it’s very low, and it kills your dps, which is your main role in a team. I don’t like playing like this either, but you won’t find anyone serious running shout healing in high end tPvP.

Mijo.3274:

Lol, this is a group roamer build, my team use a group formed by 3 guys. The support u give is killing people in seconds, not healing.

People who are out of stunbreakers. While you’re very squishy and very easy to kill yourself.

Now tell, why should a group have you on this build instead of, for example, a Thief or a Mesmer? Both are capable of similar “insta-gib” potential if equally full-on damage traited/geared, except they both have quite a lot more survivability and utility on their own.

No leg specialist or condition removers.

PvP Team: Nty, I will take the Guardian or Ranger instead.

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Mijo.3274:

Lol, this is a group roamer build, my team use a group formed by 3 guys. The support u give is killing people in seconds, not healing.

People who are out of stunbreakers. While you’re very squishy and very easy to kill yourself.

Now tell, why should a group have you on this build instead of, for example, a Thief or a Mesmer? Both are capable of similar “insta-gib” potential if equally full-on damage traited/geared, except they both have quite a lot more survivability and utility on their own.

Sorry, i didnt told you that i’m actually using this build from the 30 April patch and already did a lot of tournaments, so i know what i say.
A zerk thief have less dmg output than a warrior with this build, especially against point holders like guardians and eles, not to mantion that almost every GS attack we do is a small AoE.
The mesmer is really strong, that was my main class for two months and i tried a lot of builds, you are right here, a mesmer is probably always better than a warrior if he run a shatter build with boon stripper, but the warrior dmg is still superior, and a group roaming class really need dmg above else to steal the bases quickly.

NOTE: it looks like you guys in the warrior forum wanna read only topics about how warrior suck, i really cant understand that, maybe only the noob whiners stay here and i’m in the wrong place XD

I got a name for the spec.

“Ranger Pet minus the Ranger.”

Daecollo.9578:

I got a name for the spec.

“Ranger Pet minus the Ranger.”

Both pet + warrior build has the same problem, pathing issues. LoL, I heard A-Net working actively on it though

Mijo.3274:

Sorry, i didnt told you that i’m actually using this build from the 30 April patch and already did a lot of tournaments, so i know what i say.

You can play HotJoin or solo even without traits or gear, who care. But you cant get in a good team with warrior. There is general consensus on this forum about warriors (even dev’s, ele’s and mesmer’s know that warrior sucks).

Mijo.3274:

A zerk thief have less dmg output than a warrior with this build, especially against point holders like guardians and eles, not to mantion that almost every GS attack we do is a small AoE.

• Thief can survive, Warrior can’t,
• Thief can decide when to disengage + (heals and condi removal in stealth),
• Thief can stomp or ress other ppl,

• Someone should tell you that every single Melee weapon used by any profession have small AoE.

Mijo.3274:

NOTE: it looks like you guys in the warrior forum wanna read only topics about how warrior suck, i really cant understand that, maybe only the noob whiners stay here and i’m in the wrong place XD

Yes only noobs left… And incompetent ppl who try to misslead other players. As you can see one ppl in this thread thinks that Warrior is better then Thief and Mesmer, he also dont know that all melee weapons do aoe dmg, but he is ready to teach others.

shimzor.6057:

Mijo.3274:

Sorry, i didnt told you that i’m actually using this build from the 30 April patch and already did a lot of tournaments, so i know what i say.

You can play HotJoin or solo even without traits or gear, who care. But you cant get in a good team with warrior. There is general consensus on this forum about warriors (even dev’s, ele’s and mesmer’s know that warrior sucks).

Mijo.3274:

A zerk thief have less dmg output than a warrior with this build, especially against point holders like guardians and eles, not to mantion that almost every GS attack we do is a small AoE.

• Thief can survive, Warrior can’t,
• Thief can decide when to disengage + (heals and condi removal in stealth),
• Thief can stomp or ress other ppl,

• Someone should tell you that every single Melee weapon used by any profession have small AoE.

Mijo.3274:

NOTE: it looks like you guys in the warrior forum wanna read only topics about how warrior suck, i really cant understand that, maybe only the noob whiners stay here and i’m in the wrong place XD

Yes only noobs left… And incompetent ppl who try to misslead other players. As you can see one ppl in this thread thinks that Warrior is better then Thief and Mesmer, he also dont know that all melee weapons do aoe dmg, but he is ready to teach others.

I dont even read Daecollo comments cause he’s just a 13 yrs old troll, i have np with that, but cmon you, are you serious?
Comparing the range of GS with daggers on a thief lol, and dont even know that tpvp mean tournament pvp, not to mention that i never wrote that warrior is better than thief or mesmer lol.
I know that warrior is underpower probably better than you considering i still play the class instead of whine in the forum, the build i posted is just the best full dps build for group roaming.

Mijo.3274:

Comparing the range of GS with daggers on a thief lol

GS maybe look so big for you but believe me its 130 range (same as thief with dagger), why dont you just read skill tooltips and try to learn something about profession?? BTW about that “great aoe” 100b hits up to 3 targets in front of the warrior.

Mijo.3274:

and dont even know that tpvp mean tournament pvp

I know what tpvp stands for, but im sure you dont have 5 man team (every good team would kick you at same time when they see warrior).
Everything i wrote so far stands for competitive games (and there is no place for warrior atm), im not gona argue about low ranked games, random teams or noob join.

Mijo.3274:

I know that warrior is underpower probably better than you considering i still play the class instead of whine in the forum, the build i posted is just the best full dps build for group roaming.

I never whine, i just dont like when noobs missleading ppl. I dont know how can you defend your rly bad build when you dont know basics (weapon range, number of targets hit, etc).

Mijo.3274:

the build i posted is just the best full dps build for group roaming.

“best full dps”

Yea right, your build is best for target dummy i guess.

I have a 5 man team and i’m the official bunker ele in that, i switched to warrior lately just to give it a try
Dagger Thieves usually never hit more than one target, while a whiwind hit a lot in bases fight.
You’re assuming that i said things i never said, that’s pretty lame in a discussion.
In hotjoin i run a 0-20-30-0-20 hammer/gs with valkyrie amulet for the sustain, but in a group of roamers the role of a warrior is to do dmg.
From what you say a believe you are the one that never did tpvp with a warrior.

Mijo.3274:

I know that warrior is underpower probably better than you considering i still play the class instead of whine in the forum, the build i posted is just the best full dps build for group roaming.

Yes, the warrior is underpowered. They still have some semblance of viability, but trying to do what other classes already do way better isn’t it. Melee “no defense – all in” berserker damage isn’t a particularly good thing for a warrior.

No, I’m sorry to disappoint, but your damage is nowhere near an equally offensive Thieve’s. This isn’t PvE. You’re not gonna deliver one hundred blades after the other. Backstabs and heartseekers dwarf your DPS. Hell, I doubt your actual delivered damage even rivals a mesmer’s…

Sorry to disappoint again, but most normal melee has standard reach – 130 units. It has nothing to do with how big your weapon is. Warrior’s greatsword has 130 units of range on their standard attack, the same that a Thieve’s dagger. Yes, even if your Warrior is a norn and the Thief is an asura… That’s not how this works. What you do have over a Thieve’s dagger (not their sword though) is cleave. More relevant in PvE where mobs mindlessly bunch up in tight groups than in PvP.

If you mean “range” as in mobility, as in WW and Rush then… Are you serious? More mobility than a THIEF? Since when?

“Assassination” is what Thieves excel at, and even then they’re not particularly hot in the current PvP meta for a reason…

You talk about “group roaming”, but this is tPvP, not WvW. tPvP isn’t about zerging around in a full group. At most you’re going to have 3 roamers – at most. You’re going to have to hold your own in a fight. And this doesn’t.

Btw Shimzor, the TOP team in the world actually have a warrior in the team, i think the name is QT Hman

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Mijo.3274:

I know that warrior is underpower probably better than you considering i still play the class instead of whine in the forum, the build i posted is just the best full dps build for group roaming.

Yes, the warrior is underpowered. They still have some semblance of viability, but trying to do what other classes already do way better isn’t it. Melee “no defense – all in” berserker damage isn’t a particularly good thing for a warrior.

No, I’m sorry to disappoint, but your damage is nowhere near an equally offensive Thieve’s. This isn’t PvE. You’re not gonna deliver one hundred blades after the other. Backstabs and heartseekers dwarf your DPS. Hell, I doubt your actual delivered damage even rivals a mesmer’s…

Sorry to disappoint again, but most normal melee has standard reach – 130 units. It has nothing to do with how big your weapon is. Warrior’s greatsword has 130 units of range on their standard attack, the same that a Thieve’s dagger. Yes, even if your Warrior is a norn and the Thief is an asura… That’s not how this works. What you do have over a Thieve’s dagger (not their sword though) is cleave. More relevant in PvE where mobs mindlessly bunch up in tight groups than in PvP.

If you mean “range” as in mobility, as in WW and Rush then… Are you serious? More mobility than a THIEF? Since when?

“Assassination” is what Thieves excel at, and even then they’re not particularly hot in the current PvP meta for a reason…

You talk about “group roaming”, but this is tPvP, not WvW. tPvP isn’t about zerging around in a full group. At most you’re going to have 3 roamers – at most. You’re going to have to hold your own in a fight. And this doesn’t.

I meant that whirlwind a 100b usually hit multiple targets, when i say group roaming i mean 3 people.
I never wrote that warrior is a good class, i prefer mesmer as roamer when i want to win, but 90% of the times i’ll be at my base with an ele ^^
What i want to say is that if you want to be the dmg dealer in the roamer group with a warrior, this the best build.
I’m far from pro, i played against Boon, Team Ugly and other pro teams, and i always lost, but usually i win 80% of the matches with my team in tpvp.

that build is pretty crap after quickness nerf. You won’t ever be able to deliver a full 100b, even on an AFKer. The fact that you wasted 30 points on Discipline (15 is the required number to get fast hand), instead of putting 25 on arms and getting leg specialist in tactic, shows how good you know about warrior based on maxed GS dmg.
Warrior is not that bad after latest patch, but days of the glass cannon are longtime over!

Mijo.3274:

the new Pvp Meta Build for the warrior

Mijo.3274:

Yeah no condition removal, GO HARD OR GO HOME!!! ^^

Mijo.3274:

If u need condition removal in solo fights, i suggest mending, Lyssa runes and sigil of purity on the axe.

Mijo.3274:

And btw, i won several 1v1 in tpvp with this and some rare 1v2 in hot join, so its not worthless, is just really hardmode.

Mijo.3274:

When it comes to tpvp, i switch 20 points from strenght to defense if i need survivabity, i think tactic is not a good tree in tpvp cause of its stupid minor traits.

Mijo.3274:

A zerk thief have less dmg output than a warrior with this build, especially against point holders like guardians and eles.

Mijo.3274:

Comparing the range of GS with daggers on a thief lol

Mijo.3274:

I never wrote that warrior is a good class, i prefer mesmer as roamer when i want to win, but 90% of the times i’ll be at my base with an ele ^^

Mijo.3274:

In pvp i use elementalist (Hinoken), mesmer (Eugenio Del Male) and warrior (Wipper Dukot Quinto).
My Rank is 15.

Mijo.3274:

From what you say a believe you are the one that never did tpvp with a warrior.

Ok.

Now, stop missleading ppl and go back to ele forum.

30 in discipline is for max dmg, i dont use leg specialist, never did, guess is personal preference.(sry for english)
Shimzor, you spending time hatin without anything costructive and as i said, i bet you never did or quitted long time ago doing tpvp with a warrior, you said u never whine, but that’s all that u’re doin

Mijo.3274:

30 in discipline is for max dmg, i dont use leg specialist, never did, guess is personal preference.(sry for english)
Shimzor, you spending time hatin without anything costructive and as i said, i bet you never did or quitted long time ago doing tpvp with a warrior, you said u never whine, but that’s all that u’re doin

As i said, stop missleading ppl, you r rank 15, ur main is Ele, ur co-main is Mesmer, but you’re here and giving “the new Pvp Meta Build for the warrior” to us.

shimzor.6057:

Mijo.3274:

30 in discipline is for max dmg, i dont use leg specialist, never did, guess is personal preference.(sry for english)
Shimzor, you spending time hatin without anything costructive and as i said, i bet you never did or quitted long time ago doing tpvp with a warrior, you said u never whine, but that’s all that u’re doin

As i said, stop missleading ppl, you r rank 15, ur main is Ele, ur co-main is Mesmer, but you’re here and giving “the new Pvp Meta Build for the warrior” to us.

Assuming again things i never said, how can u say what my rank is? I’m actually 76% so u cant even find me in the leaderboards, there must be a strange world in ur head o_0
I guess u must be really pro and u’re actually winning 5v1 in tpvp without a weapon equipped and 30 points in tactics using healing shout build.

PS: i’m having huge fun, pls dint quit the discussion mate!

Mijo.3274:

Assuming again things i never said, how can u say what my rank is? I’m actually 76% so u cant even find me in the leaderboards, there must be a strange world in ur head o_0

No i cant, i just (and only) quoted you (this is your post):

Mijo.3274:

In pvp i use elementalist (Hinoken), mesmer (Eugenio Del Male) and warrior (Wipper Dukot Quinto).
My Rank is 15.

Im not so expirienced, i played ~700 tournament games as a warrior (that is my main and my only profession).

shimzor.6057:

Mijo.3274:

Assuming again things i never said, how can u say what my rank is? I’m actually 76% so u cant even find me in the leaderboards, there must be a strange world in ur head o_0

No i cant, i just (and only) quoted you (this is your post):

Mijo.3274:

In pvp i use elementalist (Hinoken), mesmer (Eugenio Del Male) and warrior (Wipper Dukot Quinto).
My Rank is 15.

Im not so expirienced, i played ~700 tournament games as a warrior (that is my main and my only profession).

Lol that post must be a little old now… Guess 3-4 months? You made really DEEEP research here XD
I did only tpvp since march (and living story), mainly with ele.
As i said before, check on youtube, i think its Team Paradigm vs Team Iron, there’s an awesome warrior there and he’s using the set up i wrote, the one i wrote is not a build i made.

When you look at the build I suggested you still get a pretty strong amount of damage, just in a more subtle way that you still apparently haven’t figured out. 80% crit rate, 800 condi dmg…

Shouts prevent the necro boon condi conversion from devastating guardians, eles, and hgh from being able to have the condis on the entire time they fight you. Condis are more dangerous than direct damage in tpvp by a long shot

Sorry, I just had to point this out:

jmatb.6307:

Another GS build. [blah blah blah] It relies on being carried.

jmatb.6307:

Here’s a more balanced build that won’t drop like a fly and you still have enough [blah blah blah blah blah] if you work together as a team

So either way you’re expecting teammates to pull some weight for you.

What was your point again?

Point is, Warrior was probably the first class made, therefore it probably has the worst traits.

Imo shouts work in pve and wvw but not in spvp.
The main problem for ANet with warrior is the balance between pve and pvp, for example the ele got nerfed in pvp, and now is really underpower in pve, the warrior is the same in opposite direction.