ok, i want talk about wvw. i meet sometimes good guardians and seriously, how can i kill good guardians? they have much better hybrid damage because of burning and they have so much kittening heal and protection and aegis and kittening invincibility from elite and staff, even i have signet of might for sure eviscerate, he just walk away from fight with half hp, when i am dead… seriously, need advice. or is just better run away?? i can kill every class, when i use brain, but guardians are so kittening op, i have no words for it
its easy you cant ^^.
guardian have better selfheal and better dmg ( burn, retalation and the normal hits)
he has too much protection vs a warrior who hits with normal power skills.
the warrior only have normal hits to attack and not realy good boons to save yourself.
if you have shoutheal you stay a bit longer but deal nearly no dmg ^^.
so the warrior only can beat a guardian who is playing glascannon. good played guard will win vs warriors.
Yesterday a fellow guildy and warrior and I were roaming in wvw. We just took a sentry by the enemy garri and I had my map open. He said “oh sh!#” and I closed my map and there were 2 guardians almost on us. We started running towards Bay(we owned it)so we could gather our wits and the enemy guards did the /laugh. My friend said, oh they’re guardians, lets kill them. So we did.
They were both some what tanky. I, hammer + sword/WH in Knights Gear with Melandru runes. Other warrior Shout Heal with Axe/Sword/WH in PVT Gear with runes that escape me now.
We proceeded to /laugh @ each on after we downed them, popped stability and staked them.
If they were really good and super tanky the odds could have been in their favor but that’s why I have my Sword/WH. To escape a fight I’m not winning. It might be cowardly but IMO it’s better than giving the enemy WXP.
So, how do you beat a good guardians? Well, bring a friend!
Unless they are bunker, I can hold my own against a guardian and it is a 50/50 toss up on who will win (talkin WvW). Bunkers I can’t kill, but they usually can’t kill my either and the fight usually drags on until either his friends or my friends show up, if nobody ever showed up I guess he would eventually whittle me down.
Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”
and here i thought that anet designed destruction of the empowered and might signets to be an anti-guardian mechanism. and punishing guardians for their class mechanism.. “boonspam”… with the possibility to buff guards if the “mechanism” is too strong!! lol.
I go out of my way to kill or at least harass each and ever guardian I encounter, especially if they’re arrogant enough to charge into our lines in WvW.
Anything you can do to pin them in front of allies, knock them down repeatedly, cripple them, burst down more of their HP than they expect, kick them off a cliff, ambush them underwater, crush them while they engage NPCs, feign defeat to lure them into unfavorable conditions – use guile to defeat the cheesy player using the class, rather than the character itself. Bunker guardian is the single most braindead and forgiving class that exists in this game to date and using /laugh at a dead one is more than acceptable.
and here i thought that anet designed destruction of the empowered and might signets to be an anti-guardian mechanism. and punishing guardians for their class mechanism.. “boonspam”… with the possibility to buff guards if the “mechanism” is too strong!! lol.
You only destroy your self faster on their retal with DOE. What kind of melee class are we if we run away from the only other melee class in the game which is a support one lol.
Between two guardians you get 6 aegises/blocks/4burns/2 small heals
Immune for 3 seconds when using elite
Blocking WHILE healing which you can not interrupt unless your another guardian
Circle of warding on their hammer that beats any cc on our hammer and cant be blocked and can trap targets which WE desperately need.
The guardian class – like the rest of the holy trinity:mesmer and thieves- is a joke.
The balance in this game since launch is a bad joke in the mmo community.
The devs need to grow some balls and balance the classes. They shouldn’t worry about pvpers leaving..the majority left and continues to leave. They have access to the stats to prove it, I’m sure.
This is my roaming spec when I go with another class. Usually, a higher dps class. I fought a JQ warrior the other night that nearly blew my 16(17k w/ WvW buffs) in a few seconds with a well timed BC+Frenzy+HB. I lacked protection boon and nearly died because of it. It was a pretty close fight until I was able to get my signet heal off.
Honestly, being able to time your interrupts on our heals + timed bursts when protection is off is the key. Very difficult to do without nullification on your weapon. Especially, if you run in to me with 80% bonus boon duration and 100% bonus boon duration to protection. Ping me in game if you have questions.
If the guardian has his signet for healing, which you will see in his buffs area, you need to drop a heavy burst on him to make him pop that early. Once that happens, you now have 32-40 seconds to kill him. If you ever played arenas in WoW against a paladin, you always burst the paladin to make him burn his bubble. Same instance here. We are slow with the exception of a few gap closers like Judge’s Intervention, Sword’s Blink, and possible high uptime on swiftness. No shame in running a little to allow your heal to come off cd.
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“berserker stance clears all CC on you and you’re still immune to CC for 8 seconds”
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A bit off topic, but I’d just like to jump in and point out thakitten ’s awful to taunt a downed enemy. Poor show.
Unless he is a sneak thief, then taunt them all you want. Their whole class is about fighting dirty and they deserved to be taunted for picking the cowards way.
Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”
When I get a chance to 1v1 a guardian, most of em are easymode nubs at full bunker. So they have very little swiftness and gap closers, if youre running GS, just kite em around and whirlwind through em over n over until you get your bursts up, and continue lol. I run glass with some traits in defense and yeah guards are a pain 1v1.
Just don’t try to fight em head on. kite em and burst when you can.
Previous Guardian player here, don’t have a warrior though so please take this with a grain of salt:
Every pure melee warrior I ever fought in sPvP couldn’t win 1v1 with me, mostly due to constant retal + protection (which is just stupid) usually they died or ran, except for one. He had a rifle and axe + shield, and was very good at just kiting me around enough so that I had to pop my shouts and defensive skills to keep bleeds and cripple off me.
Once he made me burn a lot of my defenses he’d rush in a spike me with Eviscerate and really start putting major pressure on me with the axe auto.
Maybe not the best gameplan, but I do know guardians hate getting kited around. They may have 2 teleports at the max (unlikely), but pretty much 0 access to cripple or chill, and no reliable ranged weapon.
Previous Guardian player here, don’t have a warrior though so please take this with a grain of salt:
Every pure melee warrior I ever fought in sPvP couldn’t win 1v1 with me, mostly due to constant retal + protection (which is just stupid) usually they died or ran, except for one. I had a rifle and axe + shield, and was very good at just kiting me around enough so that I had to pop my shouts and defensive skills to keep bleeds and cripple off me.
Once he made me burn a lot of my defenses he’d rush in a spike me with Eviscerate and really start putting major pressure on me with the axe auto.
Maybe not the best gameplan, but I do know guardians hate getting kited around. They may have 2 teleports at the max (unlikely), but pretty much 0 access to cripple or chill, and no reliable ranged weapon.
like slomoshun, i run a sword/horn also,but with hammer and im full zerker gear with rubies, and i think its funny that this is the only setup i have a chance with vs guardians. Gotta have the horn to convert the retaliation and burning, the sword to “kite” them around with the leap, even though for me its more like im going every direction randomly getting them dizzy and hammer to catch them off guard when they dont have stability.
Sometimes you can sometimes you cant but truth is they cant chase.
Some guardians are burn machines and you have no choice but to kite. Me I pick my moments and like to play pressure but not spike. My goal is to make it so bad that you have to blow CDs and I never even really burst.
I don’t expect to beat everyone but one thing I do know is how to pace a fight. Once you get that down any build can be beaten as long as you have an inkling of what they are running and have the necessary skills to do it..
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Previous Guardian player here, don’t have a warrior though so please take this with a grain of salt:
Every pure melee warrior I ever fought in sPvP couldn’t win 1v1 with me, mostly due to constant retal + protection (which is just stupid) usually they died or ran, except for one. He had a rifle and axe + shield, and was very good at just kiting me around enough so that I had to pop my shouts and defensive skills to keep bleeds and cripple off me.
Once he made me burn a lot of my defenses he’d rush in a spike me with Eviscerate and really start putting major pressure on me with the axe auto.
Maybe not the best gameplan, but I do know guardians hate getting kited around. They may have 2 teleports at the max (unlikely), but pretty much 0 access to cripple or chill, and no reliable ranged weapon.
Sorry bro, I like to pew pew guardians. Not sure if it was me but I do run rifle + axe/shield.
They were both some what tanky. I, hammer + sword/WH in Knights Gear with Melandru runes. Other warrior Shout Heal with Axe/Sword/WH in PVT Gear with runes that escape me now.
You had enough pressure with those non dps setups to down 2 guardians??? I don’t think that’s possible unless they were underleveled or braindead.
I made two guardians run from me in WvW before my group could come to reinforce. Greatsword/Axe + Warhorn. I think maybe there was something wrong with them, lol
Previous Guardian player here, don’t have a warrior though so please take this with a grain of salt:
Every pure melee warrior I ever fought in sPvP couldn’t win 1v1 with me, mostly due to constant retal + protection (which is just stupid) usually they died or ran, except for one. He had a rifle and axe + shield, and was very good at just kiting me around enough so that I had to pop my shouts and defensive skills to keep bleeds and cripple off me.
Once he made me burn a lot of my defenses he’d rush in a spike me with Eviscerate and really start putting major pressure on me with the axe auto.
Maybe not the best gameplan, but I do know guardians hate getting kited around. They may have 2 teleports at the max (unlikely), but pretty much 0 access to cripple or chill, and no reliable ranged weapon.
Sorry bro, I like to pew pew guardians. Not sure if it was me but I do run rifle + axe/shield.
We are sometimes running with a rifle/gs berserker warrior in smallscale (max 5 players) and it’s one of the most effective builds to have there:
- highest base defense (cavalier trinkets still give a decent amount of defense even in full berserker armor).
- highest base health.
- highest damage (10-15k killshots on 1500 range are by far not as easy to anticipate as one would think)
- quick movement with gs 3+5.
- not slowable (dogged march + melandru runes and/or lemongrass soup)
Sure, warrior moves are relatively easy to anticipate, but that’s a drawback that is needed to balance out their strengths (highest armor, hp, damage and movement in the game).
Previous Guardian player here, don’t have a warrior though so please take this with a grain of salt:
Every pure melee warrior I ever fought in sPvP couldn’t win 1v1 with me, mostly due to constant retal + protection (which is just stupid) usually they died or ran, except for one. He had a rifle and axe + shield, and was very good at just kiting me around enough so that I had to pop my shouts and defensive skills to keep bleeds and cripple off me.
Once he made me burn a lot of my defenses he’d rush in a spike me with Eviscerate and really start putting major pressure on me with the axe auto.
Maybe not the best gameplan, but I do know guardians hate getting kited around. They may have 2 teleports at the max (unlikely), but pretty much 0 access to cripple or chill, and no reliable ranged weapon.
Sorry bro, I like to pew pew guardians. Not sure if it was me but I do run rifle + axe/shield.
It might have been, it was sPvP maybe a few months ago. Sadly he did not win the fight, but he came close, afterwards he raged a little and said something like “WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO AGAINST THAT?!” I did kind of feel bad. Still he was fairly talented as I was used to just slapping warriors around.
Having both an 80 Guard and 80 Warrior (among others),
Against bunker Guardian, the key is kiting some (you need to be higher-damage output to overcome the bunker as pure-high CC chains doesn’t work well and damage conditions are near worthless. Basically you use distance (stun/cripple/immobilize) as your defense while continuing with pressure. Be aware of the Guardian reflection abilities/utilities.
It gets far more difficult if the Guardian has the option to use line-of-sight to bring the fight to him.
its easy you cant ^^.
guardian have better selfheal and better dmg ( burn, retalation and the normal hits)
he has too much protection vs a warrior who hits with normal power skills.
the warrior only have normal hits to attack and not realy good boons to save yourself.
if you have shoutheal you stay a bit longer but deal nearly no dmg ^^.
so the warrior only can beat a guardian who is playing glascannon. good played guard will win vs warriors.
Guardians are easy to kill..keep them at distance at all times,let them waste their buffs,dont go randomly hitting them and waste your skills,while they have protection,retalliation etc etc on them.Keep pinning them down( immobi,cripp ) and let their buffs wear out…and again KEEP THEM AT DISTANCE… And they are yours.Range is your friend vs guardians,do not let them come close and they won’t stand a chance.
Most Guardians will go full on you when they have all their buffs,but back down when they wear out..at this time,you jump in and strike them hard.Make sure you do not waste any of your knockdowns,stunns while they are buffed..Save them for when he’s vulnerable.
its easy you cant ^^.
guardian have better selfheal and better dmg ( burn, retalation and the normal hits)
he has too much protection vs a warrior who hits with normal power skills.
the warrior only have normal hits to attack and not realy good boons to save yourself.
if you have shoutheal you stay a bit longer but deal nearly no dmg ^^.
so the warrior only can beat a guardian who is playing glascannon. good played guard will win vs warriors.
Guardians are easy to kill..keep them at distance at all times,let them waste their buffs,dont go randomly hitting them and waste your skills,while they have protection,retalliation etc etc on them.Keep pinning them down( immobi,cripp ) and let their buffs wear out…and again KEEP THEM AT DISTANCE… And they are yours.Range is your friend vs guardians,do not let them come close and they won’t stand a chance.
Most Guardians will go full on you when they have all their buffs,but back down when they wear out..at this time,you jump in and strike them hard.Make sure you do not waste any of your knockdowns,stunns while they are buffed..Save them for when he’s vulnerable.
Keep a bunker guardian at a distance? As in let them sit on a node? Isn’t that how they win?
So our options are to melee, killing our selves
Or
Use weak kitten range and have them clear your 1-2 conditions
Or run away?
This contributed a lot to the thread. Gj!
You do realize we ARE the melee class in the game, don’t you?
By the time you are done ‘kiting’ a guardian, they have already won.
How about this..give us good boon ripping like necros, mesmers or even thieves?
Oh but warriors can’t actually be balanced with guardians. That would make guardians QQ.
increasing speed would make us thieves… giving us pets would make us rangers.. QQ
raw stat increase is the only buff that inclined with the warrior theme! lol.!
its easy you cant ^^.
guardian have better selfheal and better dmg ( burn, retalation and the normal hits)
he has too much protection vs a warrior who hits with normal power skills.
the warrior only have normal hits to attack and not realy good boons to save yourself.
if you have shoutheal you stay a bit longer but deal nearly no dmg ^^.
so the warrior only can beat a guardian who is playing glascannon. good played guard will win vs warriors.
Guardians are easy to kill..keep them at distance at all times,let them waste their buffs,dont go randomly hitting them and waste your skills,while they have protection,retalliation etc etc on them.Keep pinning them down( immobi,cripp ) and let their buffs wear out…and again KEEP THEM AT DISTANCE… And they are yours.Range is your friend vs guardians,do not let them come close and they won’t stand a chance.
Most Guardians will go full on you when they have all their buffs,but back down when they wear out..at this time,you jump in and strike them hard.Make sure you do not waste any of your knockdowns,stunns while they are buffed..Save them for when he’s vulnerable.
Keep a bunker guardian at a distance? As in let them sit on a node? Isn’t that how they win?
So our options are to melee, killing our selves
Or
Use weak kitten range and have them clear your 1-2 conditions
Or run away?
This contributed a lot to the thread. Gj!
You do realize we ARE the melee class in the game, don’t you?
By the time you are done ‘kiting’ a guardian, they have already won.
How about this..give us good boon ripping like necros, mesmers or even thieves?
Yes,you have the most chance of kiting them untill their buffs wear out.You realize the range on a rifle…Right ? Eventhough warrior is a melee class,is that enough for you to not use a rifle or longbow ? did you even bothered Trying to kite them untill their buffs wear out? I bet you didn’t but still want to contribute in the fact that you got no idea,but still want to say it’s impossible to do so.
increasing speed would make us thieves… giving us pets would make us rangers.. QQ
raw stat increase is the only buff that inclined with the warrior theme! lol.!
Rip protection and retaliation off. Make more attacks unblockable. Give us a pull. More sustain. Oh, and how about some minor traits that actually compare to other classes?
Guardian:
Radiant Power – Deal 10% more damage to foes inflicted with conditions.
Elusive Power – Damage is increased by 10% if endurance bar is not full.
Warrior:
Attack of Opportunity – Increases damage to bleeding foes by 10%.
Stick and Move – Increases damage by 3% if endurance bar is not full.
Even half of our damage increasing traits are undeniably inferior. It’s completely unacceptable.
Yes,you have the most chance of kiting them untill their buffs wear out.You realize the range on a rifle…Right ? Eventhough warrior is a melee class,is that enough for you to not use a rifle or longbow ? did you even bothered Trying to kite them untill their buffs wear out? I bet you didn’t but still want to contribute in the fact that you got no idea,but still want to say it’s impossible to do so.
Did you even read his post? Why in the unholy kitten should a class which the developers plainly acknowledge is meant for melee be forced into some stupid mediocre ranged fight against the only other predominantly melee class, especially when you have to be up close in order to keep them from taking a point? The game is unbalanced and no amount of pitiful kiting until their ridiculously abundant buffs wear out will change that.
What the warrior class needs is patch changes to actually bring us in line with other classes, not pitiful attempt to rationalize why we should be able to fight on equal footing with them. You aren’t helping.
increasing speed would make us thieves… giving us pets would make us rangers.. QQ
raw stat increase is the only buff that inclined with the warrior theme! lol.!
Rip protection and retaliation off. Make more attacks unblockable. Give us a pull. More sustain. Oh, and how about some minor traits that actually compare to other classes?
Guardian:
Radiant Power – Deal 10% more damage to foes inflicted with conditions.
Elusive Power – Damage is increased by 10% if endurance bar is not full.
Warrior:
Attack of Opportunity – Increases damage to bleeding foes by 10%.
Stick and Move – Increases damage by 3% if endurance bar is not full.
Even half of our damage increasing traits are undeniably inferior. It’s completely unacceptable.
Yes,you have the most chance of kiting them untill their buffs wear out.You realize the range on a rifle…Right ? Eventhough warrior is a melee class,is that enough for you to not use a rifle or longbow ? did you even bothered Trying to kite them untill their buffs wear out? I bet you didn’t but still want to contribute in the fact that you got no idea,but still want to say it’s impossible to do so.
Did you even read his post? Why in the unholy kitten should a class which the developers plainly acknowledge is meant for melee be forced into some stupid mediocre ranged fight against the only other predominantly melee class, especially when you have to be up close in order to keep them from taking a point? The game is unbalanced and no amount of pitiful kiting until their ridiculously abundant buffs wear out will change that.
What the warrior class needs is patch changes to actually bring us in line with other classes, not pitiful attempt to rationalize why we should be able to fight on equal footing with them. You aren’t helping.
Are you people………. ? Anyway,the Op in question asks what to do against a good guardian.I gave him advice on how he Can counter those.We have range weapons available,that you are so dense to even try and bother using them and disgregard everything anyone says about using a range weapon vs a certain class…is pretty unbelievable in itself.That you say im not helping,why you are the one dismissing advice…is again,unbelievable.
If you have no clue how to handle a warrior or use range weapons effectively,just roll another class,since you sound like you got absolutely no idea how to handle a warrior at all.FYI,done with this discussion,i gave advice to the OP..he can figure out what to do with it..Listening to you guys about waiting for warrior to be fixed and needing more sustain and waiting for patches and bla bla.. wont help him much At all.
I probably have more hours on my warrior than you do playing the game at all; take your presumptuous behavior and eat it. The last thing I need is to deal with the condescending behavior of some forum scrub.
What I am saying is that our ranged options are pitiful at best and they are not a true counter against something that is in dire need of a balance patch. “Use ranged” is not a fix, it’s a weak effort at overcoming something that should be balanced better in the first place. I kill guardians in WvW wearing full melee and /laugh at their corpse whenever the opportunity allows. They should be ashamed.
Fact is..u won’t beat any good guardian ever. Doesnt matter how good u r with warrior, they will still take u for breakfast. I feel that actually they does more dmg than us. While u can kite some mace or hammer guards, u won’t kite any guardian with gs or sword for too long, and those weapons hurts badly.
I have fun kicking them off of cliffs and luring them into very unfavorable conditions in WvW. They might be hiding behind a class advantage, but the majority of them are poor thinkers as a result of playing a common build which requires next to no actual cognitive activity. The day we’re actually balanced against this preposterous class is the day we will get to relax in a pool filled with guardian tears.
@Caedmon.6798
i was trying every weapon set, every combination. i think longbow > rifle if i want range weapon, it just fit me better. also nobody want to stay in that kitten from F1, which crit for 1,5k every tick lol
problem is, i found overall best weapon set for warrior gs/a+shield. its maybe boring (i don’t think so), but warrior work best with this. gs gives great mobility and burst, axe and shield gives sustain, cc, burst. problem is, if i want to take rifle from bag, i need trait it also, or its kittening useless
@all anyway thanks for suggestions
btw i have today very frustrating fight against two p/d thieves. problem was, when i manage get one down, second use shadow refugee, first port away and second ress him under cloak. seriously i get them to downed 7x, they still ressing themselves, cloaking on mobs around and they kill me at the end /sad panda
Previous Guardian player here, don’t have a warrior though so please take this with a grain of salt:
Every pure melee warrior I ever fought in sPvP couldn’t win 1v1 with me, mostly due to constant retal + protection (which is just stupid) usually they died or ran, except for one. He had a rifle and axe + shield, and was very good at just kiting me around enough so that I had to pop my shouts and defensive skills to keep bleeds and cripple off me.
Once he made me burn a lot of my defenses he’d rush in a spike me with Eviscerate and really start putting major pressure on me with the axe auto.
Maybe not the best gameplan, but I do know guardians hate getting kited around. They may have 2 teleports at the max (unlikely), but pretty much 0 access to cripple or chill, and no reliable ranged weapon.
Sorry bro, I like to pew pew guardians. Not sure if it was me but I do run rifle + axe/shield.
It might have been, it was sPvP maybe a few months ago. Sadly he did not win the fight, but he came close, afterwards he raged a little and said something like “WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO AGAINST THAT?!” I did kind of feel bad. Still he was fairly talented as I was used to just slapping warriors around.
k, That wasn’t me then. As I’ve never said that ever lol. Also I won on mine.
@Caedmon.6798
i was trying every weapon set, every combination. i think longbow > rifle if i want range weapon, it just fit me better. also nobody want to stay in that kitten from F1, which crit for 1,5k every tick lol
problem is, i found overall best weapon set for warrior gs/a+shield. its maybe boring (i don’t think so), but warrior work best with this. gs gives great mobility and burst, axe and shield gives sustain, cc, burst. problem is, if i want to take rifle from bag, i need trait it also, or its kittening useless
@all anyway thanks for suggestions
btw i have today very frustrating fight against two p/d thieves. problem was, when i manage get one down, second use shadow refugee, first port away and second ress him under cloak. seriously i get them to downed 7x, they still ressing themselves, cloaking on mobs around and they kill me at the end /sad panda
Stealth downed state should be revealed by damage..period. Its just one extra slap in the face to good players from Anet again favoring the broken thief class.
Anet’s stealth class is an exploitation and broken mechanics’ class and will ever be remembered as the worst stealth class in history. Make yourself heard in spvp and wvw forums about the thieves or they will never be fixed. God I hope whomever designed the class doesn’t get hired in any future game.
So the difficulty is in fighting the guardian the way our class was designed to be primarily played. BALANCE.
I haven’t had much trouble fighting Guardians on my Warrior at all…there’s been tons of stalemates for sure, but I’ve never outright lost to one in a 1v1 situation. I use hammer / sword & warhorn with a tanky heal shout build with enough crit chance / damage to really put on constant pressure / dps. Hammer is the main damage tool, while sword & warhorn primarily for the F1 and #5 (iirc) for vigor. Most Guardians like to run around with greatswords so those moves are extremely telegraphed and easy to manuver around. The main thing with downing Guardians is burst CC-ing them. I.e. using the hammer CC combo with some high power + crit chance will have them pooping themselves or just insta-downed. Just personal observation though…this actually reminds me I really need to get that warrior video uploaded lol. Oh! Don’t underestimate the power of vulnerability. I also use axe + mace in place of hammer, and all the vulnerability moves + on my mark is about 20% free damage for you.
Oh it’s entirely possible if you build in a very specific way, but what I’m saying is that even then, the guardian class is inherently so idiot-friendly and forgiving that it should not take the warrior nearly as much effort as it does while sacrificing so much more than the guardian has to just to down them because the warrior has to fight through an absurd -33% damage reduction on top of high armor on top of easily accessible sustain.
It’s pretty sad that with both weapons’ vulnerability attacks and “On My Mark!”, we still don’t break through a single boon that is very easy for the guardian to access. That’s what I call a lack of balance. Burst specs themselves need more ways to keep bunkers on their toes.
I’ve never had the trouble of outright losing to anyone in 1v1 in WvW because I know exactly how to keep myself alive and engage on my terms, but I find it exceedingly annoying how little effort it takes to roll a class like that.
-shrugs- I roll both a warrior and guardian in wvw… I wouldn’t say the guardian is forgiving unless you are running a bunker build but honestly the bunker build is easily countered and -shrugs-
Mind you I play a very balanced game on both sides of the coin (I only ever run full zerker warrior crap for speedruns and the like…)
Gotta say though I see more bad warrior/guardian players than any other class… Well except for when heartseeker thieves were all the range -rolls eyes-
Hmmm and I guess elementalists… It is one of those “either good or terrible” arguments.
