Guild Wars 2

Just wondering!
How good is the warrior compared to gardian in WvW commanding ?
And is there any good build with shield for commanding?

I’m gonna give the standard response and say that any profession is viable as a commander if you know how to use it.

I’ve seen full zerk Ele’s command and pull it off just like I’ve seen Thieves, Mesmers and Necromancers command as well. It all depends on how comfortable you are with your class.

That said, Guardian is the ideal commander for it’s party support and high survivability. Warrior would be the next best and a full defensive Ranger (Cleric or Nomad) would be just after that.

so from the 260 people who came to check this topic, no one had an answer ?! with a real explanation ?!

Im going to totally ignore the bs about “everything is viable” this is not eotm where you fight uplvls who cant even rally its wvw, specially if you play in tier 1-2 where the fights are bigger than 3 dudes ganking

To compare from a pov having both classes

Warrior: with stances and shield plus the highest passive defenses in game you are more than enough to enter the fray and survive, bring guardas with you to stability spam, get in command and live to tell the story.

Guard: relly more on active defenses than just walking and wait something to happen, not saying is bad, just need to time well your skills since guards have potato hp pool against warriors, spam everything and die.

Saying that is down by a lot of factors, like pugs, wvw guild and such, both are good but is more about which tier are you and how active your server is, if you are doing eotm just pick any class and command, it doesnt really matter

Also for the dude saying thief commander he is welcome to play against us in t1 with his ranger comander, lets see how far he goes when signet is down

Warrior is better for commanding than guardian imo because of the higher health pool, more Self-sustain when built right, and has higher in combat mobility. As a non-commander heavy, I would say guardian is more useful, but even then they are about even and just have different roles. You can play guardian just as well for commanding, but warrior is going to be easier.

Build:
Full PTV armor w/ melandru runes or dolyak runes (I like doly runes )
Cleric weapons with digits of water and bloodlust/energy
3 cleric trinkets, 2 ptv trinkets.

Utilities:
Shout heal
Shake it off
This one is optional:
• Shout with might
• Endure pain or stability stance
Dolyak signet is a must
Battle standard

Traits:
Necessary:
Shouts heal
Dogged March

I’m at work and a bit busy sorry for hasty guide but I know the frustration when people just say “whatever you feel like”

So warrior>guardian for COMMANDING ONLY!!! Situational uses otherwise

Mirrodin.8729:

Im going to totally ignore the bs about “everything is viable” this is not eotm where you fight uplvls who cant even rally its wvw, specially if you play in tier 1-2 where the fights are bigger than 3 dudes ganking

To compare from a pov having both classes

Warrior: with stances and shield plus the highest passive defenses in game you are more than enough to enter the fray and survive, bring guardas with you to stability spam, get in command and live to tell the story.

Guard: relly more on active defenses than just walking and wait something to happen, not saying is bad, just need to time well your skills since guards have potato hp pool against warriors, spam everything and die.

Saying that is down by a lot of factors, like pugs, wvw guild and such, both are good but is more about which tier are you and how active your server is, if you are doing eotm just pick any class and command, it doesnt really matter

Also for the dude saying thief commander he is welcome to play against us in t1 with his ranger comander, lets see how far he goes when signet is down

oscuro.9720:

Warrior is better for commanding than guardian imo because of the higher health pool, more Self-sustain when built right, and has higher in combat mobility. As a non-commander heavy, I would say guardian is more useful, but even then they are about even and just have different roles. You can play guardian just as well for commanding, but warrior is going to be easier.

Build:
Full PTV armor w/ melandru runes or dolyak runes (I like doly runes )
Cleric weapons with digits of water and bloodlust/energy
3 cleric trinkets, 2 ptv trinkets.

Utilities:
Shout heal
Shake it off
This one is optional:
• Shout with might
• Endure pain or stability stance
Dolyak signet is a must
Battle standard

Traits:
Necessary:
Shouts heal
Dogged March

I’m at work and a bit busy sorry for hasty guide but I know the frustration when people just say “whatever you feel like”

So warrior>guardian for COMMANDING ONLY!!! Situational uses otherwise

thanks for the feed back guys

Hello,
First of all, since this is the warrior sub-forum, you’ll obviously get more pro warrior replies.
I have played both and commanded a lot on both as well.
While the warrior does have an easier time staying alive, you need to consider what makes a good commander.
Important things in wvw are -
Group stability
Range CC
At least some sort of range pressure
Support like healing and protection

And probably the most important one – the might rotation (empower)

I have seen many commanders who had houndreds of hours commanded on their warriors switch to guardian just for getting the empower rotations better.

So in my opinion, for new wvw players and commanders I would suggest picking up warrior, but at the end of the day guardian outshines warrior in the commander role.

Also don’t forget that the bigger life pool and more defensive utilities from the warrior are useless once you understand how to fight, where to stand (positioning), when to push etc etc.
I personally run a lot of times on my guard with knights armor and full berserker trinkets and still end up being the last man standing.

Don’t take the easy route is what I can give you as an advice, take your time to practice and you will be rewarded for it

/edit: forgot to mention that the crazy in fight mobility of warrior is useless when commanding because most people won’t have the possibility of catching up to you

Warrior is the absolute best class for pure commanding. However, that being said, you have to run a very selfish build. The tankiest setup is GS+Sword/Shield, full nomads with melandru runes, energy/restoration sigils(can use on kill ones for eotm), healing signet, balanced stance, berserker’s stance, endure pain, and juggernaut. You can figure out the traits easily.

Guardian, however, does have certain advantages over the warrior. Guardians offer tremendous group support while being only slightly less tanky than a warrior. Guardians have the best balance between self-sustain and group contribution, making them the best commander for organized groups.

In summary, go warrior if you run with pugs most of the time since you won’t be able to rely on team support. Go guardian if you run with organized groups most of the time. No other class is really optimal as a commander, and while some do have advantages(mesmer veil, necro DS/plague, etc.), they’re overshadowed by their extreme disadvantages over warrior/guardian.