Guild Wars 2

I’d agree with you. Most warrior weapons are pretty clunky. They work fine in PvE where motion and mobility is less of an issue. This is especially true for GS, which is convenient since most mobs won’t budge while you plow into them.

Most of the burst abilities (F1) are just trash. Axe and Hammer are pretty good but they’ve seen incredible nerfs since release. What warriors need are viable options, as well as nerfs to the current meta builds. What really hurts us too is the current bunker meta. No zerker spec except for thieves really works in those conditions.

It’s because of the absurd amount of blind spamming ( No Anet,Remove blind on weapon swap isnt going to change a kitten thing about this ),condi spamming,aoe spamming,evade spamming,the ways a player can block,or pop immunity’s,stealth or port away that makes going double melee for a warrior currently as ineffective as possible vs a good player from “most” other professions.All you can do to stop frustrating yourself with your double melee builds that just don’t seem to work anymore.Just jump the condi bunker wagon.Anet is forcing warrs to go this way,i doubt if they even realize it tbh.Also with the current amulet system in pvp,you will always do much better on a warr going condi bunker,since the condi amulets have toughness,and you wont have to sacrifice a thing.Our attacks on most weapons are Heavily telegraphed,a thing wich most professions dont have to worry about.There is just so much wrong currently with our double melee builds,its just frustrating really.I tried all builds available,mind you ive been playing since day one on a warrior,i know them inside out.But currently in this meta,pvp speaking,there is no to little room for a double melee warr.You will not stand a chance vs a proper nec,thief,engi,mesmer.

I would like to see all mace attacks sped up a bit. I like maces but it’s just too unwieldy even in pve. Maces weren’t as clunky to wield as Anet displays. Moving sword’s final thrust to #3 was a good idea, but it too needs to be sped up a bit to be viable. Rifle AA needs some love too. MH axe is ok IMO.

Check me not sucking in duels

I like it, what’s your build Hoaxintelligence?

not bad indeed Hoax, but that’s wvw where you get -40% condi food also.
Wonder how that build works in pvp.. care to share? it does looks very nice :-) but very tricky… but I like the style!

Try longbow + axe/shield with soldier gear, it is the easiest and most effective duel spec I have ever run on any class. If people try to melee you just lay combustive shot and arcing arrow on yourself, and if they try to range, pin them down and switch to axe and eviscerate them. You’ll also get fire auras, burning projectiles and might up the wazoo using your many finishers in your fire field. Blind can be a bit annoying but combustive shot gets rid of it most of the time.

Jabberwock.9014:

Try longbow + axe/shield with soldier gear, it is the easiest and most effective duel spec I have ever run on any class. If people try to melee you just lay combustive shot and arcing arrow on yourself, and if they try to range, pin them down and switch to axe and eviscerate them. You’ll also get fire auras, burning projectiles and might up the wazoo using your many finishers in your fire field. Blind can be a bit annoying but combustive shot gets rid of it most of the time.

LB/s-s is the strongest combo ingame for a warr atm.You can pressure them from far,but if they close in you can switch and put torment on and just keep autoattacking to stack bleeds and cripple him ( also you have riposte to block from far and gain adren,or go upclose and apply 4x bleeds for 12 sec instead ) ,in a matter of time they will back off again,so you can start kiting again while they prob still have torment on them.Depending on your amulet and your trait setup,this weap combo atm is a beast when used right.

I run

0-20-20-0-30
Full bezerk. Accept for the helmet, shoulders, and chess, they are assassin.

Rending Strikes, Forcefull Greatsword, Dogged March, Cleansing Ire, Warrior sprint, Sharpened Axes, Burst Mastery

2x superior rune of melandru
4x Superior rune of resistance
=
-30% condition reduction
with -40 condi reduction food is -70% condition reduction,
+ Dogged March is -70 to -103% condition reduction (for the chilled, cripple, and immobilize)

and yes indeed, its an tricky build.
But I like tricky fights Specialy those long lasting who is going to win fights.
You gotta love that stuff

owyea the foods are -40 condi reduction, and the oil for extra precision
I use this build for 1vs1 duels and small scale roaming

Warriors don’t suck in duels. They aren’t “the best” in duels. But they are GOD MODE absolutely in every other aspect of the game pve, tPVP, Wvw jammer trains, mobility for escaping fights…. granted thus is not all one build but no class has everything in one build. .

TLDR: warriors are the best everywhere else in the game. They aren’t the best in duels so what stop whining that your easy mode stops in one completely irrelevant aspect of the game

Caedmon.6798:

Jabberwock.9014:

Try longbow + axe/shield with soldier gear, it is the easiest and most effective duel spec I have ever run on any class. If people try to melee you just lay combustive shot and arcing arrow on yourself, and if they try to range, pin them down and switch to axe and eviscerate them. You’ll also get fire auras, burning projectiles and might up the wazoo using your many finishers in your fire field. Blind can be a bit annoying but combustive shot gets rid of it most of the time.

LB/s-s is the strongest combo ingame for a warr atm.You can pressure them from far,but if they close in you can switch and put torment on and just keep autoattacking to stack bleeds and cripple him ( also you have riposte to block from far and gain adren,or go upclose and apply 4x bleeds for 12 sec instead ) ,in a matter of time they will back off again,so you can start kiting again while they prob still have torment on them.Depending on your amulet and your trait setup,this weap combo atm is a beast when used right.

Eh, I’ve tried sword/sword + longbow condition and I much prefer axe/shield + longbow power. It’s just too easy to cleanse conditions in this game, so you can be hardcountered since war can’t apply a ton of conditions like necro and engi. The stun on shield is amazing for interrupting heals and setting up eviscerate, and I prefer shield block 10x over sword block… blocking melee attacks is extremely useful, and I could care less about a couple bleed stacks. Dueling a condition spec war with axe/shield + longbow is a walk in the park since every time you use combustive shot or eviscerate you are clearing all their conditions (with cleansing ire). That’s not to speak of berserker’s stance and runes of lyssa.

And axe/shield combos so well with longbow… eviscerate, cyclone axe, throw axe, and shield bash are ALL combo finishers. Not to mention axe is one of the best weapons for filling adrenaline, so you will always have combustive shot up on switch.

Anyways I think it’s a bit of a misconception thinking of longbow as a condition weapon. Arcing arrow does MAJOR direct damage and burning doesn’t benefit that much from condition damage anyways. The six bleed stacks on pin down will never last full duration and can’t be reapplied quickly after being cleansed.

Only thing missing from axe/shield is ooc mobility imo. Still good for chasing with the cripple+stun though.

Finally impale’s torment stacks are getting majorly nerfed in the next patch, so all the more reason to switch to shield master race.

Jabberwock.9014:

Caedmon.6798:

Jabberwock.9014:

Try longbow + axe/shield with soldier gear, it is the easiest and most effective duel spec I have ever run on any class. If people try to melee you just lay combustive shot and arcing arrow on yourself, and if they try to range, pin them down and switch to axe and eviscerate them. You’ll also get fire auras, burning projectiles and might up the wazoo using your many finishers in your fire field. Blind can be a bit annoying but combustive shot gets rid of it most of the time.

LB/s-s is the strongest combo ingame for a warr atm.You can pressure them from far,but if they close in you can switch and put torment on and just keep autoattacking to stack bleeds and cripple him ( also you have riposte to block from far and gain adren,or go upclose and apply 4x bleeds for 12 sec instead ) ,in a matter of time they will back off again,so you can start kiting again while they prob still have torment on them.Depending on your amulet and your trait setup,this weap combo atm is a beast when used right.

Eh, I’ve tried sword/sword + longbow condition and I much prefer axe/shield + longbow power. It’s just too easy to cleanse conditions in this game, so you can be hardcountered since war can’t apply a ton of conditions like necro and engi. The stun on shield is amazing for interrupting heals and setting up eviscerate, and I prefer shield block 10x over sword block… blocking melee attacks is extremely useful, and I could care less about a couple bleed stacks. Dueling a condition spec war with axe/shield + longbow is a walk in the park since every time you use combustive shot or eviscerate you are clearing all their conditions (with cleansing ire). That’s not to speak of berserker’s stance and runes of lyssa.

And axe/shield combos so well with longbow… eviscerate, cyclone axe, throw axe, and shield bash are ALL combo finishers. Not to mention axe is one of the best weapons for filling adrenaline, so you will always have combustive shot up on switch.

Anyways I think it’s a bit of a misconception thinking of longbow as a condition weapon. Arcing arrow does MAJOR direct damage and burning doesn’t benefit that much from condition damage anyways. The six bleed stacks on pin down will never last full duration and can’t be reapplied quickly after being cleansed.

Only thing missing from axe/shield is ooc mobility imo. Still good for chasing with the cripple+stun though.

Finally impale’s torment stacks are getting majorly nerfed in the next patch, so all the more reason to switch to shield master race.

I’d really have to disagree How is putting torment and condis on someone youre otherwise pretty much unable to hit a bad thing compared to using an axe wich will be rendered completely useless in certain battles ? Play against a Proper condi warr with your current build,and you will see the difference, you will not stand a chance.A Proper player will evade all your evis,yet evading torment and continuously trying to cleans all condis,is a near impossible task.I play warr since day one of gw2,i know every build in and out.Condis are the way to go atm.Also,its about knowing When to apply What…and not randomly putting on condis that are being cleansed 2 sec later.

If you suck at duels with warrior i can guarantee you are doing sth wrong.
You either use the wrong traits or you are being outplayed with a class that is a lot more forgiving than the ones you mentioned.
There are warriors that are untouchable in OS and can dfeat any class.Don’t blame mechanics,try to improve yourself.

In pvp, as a sw/sw//lb war i have very little difficulty with anything that isn’t a necro or thief.
Thieves are very weak to combustive shot, while condi necros are pretty much my worst nightmare. As soon as berserker stance is over, i get chain feared and die in 10 secs.

In wvw there are way too many builds that are simply op in 1vs1 ( such as perplexity engi, mesmer or thief) that balance is non existant.

jportell.2197:

…they are GOD MODE absolutely in every other aspect of the game pve, tPVP, Wvw jammer trains, mobility for escaping fights…. granted thus is not all one build but no class has everything in one build. .

So the aspects of the game are… pve, tpvp, wvw zerg and… escaping fights. Suuuuuure, that is an incredibly important aspect of the game! /sarcasm
Anyway, why are you guys so focused on that? Thieves are way better both at ecaping and at pursuing than a war.
Also, lots of people in this thread have mentioned they don’t use a gs, that is pretty much the only escape tool of a war.

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

Check me not sucking in duels

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JvXE7ORepA

actually you do. running greatsword axe in duels ……

starting the fihgt with two random dodges….

i loled so hard in the first fight. only thing both did, were random dodges, fail dodges and then your oppenent get hit by eviscerate…
maybe you and your oppenent should learn animations instead of Spamming dodges on cooldown

dominik.9721:

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

Check me not sucking in duels

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JvXE7ORepA

actually you do. running greatsword axe in duels ……

starting the fihgt with two random dodges….

i loled so hard in the first fight. only thing both did, were random dodges, fail dodges and then your oppenent get hit by eviscerate…
maybe you and your oppenent should learn animations instead of Spamming dodges on cooldown

Would you be willing to post videos of you dueling?

Why harass another player who records and posts? If he is doing that bad, then offer some constructive criticism rather than telling him he’s bad.

In any case, lets see your dueling video.

What poor argumenattion is that?
Posting a video and saying this is the point why warrior isnt bad, although he played terrible , played a weak duel build, dodged randomly and used his skills wrong:
Bolas at Aegis, 100b while immobilize imstead of whirwind etc…..

The two random dodges at the beginning are the most redicioulus acting i ever hav seen.
The first guy only died because both of them spammed their dodges on cooldown.

So far i dont say warrior is good in duelling i have not to proof it with any video….
so…
But np. Come at the solo pvp 1vs1 server and you can see me every day.

Yeah but he’s got jump binded to his dodge roll button so when he spams his dodges at random times it looks pro.

year only his oppenent was bader by spamming random jump-dodges

Hey why don’t you guys fight him and prove him wrong?

Keefe.3821:

Hey why don’t you guys fight him and prove him wrong?

that’s not the point of this thread.The op in question wanted to show how op a warr is yet he plays a complete kitten.

axe+shield/greatsword and hammer/greatsword(which is one of the best 1 v 1’s for warrior atm) are great for 1 v 1’s….please qq about warriors somewhere other than the forums, maybe a nice quite corner

öhmmm not really….

best 1vs1 sets are atm R O M axe build 15/0/25/0/30 axe sword longbow
the condi set up mace /sword , longbow 20/0/20/0/30
and at least hambow 0/0/30/10/30

any greatsword build is atm a weak in 1vs1 especially without longbow and cleaning irse….

wvw guys……

Dominik lets duel and make some fun

I will add you

Dominik is a SIck player! holy kitten
Thanks again for the duels

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

Dominik is a SIck player! holy kitten
Thanks again for the duels

Did you get some recording? We’d like to see it!

Caedmon.6798:

Jabberwock.9014:

Caedmon.6798:

Jabberwock.9014:

Try longbow + axe/shield with soldier gear, it is the easiest and most effective duel spec I have ever run on any class. If people try to melee you just lay combustive shot and arcing arrow on yourself, and if they try to range, pin them down and switch to axe and eviscerate them. You’ll also get fire auras, burning projectiles and might up the wazoo using your many finishers in your fire field. Blind can be a bit annoying but combustive shot gets rid of it most of the time.

LB/s-s is the strongest combo ingame for a warr atm.You can pressure them from far,but if they close in you can switch and put torment on and just keep autoattacking to stack bleeds and cripple him ( also you have riposte to block from far and gain adren,or go upclose and apply 4x bleeds for 12 sec instead ) ,in a matter of time they will back off again,so you can start kiting again while they prob still have torment on them.Depending on your amulet and your trait setup,this weap combo atm is a beast when used right.

Eh, I’ve tried sword/sword + longbow condition and I much prefer axe/shield + longbow power. It’s just too easy to cleanse conditions in this game, so you can be hardcountered since war can’t apply a ton of conditions like necro and engi. The stun on shield is amazing for interrupting heals and setting up eviscerate, and I prefer shield block 10x over sword block… blocking melee attacks is extremely useful, and I could care less about a couple bleed stacks. Dueling a condition spec war with axe/shield + longbow is a walk in the park since every time you use combustive shot or eviscerate you are clearing all their conditions (with cleansing ire). That’s not to speak of berserker’s stance and runes of lyssa.

And axe/shield combos so well with longbow… eviscerate, cyclone axe, throw axe, and shield bash are ALL combo finishers. Not to mention axe is one of the best weapons for filling adrenaline, so you will always have combustive shot up on switch.

Anyways I think it’s a bit of a misconception thinking of longbow as a condition weapon. Arcing arrow does MAJOR direct damage and burning doesn’t benefit that much from condition damage anyways. The six bleed stacks on pin down will never last full duration and can’t be reapplied quickly after being cleansed.

Only thing missing from axe/shield is ooc mobility imo. Still good for chasing with the cripple+stun though.

Finally impale’s torment stacks are getting majorly nerfed in the next patch, so all the more reason to switch to shield master race.

I’d really have to disagree How is putting torment and condis on someone youre otherwise pretty much unable to hit a bad thing compared to using an axe wich will be rendered completely useless in certain battles ? Play against a Proper condi warr with your current build,and you will see the difference, you will not stand a chance.A Proper player will evade all your evis,yet evading torment and continuously trying to cleans all condis,is a near impossible task.I play warr since day one of gw2,i know every build in and out.Condis are the way to go atm.Also,its about knowing When to apply What…and not randomly putting on condis that are being cleansed 2 sec later.

I play S/S LB on my war in spvp, the only build that’s ever shut me out completely was a bunker Diamond Skin Ele ( I posted about this the other day). Where I couldn’t dps the guy down fast enough to get him below 90% hp so my conditions take effect. The guy kept stacking tons of regen with healing rain and dodge rolling with evasive arcana whenever I came close to the 90% mark, was quite funny… other than that, its fairly easy to run through most classes.

dominik.9721:

öhmmm not really….

best 1vs1 sets are atm R O M axe build 15/0/25/0/30 axe sword longbow
the condi set up mace /sword , longbow 20/0/20/0/30
and at least hambow 0/0/30/10/30

any greatsword build is atm a weak in 1vs1 especially without longbow and cleaning irse….

wvw guys……

Actually…you’re wrong. Greatsword is great for 1 v 1’s, it’s a great gap closer and on top of that rush hits like a truck. You can say it’s not viable, but it’s absolutely viable in a power set. The sets you posted are condi builds and if you’re trying to use a greatsword in a condi build then you’ve gotta be pretty bad…