Guild Wars 2

Well Elite specialization seem to focus on improving areas where the class lacks or better yet, its weaknesses.

What area of gameplay is the Warrior lacking? What roles need improvement? What weakness need to be addressed?

This gives us a better idea of what the new Elite specialization could function as.

I think it’s missing the role of requiring skill to win.

Honestly, nothing in theory. We have solid power builds in the form of Greatbow, Hambow, Skullcracker, and a few others. We got a really strong Condi Build in the form of S/S + LB. We got plenty of supports with Cele + Shouts and Cele + anything hybrid.

What they do lack is the ability to be power and also bring support. MediGuard has AoE virtue buffs. Teef has Boon Stripping/Sharing and Mes has stripping and Portal and they can abuse the Z axis. Any Warrior power build is going to be mostly selfish. With Hambow you do have some Might stacking but Ele can handle that role and bring even more support.

This upcoming huge update doesn’t look likely to change that. Even with the Cele nerf we’ll probably end up running 2 Shouts and a Banner. That being said Stronghold might be more receptive to the selfish zerker playstyle.

Zefrost.3425:

I think it’s missing the role of requiring skill to win.

Yes cause there isn’t any other class that could possibly require less skill “cough ranger cough”

Zefrost.3425:

I think it’s missing the role of requiring skill to win.

please, my 1 hour necro can beat any stance warrior that is not top level.
insta fear is so hard to play lol.

and power necro? LOL that’s the easiest kitten i’ve ever played next to power ranger.

I would like a Barbarian style with Dual 2 handers!

I don’t think he warrior lack any new role, but several build need some help.

- Condition : He’s one of the best at that for PvE, but he’s lacking a bit in PvP.

- Dungeon meta : He’s in a great place as usual. With the change to trait he will be even more powerful, but also more boring to play. Nothing the specialisation can do about that.

- In roaming, the warrior is good there with decent variety in build (about the same as most profession).

- In WvW everything is fine.

- sPvP is where it start to hurt. Warrior isn’t in a bad place. He have one great build with the shoutbow and have more different good build than other profession like thief and necro. Still Shoutbow, Axebow, Hammerbow… They are different, but still feel too similar. Ideally, i would want to see a good condition build (like Double Kit Engi or Terrormancer) or a good killer build (like Power ranger or medi guardian)

Thaddeus.4891:

I don’t think he warrior lack any new role, but several build need some help.

- Condition : He’s one of the best at that for PvE, but he’s lacking a bit in PvP.

- Dungeon meta : He’s in a great place as usual. With the change to trait he will be even more powerful, but also more boring to play. Nothing the specialisation can do about that.

- In roaming, the warrior is good there with decent variety in build (about the same as most profession).

- In WvW everything is fine.

- sPvP is where it start to hurt. Warrior isn’t in a bad place. He have one great build with the shoutbow and have more different good build than other profession like thief and necro. Still Shoutbow, Axebow, Hammerbow… They are different, but still feel too similar. Ideally, i would want to see a good condition build (like Double Kit Engi or Terrormancer) or a good killer build (like Power ranger or medi guardian)

I’d say a power build (gs/lb or gs/hammer) is also pretty good, but it needs team support or some sort of a unique ability to rival medi guard.

Valik Shin.9027:

Yes cause there isn’t any other class that could possibly require less skill “cough ranger cough”

You are right, Ranger has the lowest skill cap, yet also the highest.

Valik Shin.9027:

Zefrost.3425:

I think it’s missing the role of requiring skill to win.

Yes cause there isn’t any other class that could possibly require less skill “cough ranger cough”

Ranger:
-Knowledge of which pet in which situation
-Managing pet to avoid its death
-Knowing where to place spirit(s) to avoid its death
-Learning how to play with a sword (aka a unique game mechanic that you won’t encounter in any other class)

Warrior:
-Hulk Smaaash!

Edit: Once you make a ranger, gear him up and reach 80, you will realise it’s one of the most difficult classes in order to become viable (aka get a spot in meta groups) (and yes rangers do have a spot)

It’s pretty far from what people think rangers are doing (spam RF, repeat)

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Valik Shin.9027:

Zefrost.3425:

I think it’s missing the role of requiring skill to win.

Yes cause there isn’t any other class that could possibly require less skill “cough ranger cough”

Ranger:
-Knowledge of which pet in which situation
-Managing pet to avoid its death
-Knowing where to place spirit(s) to avoid its death
-Learning how to play with a sword (aka a unique game mechanic that you won’t encounter in any other class)

Warrior:
-Hulk Smaaash!

Edit: Once you make a ranger, gear him up and reach 80, you will realise it’s one of the most difficult classes in order to become viable (aka get a spot in meta groups) (and yes rangers do have a spot)

It’s pretty far from what people think rangers are doing (spam RF, repeat)

And a good warrior will judge his party members skills to the encounter and change up his skills and traits. So yes if u have a perfect group then warrior is mindless but then so is every class short of guard. And the post I was commenting about seems directed to PvP

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Valik Shin.9027:

Zefrost.3425:

I think it’s missing the role of requiring skill to win.

Yes cause there isn’t any other class that could possibly require less skill “cough ranger cough”

Edit: Once you make a ranger, gear him up and reach 80, you will realise it’s one of the most difficult classes in order to become viable (aka get a spot in meta groups) (and yes rangers do have a spot)

It’s pretty far from what people think rangers are doing (spam RF, repeat)

Yeah must be one of the most difficult profession by far. from highest difficulty to lowest they come at 6th place or so.

Now thats actually quite difficult.
But since the nerf to turreteers they might actually take your place on the leaderboard of difficulty.

For the majority? A DPS spec.

I can fulfill w/e role needs to be with Warrior though in sPvP cause I actually care about getting better.

Warrior is lacking viable zerker builds like thieves, mesmer and guardians and is lacking in the boon removal department. I would like to have the option to remove stability and then CC the other player, like mesmers, necros and sometimes thiefs.

The main problem I see with our zerk builds is just that its very difficult to stay on target. we have to get very close and we take tons of damage in the process. once we get to the target we usually have a very short window to finish the job.

we need a dps spec,please