what are optimal stats
What are you planning on doing with your warrior?
Basic [BS] NSP/Mag
You don’t give much context. I assume you want some direct damage build in WvW, so I’d say attack and armor are good, and critical chance is a bit low.
Now, the build cannot be evaluated without elements of gameplay, and inputs relative to control abilities, condition resistance and dispell, mobility… Provide a full link to the build, with some explanations about what you expect from it and in which situations you want to use it, if you want informed feedback.
I like to take him with me everywhere I go so wvw pve dungeon or fractals you name it . I use gs and lb at the moment.
Ok I will try my best to describe a bit more:
Trait line 20/0/30/0/20 and full melandru runes
My utilities setup is berzerker stance , endure pain and dolyak Sig. I use healing Sig and sig of rage as elite.
I know there is no way to achieve a all rounder build in this game but I kinda want this to be somewhat all rounder and hence the question
20% crit chance and 60% crit damage is not good.
You need at least 60% crit chance if you want to play a crit build.
However if you want to play a hybrid build, i think 40% crit chance is enough. With Fury you get 60%.
For PvE you are building a really bad warrior. For WvW its not that bad if you are in a Zerg. A build that you can use in PvE and WvW will be bad everywhere, whatever you do. Several Choice for you :
1) Don’t give a crap. Stick with what you want and accept that you won’t have a good build for some stuff.
2) Make your build partially adaptable. For exemple, find a trait setup that work for both WvW and PvE (usually its mean half defensive, half offensive trait). And get 2 set of armor. 1 Set Soldier for WvW and 1 set Beserker for PvE.
3) Change completly your build each time (meaning changing gear and trait)
4) Level up another toons. 1 Will be your PvE main and the other will be your WvW main.
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I like to take him with me everywhere I go so wvw pve dungeon or fractals you name it . I use gs and lb at the moment.
Wrong answer.
There isn’t a build that is actually good at both because PvE and PvP are so fundamentally different.
PvE is full berserker offense. PvP is far more about survivability. You can have a build that does both poorly or two separate builds that do each thing well.
You can’t have both. Anyone saying otherwise is either ignorant or disingenuous.
Additionally, stats are only a part of your build.
Just for future reference, please don’t ever include “attack” in your stats as it has absolutely nothing to do with any form of damage calculations and as far as the playerbase knows, doesn’t affect anything in the entire game. Now on to the real question. If you plan on using the same gear/build for both PvE and WvW then make a PvE build. As a warrior you have natural defenses that can overcome a lack of defensive stats so its much easier to go pure glass and survive in ZergVZerg situations. I’ve been running my warrior build of full berserkers + scholars with 30/25/0/0/15 traits in WvW and have found it fairly easy to dominate in roaming situations. As for your build, you might want to work on that. PvE is dominated by full glass builds because nearly all damage can be negated by active defenses like dodges and reflects. Using defensive stats of any kind is just a waste with the current difficultly of dungeons/fractals.
I’ve been running my warrior build of full berserkers + scholars with 30/25/0/0/15 traits in WvW and have found it fairly easy to dominate in roaming situations.
Yeah… Not buying it. Either you’re outright lying or playing against incredibly incompetent players. Both equally likely… With that build any decent player will eat you alive.
I’ve been running my warrior build of full berserkers + scholars with 30/25/0/0/15 traits in WvW and have found it fairly easy to dominate in roaming situations.
Yeah… Not buying it. Either you’re outright lying or playing against incredibly incompetent players. Both equally likely… With that build any decent player will eat you alive.
If you can use Ma#4 knockdown and bulls rush with 100b and eviscerate its not a horrible build to roam with. Just squishy. 20k eviscerates anyone?
If you can use Ma#4 knockdown and bulls rush with 100b and eviscerate its not a horrible build to roam with. Just squishy. 20k eviscerates anyone?
20k eviscerate? On what? A full berserker upscaled?
Yeah, you have a lot of damage! You also have no survivability! You have bull’s charge! oh woopity kittening do! What decent player isn’t running a stun breaker?
What are you going to do against a “proper” warrior? ZOMG EVISCERATE! …woopity…5k… Basically a dent. Meanwhile you’re going to be eating, say, to be conservative, 2-4k damage per hammer hit.
Also, you’re running AXE in WvW? Oh lord.. What else are you running? GS? Congrats, you can kill low level upscaleds… If they’re really low level, or bad…
If you can use Ma#4 knockdown and bulls rush with 100b and eviscerate its not a horrible build to roam with. Just squishy. 20k eviscerates anyone?
Also, you’re running AXE in WvW? Oh lord.. What else are you running? GS? Congrats, you can kill low level upscaleds… If they’re really low level, or bad…
Lmao
Yeah 20k is only doable on full zerker. But you can easily get 10-15k on a “proper” warrior build. Thats more than half their health gone in a single hit.
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I’ve been running my warrior build of full berserkers + scholars with 30/25/0/0/15 traits in WvW and have found it fairly easy to dominate in roaming situations.
Yeah… Not buying it. Either you’re outright lying or playing against incredibly incompetent players. Both equally likely… With that build any decent player will eat you alive.
I said same build and armor/runes. I didn’t say anything about weapons. Swapping weapons around more than evens out the playing field. And yes, they were probably unskilled players. That being said, this was in WvW where 95% of the players are unskilled. Or it could be the fact that I have extensive experience with all classes so its considerably easier for me to counter classes that would normally be a problem. Either way, I run full glass on all classes in roaming and zerg situations and its more than doable if you pay attention.
Lmao
Yeah 20k is only doable on full zerker. But you can easily get 10-15k on a “proper” warrior build. Thats more than half their health gone in a single hit.
I’ve been hit by the “full berserker” axe warriors a lot. Cannon fodder. On non-full berserkers I don’t really remember getting hit for over 6k.
As for the video… Oh dear. First fight is hilarious. He’s completely overbuffed with foods, guard stacks, bloodlust… everything (one of the biggest cancers of WvW) vs. 2 non-buffed characters: A ranger and a staff ele… Both fairly bad players. If there are ever 2 classes/builds that are incredibly underperforming when played by mediocre players… yeah. Also, he’kittenting that ele for 4k eviscerate… So… I don’t think he’s really full berserker 30/25/0/0/15….
Moving on… Oh yeah, 7k eviscerate… ON AN UPSCALED! LOL! And the other guardian is doing Whirling Wrath at range… Ok. I’m pretty sure I get the picture: cherry picked footage displaying “l337 skillz” versus incompetents, horrible dueling builds and upscaleds… GG.
I said same build and armor/runes. I didn’t say anything about weapons. Swapping weapons around more than evens out the playing field. And yes, they were probably unskilled players. That being said, this was in WvW where 95% of the players are unskilled. Or it could be the fact that I have extensive experience with all classes so its considerably easier for me to counter classes that would normally be a problem. Either way, I run full glass on all classes in roaming and zerg situations and its more than doable if you pay attention.
That was a reply to carpboy that mentioned using both HB and eviscerate.
That said, it’s “doable” in the sense that, yeah, about 95% of WvW players are criminally bad. But that doesn’t meant that the build is good. It means that the average player is horrible. There is a series of entertaining youtube clips from some guy doing WvW roaming/duels with AN UPSCALED engineer (sir mustachio…? or something), something like, level 10 to 30, and murdering people. Same thing. It’s not that a low level engineer is a good choice for WvW, just that the bar is set so incredibly kittening low that, on average, you can get away with murder.
Those stats are fine but not great. Toughness and attack are good. Crit chance and damage aren’t. For small groups or solo drop that toughness and pick up crit chance/ dmg. 30% is ok so you have 50% with fury. If you want to do real good dmg make that crit dmg at least 75-80%. Go higher if you feel comfortable dropping toughness even more. You didn’t list HP but it really doesn’t matter. We have enough HP already. Other than that your in a decent spot. Nothing really wrong here.
If PVE then go full zerker as anything else is a waste.
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celestial. With all the buff, nerfs, more nerfs, skill changes, trait movement that has been done to warrior in the last 7 months nothing can be trusted with them now.
20% crit chance and 60% crit damage is not good.
You need at least 60% crit chance if you want to play a crit build.
However if you want to play a hybrid build, i think 40% crit chance is enough. With Fury you get 60%.
…True the crit chance is really low. But full zerker isn’t ecen 60% crit chance. people don’t generally obtain those numbers without signets, banners, Fury, Food, Sigil stacks etc. So 60% for PVE doable. But your not going to have a viable PVP build with 60% crit chance why? Becasue the sacrifices that you would need to make are sacrifices that you shouldn’t make if you want to have utility and traits and cleases and sustain. that will be viable in PVP or WvW.
In WvW I geneally use the 40-50% Crit chance base as my rule of thumb. Then you have 60-70% With Fury and even more if you decide to use food to give you more crit chance.
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Thanks for lots of constructive feedback. So I guess overall my crit chance and damage are simply too low. I am using Pvt gear with melandru rune and zerker trinkets and weapons so I really don’t know what I can do to boost my crit chance and damage further without sacrficing my toughness and power? Please help me with the proper gear setup if you don’t mind . But once again thanks so much guys
Thanks for lots of constructive feedback. So I guess overall my crit chance and damage are simply too low. I am using Pvt gear with melandru rune and zerker trinkets and weapons so I really don’t know what I can do to boost my crit chance and damage further without sacrficing my toughness and power? Please help me with the proper gear setup if you don’t mind . But once again thanks so much guys
With a 0/0/30/10/30 build use zerker weapons and trinkets, cavalier armor. For food use truffe steak and maintenance oils. Lyssa runes. Youll end up with 2.1k armor, 45% crit chance, 3k armor, and 100% crit dmg.
For your 20/0/30/20 Bow/GS build use the same gear. Youll end up with 10% less crit dmg but 200 more power