Guild Wars 2

I was thinking about trying condition build in wvw, but since I couldn’t find any I thought about something like this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAT8cjMdQfHWGCWeAnIGWCKNKC9mA/g3uCuAYB6dA-TFSFQBMS9Hdp8DAXAg3oboAHEAQqEsXPBA3s/QAAEgZOzkZZGc0je0je0j2Mn5Mn5MnZhAmsGA-w

There is no precision, I think extra toughness is not needed on warrior and expertise is a little bit useless in wvw situations because of the cleanse (maybe in 1v1 it would make difference), so I was thinking with going full carrion and try to create some synergy around it.

From arms:
Opportunist connects with Deep Strike giving extra condi dmg when applying fury, lb’s 5 and sword’s flurry will both trigger it.
Burst precision to make up for lack of precision. From what I see the 100% crit bonus applies to entire duration of a skill, so in case of lb’s burst each pulse would be a guaranteed crit applying additional on crit effects from Precise Strikes, Sigil of Earth, Rending Strikes and taking advantage of Bloodlust, apart from that you have to sum up cond dmg from burning to it. Same would apply to flurry.

From defense:
I think this one is pretty straight forward.

From discipline:
A little bit of mobility and extra damage. I was thinking berserker instead of discipline for extra dmg and stability but it doesn’t seem to matter that much in zerg against zerg scenarios. Also in theory Burst Precision should apply to Primal Burst skills, but I cannot find any information on that, could someone confirm it?

I guess berserker variant would be something like this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAT8cnMdA9dgdhAWeAElillAD5D82qAv32e7x9IAsA6dA-TFSFQBMS9HAcBAcz+DgUJYBOIAvR3QveCA6S5XAAEgZOzkZZGc0je0je0j2Mn5Mn5MnZhAmsGA-w

As for runes the scavenging one has pretty useless life steal bonuses, but gives big amount of condition damage and the 6 piece bonus itself would increase it by over a 100 depending on amount of vitality. Maybe it could be switched for undead to give extra toughness at cost of some condition damage, but I don’t think toughness would be needed.

From skills signet of fury, balanced stance for some stability, for great justice gives fury (150 condi dmg) and 3 stacks of might (additional 90 cond dmg). In berserker variant endure pain and head butt instead of balanced stance and signet of rage.

Do you think this would be viable? I was thinking about trying out s/s + longbow, but this one would lack group utility.

I also thought about similar one but with s/wh + lb and go shouts support for better group utility. Which one would be better for wvw situations?

Any input welcome. I would also like to see what other lb warriors run with to get me some ideas and understand condi warrior better as I never played it.

-headbutt over signet of rage….especially since you said this isn’t for solo roam. Really no debate here, take headbutt. Can get swiftness (not that you really need it) and fury (again not overly important since u got a hypothetical 28 constant seconds of it stashed) from allies. I guess ur burst skills have multiple ticks so 100% crit chance would apply to all those ticks? Never really considered that, seems decent if it does.
edit: just realized you aren’t running berserker line, so ignore my suggestion for now.

I personally don’t like balanced stance. Whenever I use it the enemy just eats through the 2 stability per 3 seconds it supplies…..and its horrid for stomping when you got 2-3 downed enemies by you. U are only getting swiftness out of it….tahts the only reason to take balanced stance. Just go dolyak signet….gives you 180 toughness instead of swiftness, and you WONT get knocked down unless you are boon stripped.

In terms of ur fondness for s/s. I get it. Sword-sword looks kitten, I even tried again to make it work in wvsw.
I mean this is a pretty good synopsis on what happens in gw2 when you use s/s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_CkkREzCQw&t=8s
….aka the ‘thief’ at the ending

You aren’t gonna be facing other warrriors in wvsw, your gonna be facing things jumping around, shooting u full of arrows, and stabbing you all over. Sword sword has a single block and the main attack only hits things in short melee range…..its not made for countering ranged or teleporting attacks. So basically its worthless against every class except for vanilla warrior lulz.

It has some semblance of a place in pve….although its really offset by torch. At best you can use it for 1vs1 honour duels….but even then it ain’t great.

Maybe mace/sword? lol…idk that might be interesting i might try that out tbh.

plenty of other things to pick apart for this build, but thats my main things illl suggest you look at changing.

When in doubt just take greatsword…still gonna do more for you in wvsw than sword-sword will, even though you are running condi.

If you have 2-3 downs near you you should be cleaving anyways.

Oh I just realized I assumed you have HOT? Oh well, I’m gonna function assuming you do…

Here:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAT5cnUJClkidhAWhAElilrATJH06qBvh2UbrFJAkASdA-TVSHQBA4BAQgDCAzuAAC4IAcGdDyS5HhU/JE7PgRlgBAQAm5MTmlZwRP6RP6RPazcmzcmzcmlCwu1AA-w
edit: ( i swapped in discipline line since arms hardly does anything for you with such a low crit rate)

I took ur build and changed some things to make it more viable. It looks perrrrrty awesome imo, I might even try it. Note this isn’t a meta build though, you would have to take shield instead of offhand sword for it to be even considered meta build. But meta is boring, and you don’t need it for wvsw…..better to have a more diverse and fun build and this looks perty diverse and fun if I do say so myself.

You can decide for yourself what your tier 3 berserker skill is……eternal champion or bloody roar would also be viable options. Bloody roar basically just for the taunt. And eternal champion looks great just it could potentially mess up your rousing resilience stun breaks…..
but I would definitely try eternal champion out for this build. Being able to fire your abilities while in berserk mode is really important, and your stunbreakers can be exhausted by the enemy for better or for worse at the wrong times. Whatever, eternal champion probably better now that I think about it…..lol, ya probaly go eternal champion instead of king of fires. If ur allies are giving you stability, or the enemies aren’t cc’ing the kitten out of you then just go king of fires….
Bloody roar would mainly be for killing thieves

Also feel free to use healing signet instead of defiant stance. I chose defiant stance cause you said you were doing it for groupplay. And defiant stance, asssuming you are really pro at playing warrior and reading the game, is gonna be a better choice for mitigating zerg loads of damage (wvsw). Basically its for situations where the entire enemy group is focus firing you. It assumes you have enough survivability to stay in the fights through normal situations, and gives you more ways to survive when the enemy focus fires the kitten out of you. Its like having 3 endure pains….lets put it that way. Also discourages the enemy from focus firing you…..since they kno the cd isn’t that large on this ability and they are wasting their time when you got 2 other endure pains available not to mention 2 blocks and 4 dodges….that adds up to 8 seconds+4 second +3 second…..about 15 seconds of invulnerability from infinite damage values if you chain properly.

Edit: tried build in pvp, not bad tbh (use carrion amulet)

I myself played yesterday few unranked matches with both builds from my first post and I think it might have potential but would require tweaking, I changed few things already but it still is far from perfect. It seems viable, but it is hard to say if it would be viable in ranked games as unranked is more like a training grounds imho. Stuff I noticed:

1. Adrenaline generates somewhat slow.
2. Variant with berserker trait line is not worth it in my opinion, even though on paper it looks promising in practice it doesn’t do that much difference dmg-wise. Ticks from scorched earth dmg (not condition) are around 140 dmg more than in case of combustive shot and combustive shot seems to have better coverage. Having no precision and ferocity renders the berserker trait close to useless.
3. 100% crit from burst precision triggers on burst skills and primal burst skills through entire duration and this is crazy when you go with carrion. Also removing arms trait lines strips you of that crit and related on crit effects.
4. Carrion amu seems to be pretty op on warrior as my health pool reached something around 28k and when I wasn’t focused by few people it was really hard to kill me in 1v1.

The problem with s/s is its best condi skills are 4 (OH) and burst (MH). Ideally they could rework it and combine impale with savage leap (throw your sword at enemy, jump to him to take it out) and give some new defensive skill on 4, this would make sword and board viable as well as builds with sword in oh.

What surprised me is riposte is really great skill for blocking.

I must agree with you that this is far from meta, but still it’s fun to play it Also when you run with lb and someone comes into melee range switching to s/s seems to be the last thing they expected.

I’m thinking about trying berserker and mixing in shattering blow. At the moment I’m still experimenting with utility skills. I think I also might rework it a little bit and go condi sup with shouts, many possibilities and I cannot decide myself. The only thing I want at the moment is to get rid of that f***g greatsword :P

well suit urself. Im making a condi pve warrior with bow+ mace/sword atm with trailblazer stats…..get all my conditions as close to 100% as possible without going over, and invest the rest in condi and defense (vitality, toughness, healing power even).

I was running sword/shield + mace/sword for a bit in pvp as well. It lacked the aoe and ranged relief that bow gave, but it was pretty good still. you can chain shield + ur two blocks with all ur cc for some good nail drivers. The sword berserk is by far the best part of sword MH imo. i wouldn’t dream of using sword without berserker mode for flaming furry. Sword 1, 2, 3, F1 are really not good damage dealers. Sword F2 surprised me tho with the kind of burns it ‘could’ do.