Guild Wars 2

After watching ready up episode 9 on the official gw2 twitch channel, and I noticed around 53mins in, when they were comparing runes, the lyssa rune’s effect was greatly nerfed from loosing all conditions and gaining all boons for 5seconds, to ‘’convert up to five boons into conditions’’.

This is quite bad for me, as a S/D thief I don’t have access to the blind field, thus the stability and the protection of the runes helped me cause serious damage to hammer warriors. It also helped me actually survive signet of spite. Now the S/D build might loose whatever viability it had left.

Note: this is an internal version of the feature pack, so this is surely to happen in the public version

That’s not a bad nerf. It’s probably the least they could do to balance the OP rune. Also it’s conditions to boons lol, boons to conditions would be a huge O_O.

Its one of the best upcoming changes. But I understand from your perspective as s/d thief you do not have enough survivability with out it……. oh wait…..

ArcTheFallen.7682:

That’s not a bad nerf. It’s probably the least they could do to balance the OP rune. Also it’s conditions to boons lol, boons to conditions would be a huge O_O.

^ Yes you’re right, its not that bad, but now fighting warriors are going to require like a freaking D/P or one of those disgusting Pistolwhip builds and these builds feels so static its painful! Unless I absolutely outplay them.

fantastic change,they are finally moving to the right direction,lyssa runes are now balanced.now thiefs will need to adapt and try new things they will still be in top tier

Paragon.5479:

fantastic change,they are finally moving to the right direction,lyssa runes are now balanced.now thiefs will need to adapt and try new things they will still be in top tier

I could join the cheese and play a pistol-whip thief, would you prefer me playing those?

RaZaC.1963:

Its one of the best upcoming changes. But I understand from your perspective as s/d thief you do not have enough survivability with out it……. oh wait…..

You’re quite a funny guy. Trying the build out before kittening all over it would do you good, here’s a link : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAV8YlYmaPncS4E/5Ex2jdKUeqVgmdP4q8rKA-ToAg0EFpKyVkpIZR2iGWssYXA

u can go pistol whip all day long i can easily decap u with my decap engi and also not only that i am gonna spam retalation until u run away

Phantom Master.9582:

Paragon.5479:

fantastic change,they are finally moving to the right direction,lyssa runes are now balanced.now thiefs will need to adapt and try new things they will still be in top tier

I could join the cheese and play a pistol-whip thief, would you prefer me playing those?

Dont worry pistol whip is getting nerf too XD

Paragon.5479:

u can go pistol whip all day long i can easily decap u with my decap engi and also not only that i am gonna spam retalation until u run away

Leeto.1570:

Dont worry pistol whip is getting nerf too XD

Yeah, i’m quite happy about that, it took too long. But I don’t think the nerf is enough to kick that terrible build out the meta.

If you play S/D and worry about survivability, you should stop worrying. Just use the dodges for you know, important incoming skills, instead of mindlessly spamming it

Phantom Master.9582:

RaZaC.1963:

Its one of the best upcoming changes. But I understand from your perspective as s/d thief you do not have enough survivability with out it……. oh wait…..

You’re quite a funny guy.

Thanks

Each rune set is getting a theme. The changes make sense and look balanced to me relative to the other sets we have seen on the Twitch channel.

The Lyssa nerf is fair. Personally, I’ll be glad to drop Lyssa for Traveler runes on my thief. As much as I liked the utility of Lyssa, it was imbalanced and I’m happy that there’s a good alternative to switch to.

Dahkeus.8243:

The Lyssa nerf is fair. Personally, I’ll be glad to drop Lyssa for Traveler runes on my thief. As much as I liked the utility of Lyssa, it was imbalanced and I’m happy that there’s a good alternative to switch to.

I agree, I just wish another MM Nec or hambow counter would randomly pop up!

With the Lyssa rune nerf/balance, it should grant you 5 boons that you don’t already have on you currently, rather than re-applying some not-quite-as-effective boons as others…

Phantom Master.9582:

After watching ready up episode 9 on the official gw2 twitch channel, and I noticed around 53mins in, when they were comparing runes, the lyssa rune’s effect was greatly nerfed from loosing all conditions and gaining all boons for 5seconds, to ‘’convert up to five boons into conditions’’.

This is quite bad, as a S/D thief I don’t have access to the blind field, thus the stability and the protection of the runes helped me cause serious damage to hammer warriors. It also helped me actually survive signet of spite. Now the S/D build might loose whatever viability it had left.

Note: this is an internal version of the feature pack, so this is surely to happen in the public version

The change to Lyssa runes are the best thing to happen in quite some time.

Countless

best thing to be changed in the feature patch imo

About time the insane runeset got nerfed. It’s still very strong, you know. Hambow counters shouldn’t come froma runeset that caters to a few professions like thief and warrior. Instead the hambow build/warrior needs to be looked at.

Trigr.6481:

Phantom Master.9582:

After watching ready up episode 9 on the official gw2 twitch channel, and I noticed around 53mins in, when they were comparing runes, the lyssa rune’s effect was greatly nerfed from loosing all conditions and gaining all boons for 5seconds, to ‘’convert up to five boons into conditions’’.

This is quite bad, as a S/D thief I don’t have access to the blind field, thus the stability and the protection of the runes helped me cause serious damage to hammer warriors. It also helped me actually survive signet of spite. Now the S/D build might loose whatever viability it had left.

Note: this is an internal version of the feature pack, so this is surely to happen in the public version

The change to Lyssa runes are the best thing to happen in quite some time.

Countless

I think it is the best balance change since release. It was so needed and its impact on balance should be really positive. The sustain they give warriors and thieves is utterly broken currently. To nerf them in this way seems really good.

Thieves could still run them. We will see.

seems like Anet forcing all thief to play p/d condition or d/p 30 trickery burst only viable build

Coloxeus.3480:

seems like Anet forcing all thief to play p/d condition or d/p 30 trickery burst only viable build

Cry me a river.

Anet has been forcing all elementalist into mediocrity since BWE2.

silvermember.8941:

Coloxeus.3480:

seems like Anet forcing all thief to play p/d condition or d/p 30 trickery burst only viable build

Cry me a river.

Anet has been forcing all elementalist into mediocrity since BWE2.

Agreed, basically every class has 1 build that works well in pvp and that becomes the only build that gets any development attention.

Unless you’re a warrior of course, then you have 1 signet/stance build that works with any weaponset and amulet combo you want.

Thief will still run lyssa, at least S/P thieves.

Old glass cannon thief ( hide in shadow, scholar runes) will doubtly become viable, even on trickery build, due to being so easy to focus and having no sustain.

Just my opinion anyway.

silvermember.8941:

Cry me a river.

Anet has been forcing all elementalist into mediocrity since BWE2.

Stealing a candy from someone, is worse than never giving them any to start with.

Basically removing a viable build, is worse than never giving a new viable build.

Phantom Master.9582:

silvermember.8941:

Cry me a river.

Anet has been forcing all elementalist into mediocrity since BWE2.

Stealing a candy from someone, is worse than never giving them any to start with.

Basically removing a viable build, is worse than never giving a new viable build.

whatever helps you sleep.

This is a well deserved nerf, and a very balanced way to change it.
It shouldn’t be a iWin button.
It should be when do i cleanse my abilities by using my Elite.
As for what it changes, you can do the checkup on what changes into what.

As for the rune breaking your build is just flawed, I can see plenty of thieves using other runes.

Sizer is playing S/D thief I’m sure you can see him play a proper S/D if you think you will bump into problems after the patch hits.

But who knows, from the looks of it the meta might actually shift into something different after the patch.