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Posted by: Sizer.2654

Sizer.2654

Guild wars 2 defiantly has the potential to become esports !

Guild wars 2 is the only MMO game in the world which managed to be balanced in PvP at HIGH LEVEL !!!!!!!. No other MMO game has managed to achieve this!!!
The people complaining for balance out there just need to learn how to play better or use more effiecient keybinds

The unique combat system and conquest game mode allows for a higher skill cap , more strategic/tactical decsions and mind games then any other MMO game has yet to offer.

Now to reach esports what we needs is :

1. Better youtube videos!!!!!! All the youtube videos is filled with noob players who dont make any major skillful plays or are involved in high action pact combat. These skilless videos are not entertaining enough

2.We need better camera angles when casting / streaming major tournaments. The people behind the camera angles generally dont have enough knowledge about the game to place the camera angels where it is most needed/entertaining. Having a mini dual monitor during the stream so people can see several fights occuring at the same time would be helpful

3. Most of all We need more skillful and dedicated players !!!! You wvwvw heroes out there come to SPVP its alot better practice!!!

4. “To be released at a further point in time”

5.“To be released at a further point in time”

6.“To be released at a further point in time”

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

Should I laugh now or should I save it for points 4, 5 and 6?

1) There are more buged skills and abilities then not.
2) Lag is still a major issue, long spikes leave players and even teams helpless.
3) Terrain glitches lock ppl out of maps, glitches that YOU like to show us in your streams.
4) Balance?! Rangers doing 16k dmg from 1500 distance is balanced? how much HP do you have on your “pro” EZ mode spec has?

5) what did they promise you for this? another purple weapon?

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Posted by: Levis.6137

Levis.6137

4. balance maps like skyhammer and spirit watch or remove them from ranked SoloQ arena!?

5. make a ranked and unranked teamQ/soloQ arena, so people can test stuff and loose doesn’t hurt so much!?

6. rework ladders and make teamplay (Guilds) more important!?

:P

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

Jekkt.6045

there is a lot more we would need for esports.. for example:

- tournament shoutouts. world messages stating that there is a tourney going on

- recording of high level matches so that people can rewatch them in the game.

- faster and better balance patches

- a better communication between devs and players. arenanet’s policy is poison.

- better tutorials for starting players

- better rewards / goals. these can be titles or more pvp only skins.

- a map voting system or just the removal of some infamous maps from soloQ..

- seasons with seasonal rewards

- rewards based on leaderboard ranking. top 100 get the same rewards as 90%

- better leaderboards. why are there people with 15 played matches total in top 25?

- better matchmaking. its not nice for lvl 30 players if they get matched with lvl 80
players.

- removal of passives and AI. how should new players learn to play if they get carried by AI?

and a complaint about the hero’s glorious armor: the tog should be the equivalent of the tol in which you win a legendary. the hero’s glorious armor is far from a legendary and you only get 3 pieces when you win the tournament. think about this.

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Posted by: Amityel.5324

Amityel.5324

i have to laugh loudly probably next legendary item for Sizer from ANET for this topic……cant blame him more golds more fun……oh wait!

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Posted by: Elitist.8701

Elitist.8701

GW2 can’t be Esports if there’s no teams and pvp keeps losing players everyday. Sizer, you may think there is balance in a good team but the majority of people play soloQ and balance in soloQ is truly depressing. Also, there are no good players anymore, all I see is people rush mid and win/wipe and then Zerg to points like its a hot join, and Im top 200 soloQ most of the time on NA so there must be something wrong. The game is dying and ArenaNet is doing nothing about it. Look at last few balance patches, all they really did was nerf thief into the ground and make ele god mode again. And don’t say cele ele is balanced. That’s too far from the truth. I would honestly say balance in terms of risk vs reward is the worst it’s ever been. Like, look at some of the “top eles and engies”. Have you seen Thaddeus or Skovex play? They random dodge all over the place just to blind people. That’s how disgustingly easy it is, you can waste dodges. Have you seen Hibify play, Sizer Im sure you’ll agree when I say he lacks personal skill but since there’s only like 2 other high level engies EU he seems good. ANet needs to get their act together and promote competitive pvp by not only catering to the high level players with tourneys, but also by motivating low level players to become better by addressing soloQ balance. I really enjoy this game and I hate to see most of the pvp player base ignored because top level teams can “deal with it”.

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Posted by: Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046

I would laugh if it wasn’t for top tier players allowing the lapsitting done by the people who’s lap they should be sitting on.

This world is up side down and backwards.

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Posted by: Lifestealer.4910

Lifestealer.4910

GW2 can’t be Esports if there’s no teams and pvp keeps losing players everyday. Sizer, you may think there is balance in a good team but the majority of people play soloQ and balance in soloQ is truly depressing. Also, there are no good players anymore, all I see is people rush mid and win/wipe and then Zerg to points like its a hot join, and Im top 200 soloQ most of the time on NA so there must be something wrong. The game is dying and ArenaNet is doing nothing about it. Look at last few balance patches, all they really did was nerf thief into the ground and make ele god mode again. And don’t say cele ele is balanced. That’s too far from the truth. I would honestly say balance in terms of risk vs reward is the worst it’s ever been. Like, look at some of the “top eles and engies”. Have you seen Thaddeus or Skovex play? They random dodge all over the place just to blind people. That’s how disgustingly easy it is, you can waste dodges. Have you seen Hibify play, Sizer Im sure you’ll agree when I say he lacks personal skill but since there’s only like 2 other high level engies EU he seems good. ANet needs to get their act together and promote competitive pvp by not only catering to the high level players with tourneys, but also by motivating low level players to become better by addressing soloQ balance. I really enjoy this game and I hate to see most of the pvp player base ignored because top level teams can “deal with it”.

-Teef Teef Teef Teef Champion Shadow NA

How does hibify lack skill if i may ask?.. i seen him win almost every tournament he goes into. Watching his stream too he seems to know his kitten.

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Posted by: DrLane.5248

DrLane.5248

imo game balance is the best we had since the begining , at least for conquest mode.You can play a bunker set up and still being beaten by a dps team comp ( like thief /mesmer).

ANd pls dont talk @soloQ balance when most of the players are not mastering their build/class and loose 1n1,2N2 or bigger fight that they should win if played correctly.
Then ppl dont even read map chat most of the time and do bad rotation cuz conquest mode needs communication to be played effectivly , and you can’t have a good one on soloQ.

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Posted by: KarlaGrey.5903

KarlaGrey.5903

Wat did I just read.

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Posted by: Abazigal.3679

Abazigal.3679

We need :
- in-game daily tournaments with special rewards
- better leaderboard, less volatile( i saw someone #201 on team queue with 2 wins and 18 loses, can’t explain it to myself..)

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Posted by: balmung.6217

balmung.6217

Oh d/d ele and thief arent a bit silly its my keybinds this makes sense.Good thing Eu tournament player Sizer let me know thanks man.

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Posted by: Dead Muppet.9718

Dead Muppet.9718

As for me, I find when wvw players do spvp theyre 10x more entertaining then these cookie cutter meta build spvp players who gravitate to these cheese builds that exploit maps and abilities.

Infact I hope the last remaining few spvp players that are still playing with this elitist attitude move onto a new game and take thier ‘skillful’ play with them.

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Posted by: Mister Fluffkin.7358

Mister Fluffkin.7358

I agree on the balance and game mode(both very ok for me), but totally disagree on OP´s suggestions.
Esport isnt build by streaming, esport is build by competition. And wherever esport is, streaming, competent players and all that will follow by themself. They´re like flies, what we need is the s**t to attract them.

First of, we totally lack a serious ladder. In highest ingame format(tpvp), premades are fighting randoms, how can this ever be esports? Give us a serious guild ladder for premades only!

Secondly, tournaments are plain nonsense without ingame qualifying. In the past, we forum voted an allstars team or registered quickly on external websites to compete at tournaments… 0o
Qualifying totally has to be ingame, anything else is plain nonsense!

We need a serious qualifying system(team ladder) like every sports/esporst has. Tpvp ladder for qualifiying, monthly championships for the honor and big rewards like unique titles and stuff.

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Posted by: Syndarin Eledhwen.6513

Syndarin Eledhwen.6513

7) The game would need actually developers/publisher who care about the pvp in guild wars and not looking at as a funpart like a minigame (in fact pvp playerbase is the smallest part in the game).
The last TeamQ pvp map was Temple of the Silent Storm (Release November 2012!!). Beside Custom Arena/Spectator it was the last Feature for me. I don’t call Interface/Trading Post/Runes, Sigil changes and all that Stuff as a Feature….
NOT even one Title (except QP) they integrate during over 2 years in pvp. I think to implement a new champion title a programer could change the code date from 150 wins to like 1000 wins and appoint a new name….so easy things could be done for example.

Games which are esports get a lot of support and effort. I don’t blame Anet at all, because they have too little personnel resource for the pvp part (shame on publisher they don’t see and never saw the potential).

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Posted by: Blackjack.5621

Blackjack.5621

gave me a good laugh

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Posted by: Chapell.1346

Chapell.1346

How foolish, people knew how to keybinds now, how dare they.

[Urge]
Between a master and apprentice, i would love to see the differences.

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Posted by: Belze Intilie.8436

Belze Intilie.8436

made my day (maybe the best troll ever) xD
tyvm

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Posted by: Trevor Boyer.6524

Trevor Boyer.6524

At first I wrote a wall of text
But I’ll just say this:

(A) GW2 is balanced in pvp, all modes
(B) People leave the GW2 pvp scene not due to elite players but more so the toxic oil spill community which sits and kittenes about the game, day in and day out. Honestly, GW2 pvp gets a terrible reputation before it even gets played due to this.
© GW2 e-sports needs middle man ground tournament. Right now the tournaments are catered towards the best players in the game and there is nothing wrong with that. However, not everyone can compete in this environment and it would nice to see something like Abazigal suggested “daily tournaments”, something that is realistic for casual players to participate in. It’s not even that they NEED TO WIN as much as it is they can at least participate. This would help shorten the gap between the new or casual and the e-sporters.

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Posted by: Zapion.2967

Zapion.2967

I dont think that this game is ready for esports.
With a missing option reduce visual skill effects to a minimum to not make it look like a to a game from 12 years old kids and a camera control which gives you cancer the requirements are simply not given.
Best example for the camera is skyhammer point B. Playing thief on this point is almost impossible when view distance is rubberbanding like there is no tomorrow just because you are strifing an edge. Also that distance reduce when being downed is just annyoing. At some situations you lose the overview just because of this which means the client can be the problem why you died and wasnt able to do your downed skill at the right moment. In a game which is ready for esports this is an absolute nogo.

As a native Ragnarok Online player I have very high demands on my client setup and gw2 is far far far away from satisfying me at this point.

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Posted by: laquito.5269

laquito.5269

Seems like you’ve changed quite a bit over some months, I’m just not sure if it’s for good. :S (not talking about ur skill)

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Posted by: Mrbig.8019

Mrbig.8019

Sizer go home, you’re drunk :|

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Posted by: GoogleBrandon.5073

GoogleBrandon.5073

He’s right, PvP is almost perfectly balanced on high-level – quite awesome really, every class has a role and whatnot… On high-level… screw those low-level scrubs…

What he left out is the common issue with most people and playing PvP consistently… There is no reason to do so…
The top will nearly always stay on top, and this is sometimes a bit (too) disencouraging for lower-tiered teams…

Not only that, but the only reliable way to test your strength against them is either by asking them to battle, or to join the ESL weeklies… In game, who knows what you are up against…

This game needs a better distinction in tiers and level of play, SPvP, TPvP it doesn’t matter really…
The only issue you would create by introducing a system now, is having high tiered people almost never getting a match, or constantly being teamed up against the same people… This is now somewhat apparent, but dividing your whole community in tiers would make it debatably worse…

Meh, just get another reward track to fuel the casuals, and make some nice shows of the higher tiered teams combatting for money… it is good enough…

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Posted by: Mrbig.8019

Mrbig.8019

He’s right, PvP is almost perfectly balanced on high-level – quite awesome really, every class has a role and whatnot… On high-level… screw those low-level scrubs…

What he left out is the common issue with most people and playing PvP consistently… There is no reason to do so…

The top will nearly always stay on top, and this is sometimes a bit (too) disencouraging for lower-tiered teams…

Not only that, but the only reliable way to test your strength against them is either by asking them to battle, or to join the ESL weeklies… In game, who knows what you are up against…

This game needs a better distinction in tiers and level of play, SPvP, TPvP it doesn’t matter really…
The only issue you would create by introducing a system now, is having high tiered people almost never getting a match, or constantly being teamed up against the same people… This is now somewhat apparent, but dividing your whole community in tiers would make it debatably worse…

Meh, just get another reward track to fuel the casuals, and make some nice shows of the higher tiered teams combatting for money… it is good enough…

No he’s not right at all.

People don’t play the game, even “top players” don’t play the game, they just afk in HoTM looking at their gear.

GW2 is probably the only game rewarding u for afking instead of playing,

there’s no progression,

matchmaking is absolutely terrible to the point playing just causes frustration ( in solo q due to terrible matchmaking, in team q due to top teams roflstomping pugs 90% of their queues),

no ladders,

no seasons,

no rewards,

and i could continue forever.

There’s no e-sport potential if you don’t have people playing the game, and even more if it’s THE VERY SYSTEM YOU CREATED the one discouraging people from playing.

To aggravate the issue even more, people are not getting better, they’re getting WORSE, EVERYDAY, especially new players, due to the amount of no brain builds and professions ( warrior in primis, being braindead for almost a year right now).

This game is not e-sport worthy, this game is a joke.

A joke with best combat system ever created, a totally wasted potential due to terrible devs decisions.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Personally, I agree with Sizer, even though I’m not a high end tourny player.

GW2 is definitely the most balanced MMO I’ve played.

However, while I agree that it’s often the community that holds back GW2 PvP, I would also say that the lack of game modes is partly responsible. If ANet can find a way to make a game type with a larger party size work, it would appeal to a larger range of PvPers. If they ever decide to bring back GvG (which sounds likely now) or something like HotM, I think it will be a great boon to the PvP community overall.

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Posted by: KingMango.9785

KingMango.9785

Watching my screensaver flashing to music is more appealing then watching gw2. Sometimes I really don’t know what of both I’m looking at.
Why should anybody watch it?
Even if all of these good suggestions would be in the game. What reason would somebody have to watch it?
For me this is the big point. Popularity needs some factores. First, it has to be enjoyable to look at.

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Posted by: GoogleBrandon.5073

GoogleBrandon.5073

No he’s not right at all.

People don’t play the game, even “top players” don’t play the game, they just afk in HoTM looking at their gear.

GW2 is probably the only game rewarding u for afking instead of playing,

there’s no progression,

matchmaking is absolutely terrible to the point playing just causes frustration ( in solo q due to terrible matchmaking, in team q due to top teams roflstomping pugs 90% of their queues),

no ladders,

no seasons,

no rewards,

and i could continue forever.

There’s no e-sport potential if you don’t have people playing the game, and even more if it’s THE VERY SYSTEM YOU CREATED the one discouraging people from playing.

To aggravate the issue even more, people are not getting better, they’re getting WORSE, EVERYDAY, especially new players, due to the amount of no brain builds and professions ( warrior in primis, being braindead for almost a year right now).

This game is not e-sport worthy, this game is a joke.

A joke with best combat system ever created, a totally wasted potential due to terrible devs decisions.

I should’ve made my sarcasm about “top tier balancing” more clear…
If this game is only well balanced around the top, then “we are done” right? Just become really good, and you get to touch heaven…

I like this game a lot, and would love to see it grow, but there is simply no incentive for teams to even go and play… It is sometimes awesome to see in the ESL weeklies, but the fun stops there…

If you read the rest of my post you would’ve noticed that I want to have way more in the game than there is now – which is nothing unless you get your rooster constantly pleased by being on the top… Fun for those people, not so much for those who haven’t reached that…

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Posted by: vincecontix.1264

vincecontix.1264

Contrary to what people believe gw2 is one of the most balance mmos around. I agree with sizer but we seriously need a new game mode already the conquest is already stale for those of us who have been playing the game for over 1 or 2 years. 2v2 and 3v3 type dm type stuff would breath some new life into the game.

Also I think Anet need to advertise better if they want to grow.

Edit: In game leaderboard system and better rewards for higher ranked player(well players the hold a spot with in a bracket playing a certain amount of game per week).

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Posted by: GoogleBrandon.5073

GoogleBrandon.5073

Contrary to what people believe gw2 is one of the most balance mmos around. I agree with sizer but we seriously need a new game mode already the conquest is already stale for those of us who have been playing the game for over 1 or 2 years.

Actual GvG’s within a competitive settins are being worked on, no? We’ll see how that unwraps…

Also, it needs to be less confusing to watch – hundreds of particle effects, filled with pink butterflies, random firefields, lightning and green insects with no idea from which team used it is not quite a joy to watch if you are inexperienced within the game…

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Posted by: Archaon.9524

Archaon.9524

When you que up in tn after 1 am you’re gonna get always the same team all over again (If there is another team at all) or just roflstomping pugs all night 500-<100

This is definately esports.

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Posted by: Decrypter.1785

Decrypter.1785

Sorry who is sizer ? how bout we get spvp population as no 1 dude lol #

[WM]give us in game ladder

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Posted by: crochip.2389

crochip.2389

1. Better youtube videos!!!!!! All the youtube videos is filled with noob players who dont make any major skillful plays or are involved in high action pact combat. These skilless videos are not entertaining enough

If i remember correctly, TCG promised loads of guides and videos to the community if we send you the gamescom. Perhaps lead by example before complaining?

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Posted by: Johje Holan.4607

Johje Holan.4607

This is my perspective – from the outside. I don’t play sPvP. I tried it in the beginning but didn’t continue.

What it needs to becoume eSports is a completely different design.

  1. Isn’t this game balanced around 5 player teams? Why then did they design the PvP so that you had to split up your team in order to capture 5 different points? Makes no sense.
  2. The design of splitting up your team is hard to follow when you’re watching it. Isn’t one aspect of eSports that people not playing are able to watch and follow what’s going on?

Imo what they need is to make it like GW1 GvG. Two teams attempting to capture the other sides base and kill the lord. Or something like that. Maybe even two 5-player parties per side so you could have splits.

Something that involves team play. And allowing the viewer to follow the team, not a bunch of individuals running in different directions.

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Posted by: tanztante.6532

tanztante.6532

oh, i love it, how sizer and googlebrandon seem to be the only people in here who are actually trying to make a difference, not only flaming and QQing

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Posted by: GoogleBrandon.5073

GoogleBrandon.5073

oh, i love it, how sizer and googlebrandon seem to be the only people in here who are actually trying to make a difference, not only flaming and QQing

Meh, I have only been repeating what has been said for over 2 years =/

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Posted by: law.9410

law.9410

Certain aspects of this game are pretty fun to watch but others are just boring. I don’t know if anyone caught the “1v1” cup but watching the spirit ranger fight the phantasm mesmer was pretty much the worst thing I’ve ever seen. For one thing, this game is too subtle for the average person. When someone sees someone die to condis, their gonna be like wait? why did that guy just die suddenly? Certain animations are far too subtle to be enjoyable to watch. People watching an asura evis someone to death will be like why did that little guy do so much damage with that little attack? Cooldowns tend to be low in this game and sustain is high so instead of seeing “big plays”, you see repeated plays over and over again.

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Posted by: zaxon.6819

zaxon.6819

i liked the part when the 20 people worse then sizer flamed and put him down for not being toxic. this is an example of the gw2 problem.. he is better then you for a fact.. he plays at the very top end of the game.

the reason people think the game isnt balanced is because they dont bother to learn the game and how to counter people. if they die they whine and claim the other guy is op.. there are tons of threads like that already.

its almost embarrasing that sizer comes on here being positive and this is the gw2 community response.

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Posted by: Michaeas Magister.1589

Michaeas Magister.1589

4.) Find the original GW PvP developers and get them to assist/train the current GW2 developers on how successful PvP works.

Playing SPvP in Guild Wars 2 after playing PvP in the original Guild Wars is like watching the new Star Trek movies after being a fan of the old franchise for years. They both have the same name, but the second one sucks so badly compared to the first you wonder how it ever got to use the name.

Thanks.

It’s as I have always said,
“You can get more results with a kind word and a big stick,
than you can with merely a kind word.”

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

Simple Model Extractor, Free Camera and couple more machinima options would solve problem #1.
But ANet refuses, idk, maybe free promotion way more successful than some weird GW marketing videos isn’t worth sharing couple tools.

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Posted by: Erzian.5218

Erzian.5218

We need skills and mechanics that are fun to play against at first, right now it is just frustrating sometimes especially if you are new: passive fear procs, passive stun breaks, passive burst from fire and air sigils, too many available (random) dodges, high impact instant casts like doom, steal etc, too many inconspicuous but strong skills or skills with too low casttime, turrets… the list appears to be endless.
Like pvp is fun occasionally but it gets boring or even annoying pretty fast imo (for me it is only fun because I can sit and talk to people meanwhile but tbh I could also pve with those people and would not miss anything) . If I want to put real effort into a pvp game I’d rather chose dota2/LoL/CS:GO as they are overall much better, diverse and competitive games than gw2: Better servers, less RNG, less passive play, larger player base, less mindless aoe and AI spam.

edit: no option to observe matches, no fix daily tournaments, relatively low tactical depth, very low build options – compared to its predecessor gw2 pvp is simply abysmal which is probably the reason why most top tier gw1 players had left gw2 after less than 2 months.

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

We need skills and mechanics that are fun to play against at first, right now it is just frustrating sometimes especially if you are new: passive fear procs, passive stun breaks, passive burst from fire and air sigils, too many available (random) dodges, high impact instant casts like doom, steal etc, too many inconspicuous but strong skills or skills with too low casttime, turrets… the list appears to be endless.
Like pvp is fun occasionally but it gets boring or even annoying pretty fast imo (for me it is only fun because I can sit and talk to people meanwhile but tbh I could also pve with those people and would not miss anything) . If I want to put really effort into a pvp game I’d rather chose dota2/LoL/CS:GO as they are overall much better, diverse and competitive games than gw2: Better servers, less RNG, less passive play, larger player base, less mindless aoe and AI spam.

edit: no option to observe matches, no fix daily tournaments, relatively low tactical depths, very low build options – compared to its predecessor gw2 pvp is simply abysmal which is probably the reason why most top tier gw1 players left gw2 after less than 2 months.

I agree wholeheartedly. The problem for me is that almost every class just isn’t fun to play against. Instant damage, uncouterable dodges, spammable ports, spammable dodges, spammable OP auto attacks, passive procs, passive specs with turrets, exceptionally strong skills on tiny cooldowns.

In short massive power creep has the game not fun when you play against good people who know how to exploit everything. And its not hard to exploit stuff.

All this being said, I think the game has zero esports potential because the interesting decisions dont exist. I honestly think this game is one of the least skill based games I have ever seen. It is totally mindless.

It is a casual pve game. That is why they do 95% of their dev work on living story and things. Honestly it has got to the point where its pretty sad to see people still trying to turn this esport. You could try the same with the sims or second life. But at the end of the day people trying to make an esport out of this are setting themselves up to be disappointed. The pvp is shallow beyond belief.

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Posted by: manveruppd.7601

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Too many smilies: I can’t tell if OP is being sarcastic or not!

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Posted by: Lord Hammer Hand.4815

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he gets some money out of anet what do u expect on this post.

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Posted by: sinject.4607

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there is a lot more we would need for esports.. for example:

- tournament shoutouts. world messages stating that there is a tourney going on

- recording of high level matches so that people can rewatch them in the game.

- faster and better balance patches

- a better communication between devs and players. arenanet’s policy is poison.

- better tutorials for starting players

- better rewards / goals. these can be titles or more pvp only skins.

- a map voting system or just the removal of some infamous maps from soloQ..

- seasons with seasonal rewards

- rewards based on leaderboard ranking. top 100 get the same rewards as 90%

- better leaderboards. why are there people with 15 played matches total in top 25?

- better matchmaking. its not nice for lvl 30 players if they get matched with lvl 80
players.

- removal of passives and AI. how should new players learn to play if they get carried by AI?

and a complaint about the hero’s glorious armor: the tog should be the equivalent of the tol in which you win a legendary. the hero’s glorious armor is far from a legendary and you only get 3 pieces when you win the tournament. think about this.

CALM DOWN THERE BUDDY ALL THESE GOOD SUGGESTIONS CANT BE IGNORED AT ONCE

4.) Find the original GW PvP developers and get them to assist/train the current GW2 developers on how successful PvP works.

Playing SPvP in Guild Wars 2 after playing PvP in the original Guild Wars is like watching the new Star Trek movies after being a fan of the old franchise for years. They both have the same name, but the second one sucks so badly compared to the first you wonder how it ever got to use the name.

Thanks.

people who romanticize gw1’s pvp are terribly misguided. take your nostalgia goggles off and stop pretending that gw1 didn’t have a ton of issues with it’s pvp as well, just as much if not more than gw2’s.

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Posted by: Coulter.2315

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I would tend to agree with your points Sizer and probably the best options avalilable since a really solid Observer Mode seems unworkable. PvP needs spectators to thrive – generates new interest, ups the skill level of player base and even helps in balancing (broken things being picked up by huge numbers forces the issue and ANet have to react faster – if you had 1000s of viewers watching the number of deaths by Air+Fire proc and shouting at the time of it happening this kitten would hopefully have had more attention – anyone who thinks Fire+Air is balanced needs to go check to see if they complained about Dhuumfire).

Making viewing PvP a better and more engaging experience is definitely something to support.
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Posted by: hihey.1075

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I would tend to agree with your points Sizer and probably the best options avalilable since a really solid Observer Mode seems unworkable. PvP needs spectators to thrive – generates new interest, ups the skill level of player base and even helps in balancing (broken things being picked up by huge numbers forces the issue and ANet have to react faster – if you had 1000s of viewers watching the number of deaths by Air+Fire proc and shouting at the time of it happening this kitten would hopefully have had more attention – anyone who thinks Fire+Air is balanced needs to go check to see if they complained about Dhuumfire).

Making viewing PvP a better and more engaging experience is definitely something to support.
kitten SBow.

Haha, mesmer complaining about thief sbow is so 2006 xD
In any case, Air+Fire is just one of the problems we’re facing right now.

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

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This game is not e-sport worthy, this game is a joke.

A joke with best combat system ever created, a totally wasted potential due to terrible devs decisions.

didn’t you know that devs don’t make decisions?

follow the link on my signature, and say you are sorry.

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Posted by: Zoso.8279

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i liked the part when the 20 people worse then sizer flamed and put him down for not being toxic. this is an example of the gw2 problem.. he is better then you for a fact.. he plays at the very top end of the game.

the reason people think the game isnt balanced is because they dont bother to learn the game and how to counter people. if they die they whine and claim the other guy is op.. there are tons of threads like that already.

its almost embarrasing that sizer comes on here being positive and this is the gw2 community response.

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Posted by: tanztante.6532

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This game is not e-sport worthy, this game is a joke.

A joke with best combat system ever created, a totally wasted potential due to terrible devs decisions.

didn’t you know that devs don’t make decisions?

follow the link on my signature, and say you are sorry.

these reviews are actually very, very, very, very disturbing. i suspected, that something was going on, but this actually gives me the creeps just reading it. sounds like you need a bottoms up full fledged revolution down there at arena net!

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Posted by: Tellerion.8102

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This game is not e-sport worthy, this game is a joke.

A joke with best combat system ever created, a totally wasted potential due to terrible devs decisions.

didn’t you know that devs don’t make decisions?

follow the link on my signature, and say you are sorry.

these reviews are actually very, very, very, very disturbing. i suspected, that something was going on, but this actually gives me the creeps just reading it. sounds like you need a bottoms up full fledged revolution down there at arena net!

If these reviews are legit it is indeed very disturbing.

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