Guild Wars 2

Great job, absolutely love GW2, however …nerf conditions please…. and I don’t mean a measly 10% nerf…nerf condi’s by 33% and it still would be extremely OP…now? It’s just kittened and afk-murder builds everywhere…. also stop the sharade of mesmers being UP etc…cause mesmer needs a terranerf…mesmer is srsly in a class of it’s own and completely unrivalled on smaller fights/1v1’s…stop the sharade you all know it’s true….good day

there is a reason why the “elitist” players play nothing but mesmers/thieves on duels pvp and smaller scaled fights…

Good god, what’s up with all those ellipses?
There isn’t a single period in that whole post!

you’re bashing on someones language instead of saying something to prove this wrong or whatever, says it all… condi’s and mesmers are in dire need of a nerf….hardcore

Conditions and mesmer are only powerful to new player. In top sPvP teams to not use condtion builds and only very few playing mesmer for a good reason. Conditions are very easy to remove (for many classes like warrior, guardian, ele, necro) and the damage is compared to direct damage very low.

Play a mesmer by yourself and you will see that this class has a very very hard time to be strong.

Well… since… conditions… are… very… easy… to… remove… I… would… say… that… there… is… no… need… for… any… nerf….

…when you…look at….the high tier meta… Warrior….warrior….thief….guardian…elementalist….conditions so….OP….omg….nerf….pls

Darksteel.8412:

you’re bashing on someones language instead of saying something to prove this wrong or whatever, says it all… condi’s and mesmers are in dire need of a nerf….hardcore

No. Your incorrect grammar is just terribly annoying and I can let other people come in and tell you why you’re wrong.

Conditions are OP!
Nerf mesmers! \o/

You need to learn to counter buddy

war and guard high tier….sharade!!!! war is only usefull when fully backed up by team, and as a stand alone … a complete joke vs engi/mesmer and power nec’s (maybe not condi war…but yea condi nerf) also as a stand alone guard has about 0 chance vs any class

I actually propose a giganerf. Because what’s condi removal.

Your grammar makes it hard to respect your argument.

Darksteel.8412:

there is a reason why the “elitist” players play nothing but mesmers/thieves on duels pvp and smaller scaled fights…

and this wins a conquest match how?

again the insults on grammar/language says more about you and the fact that im stating very valid if not undeniable facts about the classes mentioned and condi’s ofc… XD

ik you guys want to keep your ez mode class/builds and win like this, and don’t worry cause anet will probably not nerf it anyway, cause you know…bad players need to be able to compete as well, but that doesn’t stop me from expressing my opinion…condi builds are way way waaaay to powerfull…is my grammar so annoying, or are you annoyed by the fact I state valid points and are actually afraid of the nerf it deserves?

Darksteel.8412:

again the insults on grammar/language says more about you and the fact that im stating very valid if not undeniable facts about the classes mentioned and condi’s ofc… XD

Please with all due respect… Show me the undeniable facts about Mesmers and Condis being too OP!

Show me those facts! Up untill then, you get zero respect from me and I will still call you out on the undeniable fact that you should learn to play…

im not here for your respect, set aside your ego… youre prolly a lill small boy in rl…but oke, just play and see… powerbuilds are quite useless vs the meta condis…..few exceptions maybe….but its condi condi condi and kite away

You are absolutely right, and I think I got more rights to brag about my ego than you since I am able to counter “condi bunkers” and mesmers alike
And before you even ask, on a Thief/Warrior and funny enough Mesmer – all running power.. What do I main you ask? A necromancer – what a coincidence! I know how to counter my class!

No worries though, if you start with the personal insults and do not show any kinds of proof but just say “Omg I just got killed, therefore it is true and it should be nerfed!!!!” then I will kindly take my leave from this thread because it is contributing to nothing…

LOL. This isn’t even worthy of structured answer. The amount players still attempting to use Mesmer in high end PvP can be counted on one hand.

the proof is out there everyday all day,….power nec yea … you just said it urself m8…. as i said before….few exceptions…u just named/played one

The… only… necros… and… mesmers… that… are… really… threatening… are… the… power… ones.

We should get some kind of BINGO for sPvP forum aswell

Kordash.2197:

We should get some kind of BINGO for sPvP forum aswell

Too easy… It can be summed up with one line:

“Oh My God Anet, I just got killed/lost by/to [insert something] and now I want it nerfed!”

What this and the profession balance subsection needs is a format for complaints…

You seem to be misinformed on a few things.

1. Capitalization and punctuation: These are very important for discerning when you have completed a thought and are transitioning to the next one. The next thought should be related, but it is still a distinct entity and should be treated as such. They also help organize your thoughts in a presentable way for other people to understand them.

2. Grammar: Jumbling words together does not make for an understandable thought. Structuring your sentences properly helps other people in identifying your ideas and prevents misunderstandings.

3. Spelling: Organizing your words properly does not mean a thing unless others know what your words are. Correct spelling means other can read exactly what it is you are trying to say. For example, it is spelled “charade” not “sharade.”

TLDR: Until you present your arguments properly, you will always be mocked because the hairball my cat just threw up is a more understandable argument.

Condition/passive play is nasty and unfortunate, whatever the class/build – but I have no idea the direction in order to solve the problem without making condition builds obsolete again.

I agree, lets nerf conditions and thieves.
That’ll show the mesmers who’s boss.

Curunen totally said it right there,

Darksteel.8412:

Curunen totally said it right there,

Yes all hail our new lord and saviors the unranked Darksteel and Curunen.

No seriously do you guys even play pvp in any game mode? :/

The PVE Profession balance Forum is over there
And the Open World PVE against 2 other servers forum is also not here.

The only class with such Noskillrequiredspam2win condition application that it needs to be looked at is Engineer with Incindiery powder (How Dhuumfire + is still in the game is beyond me)

With Ele back in the meta most teams run Guard/War/Ele/Thief/Something. Apart from Thief all these classes have a silly ammount of cleanses for themselves and for everybody arround them.

Condi builds are barely even viable on higher level now. Reading the forums makes me sad.

Conditions need a buff if anything, or make it harder to remove them. Its rare you see them in arena as they are just not very good. Necro can do it a little, but thieves and mesmer that use those types of build tend to do badly. Far to defensive with no real purpose.

Darnis.4056:

Darksteel.8412:

Curunen totally said it right there,

Yes all hail our new lord and saviors the unranked Darksteel and Curunen.

No seriously do you guys even play pvp in any game mode? :/

The PVE Profession balance Forum is over there
And the Open World PVE against 2 other servers forum is also not here.

The only class with such Noskillrequiredspam2win condition application that it needs to be looked at is Engineer with Incindiery powder (How Dhuumfire + is still in the game is beyond me)

Don’t lump me in with that please – all I said was that condition/passive play is not nice to play against – hardly complaining in the same vein as the OP.

Edit: on rereading that I should add – what? In terms of general fighting (putting aside organised team play and conquest nonsense) what about PU condition mesmer, condition thief, condition necros, even kitten condition warriors? Don’t tell me they are useless in a straight up unorganised fight.

PU Mesmers, Condition Thief, and Straight up Condition Warrior are irrelevant 1v1 builds only used on duel servers. O_o

Evis/Longbow Half Condie warrior is strong because of Burst potential+Point control+1v1 Ability.

There’s like one guy playing condi necro in high end play still.

well, fact is…I just stated something and I got alot of rage and hatred/insults….lmao this says ALOT about you guys and not me!! Proving once more I’m right..otherwise you would not invest the time etc to reply in a way you have been doing condi’s are extremely OP atm and passive/afk gaming is being rewarded alot more than active play builds…aka power…have fun lol

Darnis.4056:

PU Mesmers, Condition Thief, and Straight up Condition Warrior are irrelevant 1v1 builds only used on duel servers. O_o

Evis/Longbow Half Condie warrior is strong because of Burst potential+Point control+1v1 Ability.

There’s like one guy playing condi necro in high end play still.

I don’t personally view them as irrelevant – maybe because I value 1v1 or 1vX fighting more than conquest/team play (I don’t play tpvp because like other players I don’t like conquest much). Yes I know that is kind of a stupid viewpoint when the entire gamemode is against playing like that – but I’ll make do until we get some new mode.

Yes, maybe this is a general comment about fighting other players in the game – more suited to dueling and wvw.

If you end up 1v1ing one of those condition builds/classes on a point, it will likely be a hard fight – disregarding capping/decapping the point.

Well, When the game is going to be balanced based on 1v1 rather then team fights point control and rotation ability, then these builds will be relevant until then however; 1v1 Builds are pretty much irrelevant;

@Darksteel if you feel “Unranked” is an insult you’re wrong, I’m just stating a fact that you have not even begun experiencing low-mid tier play.

lol, you don’t know that in fact my statements are in fact very accurate…also I never claimed to be “pro” at button bashing, just noticed that some classes/builds/specs are way out of place compared to others, this is pure and utter facts, and instead of jumping on the bandwagon like the rest does…I rather say what is actually the case

I’m just few 0,xx% below 50% win percentage in solo and team arena’s. Now I know that’s not toptier ranked player stats etc…but than again I did have to deal with a bunch of afker’s/dc’s etc taking this into account I don’t think it’s bad at all…also I have rank 80 pvp but for me it is a game….however I would still like the game to be somewhat balanced and atm XD it’s farrrrrrrr from balanced and again, passive gameplay (condibuild) is alot more rewarded thn active gameplay (aka powerbuild)now you can hate insult etc all you like about ranks/ladders etc (wich is heavily exploited system anyway) condi’s are in dire need of a nerf!!! And not a measly 10% nerf….it needs a hardcore dmge reduction nerf to the bone

Darksteel.8412:

it’s farrrrrrrr from balanced and again, passive gameplay (condibuild) is alot more rewarded thn active gameplay (aka powerbuild)

okay, i’ll bite, kid: please explain what exactly makes a condi-build passive and a powerbuild active.

you realy fail to see that? how many skills in game are massive condi spam and ranged….once applied you can kite/afk for life…once they remove it (wich is rly hard for some aka cleansing ire try cleansing ire on immob/blind/chill/cripple unless you wield a bow wich is condi build also) you just do it again, while a powerbuild requires you to be constantly on your foe….otherwise no dmge especially when melee! True story right here

zerker stance….a whopping 8 sec…yea that will win the war…..nope it doesn’t it just postpones the exection

Darksteel.8412:

Proving once more I’m right..otherwise you would not invest the time etc to reply in a way you have been doing

Darksteel vs. the Guild Wars 2 Community in HD

If you were always a decent player and not the cause for your team’s loss, then you should have kitten .5% win rate.

9 possible chances for a bad player to lose the game
4 chances on your team
5 on their team
5/9 = 55.5%

Since you aren’t even above 50% win/loss it is clear that you are a liability to your team sometimes.

Darksteel.8412:

im not here for your respect, set aside your ego… youre prolly a lill small boy in rl…but oke, just play and see… powerbuilds are quite useless vs the meta condis…..few exceptions maybe….but its condi condi condi and kite away

Strength runes with sig of air+fire or swap one for battle has made power/hybrid build more than viable at high lvl of play there aren’t many condi builds. There are more bunkers and powerbuilds for a reason.

Darksteel.8412:

there is a reason why the “elitist” players play nothing but mesmers/thieves on duels pvp and smaller scaled fights…

Thats not part of the conquest mode, yes a mesmer build to duel(pu/condi?) will kill just about anything but the same type of mesmer won’t be as useful in a proper soloQ teamQ match.

Chaith.8256:

Darksteel.8412:

Proving once more I’m right..otherwise you would not invest the time etc to reply in a way you have been doing

Darksteel vs. the Guild Wars 2 Community in HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY

I see I was not the only one who thought of this :/ too bad I couldnt find the video..

If they are going to be nerfed, keep the nerf in PvP please. Conditions already suck enough in PvE.

Chaith.8256:

Darksteel.8412:

Proving once more I’m right..otherwise you would not invest the time etc to reply in a way you have been doing

Darksteel vs. the Guild Wars 2 Community in HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY

I am bleeding… making me the victor…

We have purposely trained him wrong… as a joke.

LMAO.