Guild Wars 2

Could we get a score update for Tier 4?

Also @YB: I haven’t played Ehmry Bay in over a month, and back then they were significantly lower in the tiers. What are your impressions of them in this matchup?

Ebay can put up a good fight at times however I think that they have the out-manned buff more often than Yak’s Bend does. I am disappointed to see multiple occasions of some Ebay hacking (flying, etc.) going on but I am sure that is not representative of the server. The rest of the fighting has been decent though.

7 of us Yaks took a couple flame rams to Ebay’s Keep last night in EB and knocked the gate down without anyone noticing and took it without any opposition. As exciting as it was, I was disappointed that there were no defenders which really makes the whole achievement kind of lackluster.

I hope Anet comes up with a solution for those servers that have lower wvw populations during the different times of the day/night. Yak’s Bend has certainly been in the same situation when facing larger population opponents.

Kerithlan.1659:

Could we get a score update for Tier 4?

Also @YB: I haven’t played Ehmry Bay in over a month, and back then they were significantly lower in the tiers. What are your impressions of them in this matchup?

Persistent when it come to trebbing stuff, they get very very focused when defending – so much so – they will defend a tower and lose everything else on a map. Predictable when on offence but throws serious numbers when they do. Individually – decent pvpers – maybe a few too many glasscannons.

Thank you so much for that downed state fight, EB thief. I’m still giggling.

Bunzy.8674:

Nut.4713:

dreztina.4820:

I hope Bunzy keeps talking kitten. Maybe eventually people will get sick of it and actually put together a competitive group that can put up a challenging fight.

Not likely, and those of us who already know Bunzy wouldn’t go looking to fight him for a challenge, we already know him for an average player. It’s not like this is the first game he’s trolled. You can probably head to the RIFT forums and search for Bunzy if you want a good laugh. It was a lot more entertaining having him around in RIFT though. There, you knew who you were fighting and it was easy to call out the trolls and liars. Plus you could actually do a bit of trash talk on the forums without heavy handed moderators filtering out all that isn’t sunshine and rose petals. Here he’s just kind of annoying since you don’t usually know who you’re fighting, and calling people out on the boards just gets deleted by mods.

You are so hilarious you sit in your no name guild talking trash about players that dominate everyone else. If you wanna talk smack you need to back it up, if anyone wants to challenge me they are free to do so, i will quickly show them why i have my reputation of being one of the best!

Either man up and come at me or sit back down in your corner.

Do you have a youtube account or something?

I am learning to play a d/d elementalist, and I have followed two other FA d/d ele’s youtubes to see what I can learn. I’m nowhere good as them (I can’t do 8 vs 1 for 6 minutes or something crazy) but I am slowly learning. I would appreciate having another person to follow! Thx

I actually wasn’t aware he recently transferred from Sorrow’s Furnace which explains part of why he’s been making an effort to troll my guild. I do find it funny how he picks target guilds to get reactions from and just keeps at it in hopes of an angry response.

Separating his posts from the other members of Maguuma have made it a lot more relevant and respectable though. As I’ve mentioned before in our own forums, Maguuma has a lot of formidable guilds dedicated to supporting their server and each other on their mumble. I never known any of them to talk trash excessively, nor does it really matter; you just start to not take a server seriously and assume they’re full of clowns throwing random challenges to duel.

Bunzy.8674:

Nut.4713:

dreztina.4820:

I hope Bunzy keeps talking kitten. Maybe eventually people will get sick of it and actually put together a competitive group that can put up a challenging fight.

Not likely, and those of us who already know Bunzy wouldn’t go looking to fight him for a challenge, we already know him for an average player. It’s not like this is the first game he’s trolled. You can probably head to the RIFT forums and search for Bunzy if you want a good laugh. It was a lot more entertaining having him around in RIFT though. There, you knew who you were fighting and it was easy to call out the trolls and liars. Plus you could actually do a bit of trash talk on the forums without heavy handed moderators filtering out all that isn’t sunshine and rose petals. Here he’s just kind of annoying since you don’t usually know who you’re fighting, and calling people out on the boards just gets deleted by mods.

You are so hilarious you sit in your no name guild talking trash about players that dominate everyone else. If you wanna talk smack you need to back it up, if anyone wants to challenge me they are free to do so, i will quickly show them why i have my reputation of being one of the best!

Either man up and come at me or sit back down in your corner.

^

Someone is going hard in the paint lol….

My feeling is that in this WvW format roaming should be about killing in strategic locations, not just killing for the sake of killing. One need not attack an objective directly to weaken it — destroy reinforcements heading to it or simply redirect them and the objective will be taken with greater ease. A good roamer in this game should be reading the map and understanding the current team goal and then placing themselves where they will be most effective.

As far as a measure of skill in this game, I consider individual actions rather than builds. In a game like this, where there is an emphasis on team composition and objective play, you are bound to have individual builds which directly counter other builds. A switch of a utility skill could mean the difference between laughing off an encounter and struggling with it. This is why I measure good players by their ability to respond to things in an appropriate manner rather than who gets the loot bag.

Although I havn’t seen too many roamers from Yaks Bend, I have seen plenty of skilled players.

dreztina.4820:

Edit: Oh and just to keep the drama going, every good fight I’ve had so far in the past week and some has been with EB. Still waiting for someone from Yak’s to actually put up a fight. I watched a sword ranger duel a bit and he did pretty well, but it’s hard to excel with a ranger.

/wave

I think that was me messing around with you guys late one night in YBBL. Good times.

BTW, Sword + Dagger + Beastmastery spec (0/0/30/10/30) + mostly PVT gear = a strong, durable Ranger with a powerful pet

Perhaps not as strong as Thief or D/D Ele, but far from weak.

YB has its share of skilled players. I’m not sure why you haven’t run into them.

For me, the highlight of WvW is roaming with a small, organized group. You can accomplish quite a bit sometimes. I was in a 5-man last night capping several camps and a tower. Great fun, with plenty of small-scale action.

-Sakae, 80 Ranger of Yak’s Bend

Rough night for EBay.

Please remember to keep this thread on topic and the discussion in a friendly and respectful tone.

Adaneshade.2409:

Was that thief/ele from [BP] guild? Cause we fought a 2v2 vs 2 eles that we weren’t sure we’d ever be able to take down. You guys are pro.

Ya you guys were great. It really showed me how bad I am at group fights (I’m solo 90% of the time). I was playing them over in my head afterwards and realized that we (Stormgoddess was the other ele) were both playing like solos who happened to be in the same area rather than an actual duo. I was really impressed by how coordinated you two were and how you were helping each other out. I wanted to go back and fight you guys again but my internet died, and by the time I got back in you’d moved on.

Boreal.9826:

/wave

I think that was me messing around with you guys late one night in YBBL. Good times.

BTW, Sword + Dagger + Beastmastery spec (0/0/30/10/30) + mostly PVT gear = a strong, durable Ranger with a powerful pet

Perhaps not as strong as Thief or D/D Ele, but far from weak.

YB has its share of skilled players. I’m not sure why you haven’t run into them.

For me, the highlight of WvW is roaming with a small, organized group. You can accomplish quite a bit sometimes. I was in a 5-man last night capping several camps and a tower. Great fun, with plenty of small-scale action.

-Sakae, 80 Ranger of Yak’s Bend

Ya, I was definitely impressed about what you were able to do as a ranger, but still, it’s hard to go up against the sheer power of thief/ele/mesmer.

I’ll try running around YB borderlands more and see if I can find any good fights. So far, even when I’m in YB the good fights have come from EB, but you never know, maybe I’ve just had bad luck.

edit: /Sigh.. first run in Yak’s, four people chase me for well over five minutes to get the kill. Should have just left but kept hoping some would stop chasing, but nope. This is why I tend to avoid YB, all they do is chase you forever with a massive number advantage, or just run away if it’s even.

Moderator.9532:

Please remember to keep this thread on topic and the discussion in a friendly and respectful tone.

I guess I will take a break from forums until next match up….

but you owe me

Bunzy.8674:

Luzano.6983:

Bunzy.8674:

Jamaz.9837:

Thread cliffnotes

Maguuma: Yak does nothing but zerg.
Yak: No we don’t.
Maguuma: Please for the love of god respect our elementalists and thieves.
Ehmry: I hate Maguuma.

Maguuma and Ehmry Bay are like brothers!
We don’t hate each other, its a love/hate relationship.
Apart from SM and Guam I have no problem with anyone from Ebay.

Also to people saying they can’t find us, you might have to leave your spawn point once in awhile.

Lol, why don’t you like [Guam]?

A bunch of zerglings that mock people when they have the 10:1 number ratio but if you ever catch them with equal numbers they are the first to run away.

They are lucky I wasn’t recording when they sent 10-12 people after 2 of us, it would of made a very funny video.

The most people we’ve ever had from [Guam] step foot inside wvw is 6 haha and that’s being generous. I’m always in WvW, and it’s usually just 2 of us.

“THIS IS WvW and I demand a fair fight 5v5, 2v2, mano a mano but don’t /emote me pls.” – Bunzy 2012

Hats off to the lone YB treb in Stonemist pounding on Ogrewatch last night (Oceanic time). Even after two resets from the wall and door upgrades, you just kept knocking.

Also, Mag’s tenacity during Oceanic time is amazing. Outmanned and able to cap Veloka, Ogrewatch and Pangloss within six minutes. Bravo.

Finally, to the bald Norn Mesmer (Sword+Pistol/Staff) from Mag, you are good. Going to have to find a solution to you.

dreztina.4820:

Adaneshade.2409:

Was that thief/ele from [BP] guild? Cause we fought a 2v2 vs 2 eles that we weren’t sure we’d ever be able to take down. You guys are pro.

Ya you guys were great. It really showed me how bad I am at group fights (I’m solo 90% of the time). I was playing them over in my head afterwards and realized that we (Stormgoddess was the other ele) were both playing like solos who happened to be in the same area rather than an actual duo. I was really impressed by how coordinated you two were and how you were helping each other out. I wanted to go back and fight you guys again but my internet died, and by the time I got back in you’d moved on.

Boreal.9826:

/wave

I think that was me messing around with you guys late one night in YBBL. Good times.

BTW, Sword + Dagger + Beastmastery spec (0/0/30/10/30) + mostly PVT gear = a strong, durable Ranger with a powerful pet

Perhaps not as strong as Thief or D/D Ele, but far from weak.

YB has its share of skilled players. I’m not sure why you haven’t run into them.

For me, the highlight of WvW is roaming with a small, organized group. You can accomplish quite a bit sometimes. I was in a 5-man last night capping several camps and a tower. Great fun, with plenty of small-scale action.

-Sakae, 80 Ranger of Yak’s Bend

Ya, I was definitely impressed about what you were able to do as a ranger, but still, it’s hard to go up against the sheer power of thief/ele/mesmer.

I’ll try running around YB borderlands more and see if I can find any good fights. So far, even when I’m in YB the good fights have come from EB, but you never know, maybe I’ve just had bad luck.

edit: /Sigh.. first run in Yak’s, four people chase me for well over five minutes to get the kill. Should have just left but kept hoping some would stop chasing, but nope. This is why I tend to avoid YB, all they do is chase you forever with a massive number advantage, or just run away if it’s even.

One does not merely walk into YBBL…

dreztina.4820:

Adaneshade.2409:

Was that thief/ele from [BP] guild? Cause we fought a 2v2 vs 2 eles that we weren’t sure we’d ever be able to take down. You guys are pro.

Ya you guys were great. It really showed me how bad I am at group fights (I’m solo 90% of the time). I was playing them over in my head afterwards and realized that we (Stormgoddess was the other ele) were both playing like solos who happened to be in the same area rather than an actual duo. I was really impressed by how coordinated you two were and how you were helping each other out. I wanted to go back and fight you guys again but my internet died, and by the time I got back in you’d moved on.

Boreal.9826:

/wave

I think that was me messing around with you guys late one night in YBBL. Good times.

BTW, Sword + Dagger + Beastmastery spec (0/0/30/10/30) + mostly PVT gear = a strong, durable Ranger with a powerful pet

Perhaps not as strong as Thief or D/D Ele, but far from weak.

YB has its share of skilled players. I’m not sure why you haven’t run into them.

For me, the highlight of WvW is roaming with a small, organized group. You can accomplish quite a bit sometimes. I was in a 5-man last night capping several camps and a tower. Great fun, with plenty of small-scale action.

-Sakae, 80 Ranger of Yak’s Bend

Ya, I was definitely impressed about what you were able to do as a ranger, but still, it’s hard to go up against the sheer power of thief/ele/mesmer.

I’ll try running around YB borderlands more and see if I can find any good fights. So far, even when I’m in YB the good fights have come from EB, but you never know, maybe I’ve just had bad luck.

edit: /Sigh.. first run in Yak’s, four people chase me for well over five minutes to get the kill. Should have just left but kept hoping some would stop chasing, but nope. This is why I tend to avoid YB, all they do is chase you forever with a massive number advantage, or just run away if it’s even.

Usually if you wanna find skirmishes with people from a certain server, you go to the other borderlands, not their home borderland. For example, as a YB players, if I want to fight people from MG I go to EB land, since MG spawn is right next to YB spawn. I had my share of groups insisting to chase me, but some decent duels here in there. Problem is some people only see things from their own perspective….especially a certain poster on here.

I would offer to 1v1 that certain poster, but I’ve known this kind of loud smack talking attitude that some gamers have. If you take up their challenge there are two paths; you win and they make excuses and insist on a rematch for countless reason until they can beat you or until you say you dont want to rematch so they can call you a coward, or you lose and they show no respect or sportsmanship and tell you you suck no matter how close the match up is. They are only after talking crap and boosting their ego rather than challenge.

Meh, done with Yak’s. It’s just a zerg server. Both in numbers and mentality. I was willing to give ’em another shot, but ya.

dreztina.4820:

Meh, done with Yak’s. It’s just a zerg server. Both in numbers and mentality. I was willing to give ’em another shot, but ya.

Then rally your server up and run with a grp, and not solo like most of your D/D ele’s seem to do.

Calling Yak’s Bend a “Zerg server” is hilarious.

Yak’s definitely isn’t a zerg server. SoS and CD are zerg servers. You’ll never see a group smaller than 50.

dreztina.4820:

Meh, done with Yak’s. It’s just a zerg server. Both in numbers and mentality. I was willing to give ’em another shot, but ya.

I’m gonna be honest. The only time I ever see Mags are when they’re buried in groups, and the only time I don’t see Mag zerging is when they go across the map, ignore multiple YB objectives, and poke EB in the back when they’ve already got their hands full trying to beat off YB. When Mags have anything even close to pariety in numbers, they run away.

Now, I’ll give your server (and you) the benefit of the doubt and not assume that every Mag is a cowardly, bad-mannered cheater, even though that’s what I see.

Maybe you could pretend that YB didn’t just get where they were because of numbers and that they actually have quite a few fun individuals that, say, play to win instead of, I dunno, playing so someone else loses?

Just a thought.

Problem with MG is they can’t work as a team that well, or a good number of them, and thus they want to play by their own rules and don’t realize that 95% of the yaks population isn’t interested in dueling and they are interested in objectives and big battles and such, and that includes our small groups as well. But no you have to abide by our rules or you’re a zerg server.

Is it just me or did someone from Crystal Desert just call Maguuma a zerg server?

saiyr.3071:

Is it just me or did someone from Crystal Desert just call Maguuma a zerg server?

I believe that did in fact happen.
Fantastically, the post directly below it says we only run around solo and gank players.

So like, which is it. Ya’ll should make up your minds.

Ekove.4586:

Problem with MG is they can’t work as a team that well, or a good number of them, and thus they want to play by their own rules and don’t realize that 95% of the yaks population isn’t interested in dueling and they are interested in objectives and big battles and such, and that includes our small groups as well. But no you have to abide by our rules or you’re a zerg server.

Your categorical labeling of an entire server based on the statements of a mere handful is no better than theirs. 95% of Maguuma isn’t interested in duels either. Some of us do (not me because I am terribad), some of us like fight club, some of us will let duels take place if they see them, but we don’t as a whole server seek them out.

saiyr.3071:

Ekove.4586:

Problem with MG is they can’t work as a team that well, or a good number of them, and thus they want to play by their own rules and don’t realize that 95% of the yaks population isn’t interested in dueling and they are interested in objectives and big battles and such, and that includes our small groups as well. But no you have to abide by our rules or you’re a zerg server.

Your categorical labeling of an entire server based on the statements of a mere handful is no better than theirs. 95% of Maguuma isn’t interested in duels either. Some of us do (not me because I am terribad), some of us like fight club, some of us will let duels take place if they see them, but we don’t as a whole server seek them out.

Sadly it is hard not categorize a server as anything other than what it’s vocal members make it out to be. I am sure many of your players are interested in objectives, but they are clearly not representing your servers as your roamers are. And I dont have anything against roaming, I like it, and I’ll admit that YB is not the best at it because it is not our thing. But So far most of your active forum members talk about nothing other than roaming or how you either do it or you’re a zerg server.

dreztina.4820:

edit: /Sigh.. first run in Yak’s, four people chase me for well over five minutes to get the kill. Should have just left but kept hoping some would stop chasing, but nope. This is why I tend to avoid YB, all they do is chase you forever with a massive number advantage, or just run away if it’s even.

Yeah, must be tough fighting those dirty yaks. Mag and ebay are so noble, never fight with larger numbers and never chase.

I realize it is not “hard” to do so, I am saying it is not correct in the slightest. But if you wish to continue making assumptions as such, feel free. I have nothing else to say about that.

I’m not looking for duels; I’m looking for someone who can put up a fight. I’ve been running around a week and a half in this matchup, and I’ve seen a ton of Maguuma out solo/small group, and I’ve seen a ton of EB doing the same, but Yak’s? One person. You can try to say that doesn’t mean everyone on YB is a bad zerger, but at the very least it means the proportion of good players from YB is so low that actually finding one is like looking for a needle in a very green, very large haystack.

But hey, on the bright side, I did run into an elementalist from YB that was pretty damned tough. I almost had to use my elite, and that doesn’t happen often 1v1.

saiyr.3071:

I realize it is not “hard” to do so, I am saying it is not correct in the slightest. But if you wish to continue making assumptions as such, feel free. I have nothing else to say about that.

You can always play that card, and it is easy. It is a natural function of the human brain to categorize thing, despite how many individuals, including me, try to act above it sometimes. Now I wont use the excuse the MG posters have been generalizing that YB is a zerg server with bad duelers. However, in my defense, my posts are directed at those members, the ones active on these forums, who claim that MG is mostly about roaming and dueling. If there’s someone from MG who’d present their server as otherwise, I will address their posts accordingly. I am well aware though that things are never absolute, just can’t help being human and categorizing.

Maguuma isn’t “mostly about” roaming, nor is any other server. The vast majority of every server is just zergers who couldn’t care less about playing well. It’s comparisons of very small percents. Like EB/Maguuma might have 2-3% who roam, and YB has like .05%.

I feel like there’s a middle ground between “zerging” and “1v1” that we’re missing here. Just sayin.

dreztina.4820:

I’m not looking for duels; I’m looking for someone who can put up a fight. I’ve been running around a week and a half in this matchup, and I’ve seen a ton of Maguuma out solo/small group, and I’ve seen a ton of EB doing the same, but Yak’s? One person. You can try to say that doesn’t mean everyone on YB is a bad zerger, but at the very least it means the proportion of good players from YB is so low that actually finding one is like looking for a needle in a very green, very large haystack.

But hey, on the bright side, I did run into an elementalist from YB that was pretty damned tough. I almost had to use my elite, and that doesn’t happen often 1v1.

Well, you view it that way since roaming and dueling is probably your standard. See, just a couple of minutes ago, a handful of MG (varying between 3-5) were holding the YB spawn at EB borderlands against 5-8 people at the time pretty well, and getting a handful of kills. By your standard that makes YB look like a zerg server and that’s why they’re winning. On the other hand, the other 15 YB players on EB bordrlands were at the bay defending against 30-40 EB players for over an hour. So, by that standard, how can YB be a zerg server? As I said earlier, YB doesn’t have many good roamers/duelers, but YB is pretty damn good with objectives and that’s the kind of fighting they can win outmanned and why many of our past opponents consider us the opposite of a zerg server.

And are you the elementalist from AoN? and is that the same guild from Warhammer online?

dreztina.4820:

Maguuma isn’t “mostly about” roaming, nor is any other server. The vast majority of every server is just zergers who couldn’t care less about playing well. It’s comparisons of very small percents. Like EB/Maguuma might have 2-3% who roam, and YB has like .05%.

Are there any other statistics you’d care to make up?

saiyr.3071:

I feel like there’s a middle ground between “zerging” and “1v1” that we’re missing here. Just sayin.

Zerging is a mentality, not a number.

Ekove.4586:

And are you the elementalist from AoN? and is that the same guild from Warhammer online?

Yes I am. I don’t know if it’s the WAR guild; I just joined like a week ago.

Nut.4713:

dreztina.4820:

Maguuma isn’t “mostly about” roaming, nor is any other server. The vast majority of every server is just zergers who couldn’t care less about playing well. It’s comparisons of very small percents. Like EB/Maguuma might have 2-3% who roam, and YB has like .05%.

Are there any other statistics you’d care to make up?

I didn’t say those were exact numbers. It was just an example that the number of roamers is very small regardless of server.

dreztina.4820:

I’m not looking for duels; I’m looking for someone who can put up a fight. I’ve been running around a week and a half in this matchup, and I’ve seen a ton of Maguuma out solo/small group, and I’ve seen a ton of EB doing the same, but Yak’s? One person. You can try to say that doesn’t mean everyone on YB is a bad zerger, but at the very least it means the proportion of good players from YB is so low that actually finding one is like looking for a needle in a very green, very large haystack.

But hey, on the bright side, I did run into an elementalist from YB that was pretty damned tough. I almost had to use my elite, and that doesn’t happen often 1v1.

While I understand where your coming from, most of Yak’s tend to actually play for objectives and at least “try” to be organized. That means following the commanders, getting supplies/repairing and building siege and taking objectives. We tend to be that way because of how we were outnumbered so much we had to work together with fewer numbers to take on much bigger groups.

So you see, its doesn’t mean we are a “bad zerg server” it means we actually are organize, efficient and most of us try to follow the strategy our commanders are giving us, not out solo roaming.

Now granted, I do enjoy going with a few others and flipping supply camps and roaming sometimes, but I also try to help the bigger picture and work the entire map for the servers benefit.

Score update for you unbelievable sperglords:

dreztina.4820:

Ekove.4586:

And are you the elementalist from AoN? and is that the same guild from Warhammer online?

Yes I am. I don’t know if it’s the WAR guild; I just joined like a week ago.

Ah, well I was curious about that. It’s probably the same guild if they have those extra high requirements to join, unless they changed that philosophy.

I was probably the elementalist (human female with redhair) you dueled, since I noticed you didn’t use an elite. Was a pretty good fight, though I didn’t have my PvP set up to be honest, I just came back from a dungeon and had PvE utility skills and some magic find gear (that’s why I casted that random earth elemental). We had somewhat of a rematch that went better for me right after, until some people decided to interfere -.-

Though well played if that was me you were talking about.

Ekove.4586:

saiyr.3071:

I realize it is not “hard” to do so, I am saying it is not correct in the slightest. But if you wish to continue making assumptions as such, feel free. I have nothing else to say about that.

You can always play that card, and it is easy. It is a natural function of the human brain to categorize thing, despite how many individuals, including me, try to act above it sometimes. Now I wont use the excuse the MG posters have been generalizing that YB is a zerg server with bad duelers. However, in my defense, my posts are directed at those members, the ones active on these forums, who claim that MG is mostly about roaming and dueling. If there’s someone from MG who’d present their server as otherwise, I will address their posts accordingly. I am well aware though that things are never absolute, just can’t help being human and categorizing.

Okay, I couldn’t resist. I thought of this on the drive home. http://xkcd.com/605/

dreztina.4820:

saiyr.3071:

I feel like there’s a middle ground between “zerging” and “1v1” that we’re missing here. Just sayin.

Zerging is a mentality, not a number.

Oh, well when you put it that way…

dreztina.4820:

I’m not looking for duels; I’m looking for someone who can put up a fight. I’ve been running around a week and a half in this matchup, and I’ve seen a ton of Maguuma out solo/small group, and I’ve seen a ton of EB doing the same, but Yak’s? One person. You can try to say that doesn’t mean everyone on YB is a bad zerger, but at the very least it means the proportion of good players from YB is so low that actually finding one is like looking for a needle in a very green, very large haystack.

But hey, on the bright side, I did run into an elementalist from YB that was pretty damned tough. I almost had to use my elite, and that doesn’t happen often 1v1.

So let’s get this straight, you roll up a dueling spec DD ele or theif and you wander around either by yourself or with a mate and you wonder why people who likely have group orientated specs, maybe even pve specs, maybe I’m a noob spec, don’t stop to duel you. Makes perfect sense.

Most people have learned by now to just leave the dueller players alone.

Want to duel. Go play spvp.

Relentliss.2170:

dreztina.4820:

I’m not looking for duels; I’m looking for someone who can put up a fight. I’ve been running around a week and a half in this matchup, and I’ve seen a ton of Maguuma out solo/small group, and I’ve seen a ton of EB doing the same, but Yak’s? One person. You can try to say that doesn’t mean everyone on YB is a bad zerger, but at the very least it means the proportion of good players from YB is so low that actually finding one is like looking for a needle in a very green, very large haystack.

But hey, on the bright side, I did run into an elementalist from YB that was pretty damned tough. I almost had to use my elite, and that doesn’t happen often 1v1.

So let’s get this straight, you roll up a dueling spec DD ele or theif and you wander around either by yourself or with a mate and you wonder why people who likely have group orientated specs, maybe even pve specs, maybe I’m a noob spec, don’t stop to duel you. Makes perfect sense.

Well, if you make the rules you always win, no?

Awesome time for a restart, interrupted my zerging. Hopefully the patch won’t take too long. I’ve got some hunting of Mag’s elite squadrons with my zerg to do.

A zerg server runs around taking every possible objective with kitten amounts of numbers and pretty much throws bodies at a door ad nauseum. They also don’t defend squat and have no idea what the hell a trebuchet is for. Supply camp? Np, let’s take our 50 guys there. Boom, next let’s take this tower over here. Nothing but rams guys, doesn’t matter how many arrow carts are hitting us. If the rams go down auto-attack that door all day long baby. It’ll go down eventually!

Some servers actually play this way. Yaks does not. Group of 10 here, group of 25 there, group of 5 there. I got no issues with how Yaks plays, coming from a Maguuman.

Anyone else notice there are no roaming warriors, engineers, necromancers, guardians, or rangers? Just wanted to point that out. Also I think I’ve seen about 20 videos of elementalists winning 1 v 2-5. Seems roaming is all about joining the D/D or bunker elementalist club.

Relentliss.2170:

dreztina.4820:

I’m not looking for duels; I’m looking for someone who can put up a fight. I’ve been running around a week and a half in this matchup, and I’ve seen a ton of Maguuma out solo/small group, and I’ve seen a ton of EB doing the same, but Yak’s? One person. You can try to say that doesn’t mean everyone on YB is a bad zerger, but at the very least it means the proportion of good players from YB is so low that actually finding one is like looking for a needle in a very green, very large haystack.

But hey, on the bright side, I did run into an elementalist from YB that was pretty damned tough. I almost had to use my elite, and that doesn’t happen often 1v1.

So let’s get this straight, you roll up a dueling spec DD ele or theif and you wander around either by yourself or with a mate and you wonder why people who likely have group orientated specs, maybe even pve specs, maybe I’m a noob spec, don’t stop to duel you. Makes perfect sense.

Most people have learned by now to just leave the dueller players alone.

Want to duel. Go play spvp.

Yea silly them to like have spec that is good at taking keeps and such huh? Because everyone knows key to WvWvW is ganking people running to a siege.

Jamaz.9837:

Anyone else notice there are no roaming warriors, engineers, necromancers, guardians, or rangers? Just wanted to point that out. Also I think I’ve seen about 20 videos of elementalists winning 1 v 2-5. Seems roaming is all about joining the D/D or bunker elementalist club.

Not really, Thief is still kind. Good luck winning against a half decent p/d thief.

Mesmers are pretty good, Ele/Thief/Mesmer are generally the typical roaming/1v1 classes. I have seen several warriors/guardians do it as well, and some regen build rangers. Now Necro’s and Engi’s are hard to judge because not many people play them. I do think Engineer’s can do quiet good at it since they also have a bunker/high CC build. The main reason though it’s mostly ele/thief and a little bit behinde, mesmers is because those have escape abilities so they can run away even if they lose a duel. While Warriors and Guardians can do pretty damn well in 1v1’s, they can’t escape if there’s a fight they don’t want to get involved in. I did a little bit of roaming with my warrior, and while I won 1v1’s with a good amount of success despite being undergeared, the amount of times I had to die due to unfavorable fights I could just avoid with an ele/thief made roaming with a warrior just not fun compared to those 2 classes…and again, mesmers somewhat.

Now I believe Engi’s can do it as good as thieves and ele’s…they are just so under played in WvW it is hard to judge with certainity. But you can find many bunker Engi’s in sPvP that also have a ridiculous amount of mobility and can kite/cc forever.

Jamaz.9837:

Anyone else notice there are no roaming warriors, engineers, necromancers, guardians, or rangers? Just wanted to point that out. Also I think I’ve seen about 20 videos of elementalists winning 1 v 2-5. Seems roaming is all about joining the D/D or bunker elementalist club.

i r crystal cannon ranger… no way im going to roam with this build…

most roamers i see are cookie cutter eles/thieves…

Ekove.4586:

Ah, well I was curious about that. It’s probably the same guild if they have those extra high requirements to join, unless they changed that philosophy.

I was probably the elementalist (human female with redhair) you dueled, since I noticed you didn’t use an elite. Was a pretty good fight, though I didn’t have my PvP set up to be honest, I just came back from a dungeon and had PvE utility skills and some magic find gear (that’s why I casted that random earth elemental). We had somewhat of a rematch that went better for me right after, until some people decided to interfere -.-

Though well played if that was me you were talking about.

Ya, was a good fight. Not sure about join requirements, I just bumped into a couple guys from AoN and we killed a bunch of people and they tossed me an invite since I didn’t have a guild at the time (I’m still an old school one guild at a time person).

Relentliss.2170:

So let’s get this straight, you roll up a dueling spec DD ele or theif and you wander around either by yourself or with a mate and you wonder why people who likely have group orientated specs, maybe even pve specs, maybe I’m a noob spec, don’t stop to duel you. Makes perfect sense.

Most people have learned by now to just leave the dueller players alone.

Want to duel. Go play spvp.

This seems to be a real misconception that everyone is running around in group oriented specs. Pretty much every thief is running dueling specs. Every mesmer is shatter. Almost every warrior is greatsword glass cannon. Most eles are d/d or s/d. You guys keep trying to use builds as an excuse, but that isn’t the problem.

Jamaz.9837:

Anyone else notice there are no roaming warriors, engineers, necromancers, guardians, or rangers? Just wanted to point that out. Also I think I’ve seen about 20 videos of elementalists winning 1 v 2-5. Seems roaming is all about joining the D/D or bunker elementalist club.

Mobility is king when you’re fighting outnumbered. If you can’t choose your fights, you’re just going to feed. It isn’t even based on raw power as most of those classes are quite strong in 1v1s. Unless those other classes get enough mobility to actually escape zergs, they’ll never be popular for solo roaming.

But again, I’ve been roaming on this ele with the same build and gear (not bunker) since it was generally believed d/d was an underpowered novelty spec for one of the worst classes in the game, and when balance shifts and the build isn’t popular, I’ll still be playing it, if I’m playing the game at all.

All this labeling is amusing, at the least. At the end of the day, does it matter? If you like roaming, you go roaming. If you like to go with zerg to accomplish objectives to score points for the server, then do it. To me? point of wvwvw is to get things done in order not to lose points to the other servers. Killing people does not score you points directly. Indirectly? yes, if you are in my way to accomplish my mission, I’ll try to kill you.

Another funny thing is I actually often roam but I rarely see maguu (or EB) not in a group in green BL. When I run into a player, often times a few secs later a couple others will show up and gang on me.