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I’ve seen PRX have to move between battlelands all the time because the rest of SoS isnt there when we start taking over battlelands Celeron

I’ve been enjoying the fights with SoS thus far at our SoR borderlands, especially with [HUG], [MERC] and [PRX]( and numerous other guilds who are there but these guilds seem to form the bulk of the army when I’m around). I am really glad that we had the chance to fight with you guys allowed us to realize where our weaknesses are and also allows our SoR community to strengthen as a whole when fighting a strong adversary! Looking forward to fighting with you all again!

Alpaca is the bestest! I don’t get to get out there as much as I would like do to real life. but Saturday and Sunday mornings/afternoons are some awesome WvWvW times.

Cat Amiss.9463:

I’ve seen PRX have to move between battlelands all the time because the rest of SoS isnt there when we start taking over battlelands Celeron

Various guilds have jumped to various BLs depending on circumstances. While PRX is certainly an efficient guild, it takes more than one guild to win, and win consistently. I find it rather amusing that I see the same server making statements about SOS being carried by PRX or that our players stink individually, but I also see the same server posting about how their own folks don’t know how to retreat, hold key points, or otherwise PVP well.

I certainly don’t want to weaken our position by pointing out flaws that could be fixed, but while I’m sure our people have made mistakes, I’ve seen some pretty laughable mistakes on the other side of the fence as well.

celeron.3469:

Kanji Maki.1695:

but mostly PRX just carried.

It is a shame you think that. PRX has been on a single BL this entire match.

PRX carried SoS for the most part and has been seen on every bg.

Understandable Toast from a good player or team from any servers point of view this should be the case, Ive been on every bg and most hours of the day. SoS has lots of good players and guilds, from IoJ I only saw one guild Aegis of Janithar that was formidable.

This is what I see from my standpoint.

Kanji Maki.1695:

celeron.3469:

Kanji Maki.1695:

but mostly PRX just carried.

It is a shame you think that. PRX has been on a single BL this entire match.

PRX carried SoS for the most part. What I typed is pretty easy to understand…dont know how you got that idea from it.

PRX without a doubt carried the match, but they are still one guild that can’t be ever-present. They played the zerg-breakers all week, annihilating careless unorganized forces. We are still responsible for being unable to pull our weight in the other borderlands.

If SoR learns anything from this, it is that mesmer portal awareness needs to be stressed immensely. They are easy to counter if caught.

We countered them as much as we could, but our numbers aren’t what they used to be, and on average their players are above normal caliber. The thrill of GroupvGroup combat with their scout teams all week has been amazing. The difference between a random group of 5 players, and a balanced team of complementary classes is worlds apart even in WvW.

/salute [PRX]

You may have seen a few players on every bg, but the guild itself only organizes on a single BL. If they, as a guild, move to another it’s to provide assistance and that hasn’t happened at all, to my knowledge, during NA prime time. Which is their and my prime time. They are a gigantic guild, what you probably see are players waiting in queue to get into SoR BL.

AoI (Work, ATac, DR, OnS, Nexus, and VI) have been on SoS BL the whole match and we have never needed assistance from PRX when we play. TSym, Sexy, DoP, and FoE have been in EB the entire time (afaik) and they also do not need assistance from PRX. RMA goes where they can make progress, as we do not have enough players to put queues on IoJ they usually go to SoS BL during NA primetime.

So again, I’m sorry you see it that way.

Ashlov.3819:

Cat Amiss.9463:

I’ve seen PRX have to move between battlelands all the time because the rest of SoS isnt there when we start taking over battlelands Celeron

Various guilds have jumped to various BLs depending on circumstances. While PRX is certainly an efficient guild, it takes more than one guild to win, and win consistently. I find it rather amusing that I see the same server making statements about SOS being carried by PRX or that our players stink individually, but I also see the same server posting about how their own folks don’t know how to retreat, hold key points, or otherwise PVP well.

I certainly don’t want to weaken our position by pointing out flaws that could be fixed, but while I’m sure our people have made mistakes, I’ve seen some pretty laughable mistakes on the other side of the fence as well.

I wasn’t saying they are the only reason, just stating i have seen them on other BL

…and I have seen them in full force have to move to other BL’s plenty of times to help defend celeron so I’m not really sure why you’re objecting to it…there is nothing wrong with that anyways…sometimes servers are lacking at a certain time so a guild may need to help on another BL…not sure what the issue is here…

I guess PRX made a big impression on people on SOR if they think they’re running every map. You might see members stray on to other maps, but every map is split between the big guilds for coverage. I see people not wanting to give SOS guilds credit for their work and always have to down play it, well we have better skill, well you guys have the zerg, well you guys have PRX.

Well that’s fine whatever the rest of you think, at least the players on SOS server know the hard work all the guilds have put in, as part of the “militia” I’d like to thank all SOS w3 guilds for their organization and communication, you make it fun for the rest of us.

I’m objecting to it because I’m on one of the other BLs, I’ve been there all week, and I know what you’re saying isn’t true for my BL and there is never a reason for them to send help to TSym/FoE. The only BL I could see PRX moving to is IoJ BL. Now if you had said “I saw PRX on IoJ BL as well as SoR BL” I wouldn’t have responded. There is no reason to make up things to make an excuse sound valid.

I too saw only PRX in IOJ all weekend.
We even made jokes about it that you weren’t sos but prx.
The only reason it was noted was because ppl started calling out guilds (because someone asked) with how many enemies they saw.

lol, if you don’t want to acknowledge the other guilds, that’s fine. That’s a mistake will allow you to make over and over again.

celeron.3469:

I’m objecting to it because I’m on one of the other BLs, I’ve been there all week, and I know what you’re saying isn’t true for my BL and there is never a reason for them to send help to TSym/FoE. The only BL I could see PRX moving to is IoJ BL. Now if you had said “I saw PRX on IoJ BL as well as SoR BL” I wouldn’t have responded. There is no reason to make up things to make an excuse sound valid.

Oh ok excuse me for not specifying which 1s…general statement lol you are getting WAY too defensive over it.

I have seen plenty of great work from all the guilds on SoS which has lead to their victory, simply stating I have seen PRX move to other maps at times which you just said yourself. Not even sure why this is an argument…meh.

Anyways has been fun and still is, good job to all the guilds on all teams in this match so far.

I guess its understandable that people will remember the guilds with the most members, but that doesn’t mean PRX carried anyone. We’ve all done our part to help out, DM has been in SoR all week, but nobody knows about us because we don’t have 50-100 people running around.

PRX have been mainly in SoR BL this week but will switch over to other BL’s if they have cleaned out the map or another commander comes in and starts trying to run things. Other guilds have been assigned to EB, IoJ BL, and SoS BL. I also see good guilds like Sexy and TSym come into SoR BL and operate on their own helping split forces, and rush to defend. You would often see on map chat “TYsm will deal with this” and its good to know attacks/defenses aren’t ignored.

There have been no queue times for any BL this week except EB where SoS have a few solid guilds but also a lot of puggers.

To think one guild has carried is crazy talk, PRX are kitten good but can not win this on their own. They seem to work well with other guilds which is why things seem to be working atm. If only that Daish guy would stop trying to interfere all the time, and questioning everyones calls.

Skaag.2954:

Nice fights and enjoying this match up. From SoR here. Can SoS please help police and watch your guild LEM and another guild (didn’t tag or SS in time, believe another player did and hopefully posting it here soon). They have hackers inside Bay at SoS BL right now. Thief and a Mez under the ground killing siege, player scouts, and portalling in players. Not here to label the server, so please help catch them if can. Thanks.

Update:

The behavior stopped shortly after this post. Thank you to any LEM or SoS players who may have helped police their community. A person claiming to be from LEM contacted me later that night and claimed he was responsible and that it was a game glitch and not a hack. His stance was that he was not trying to abuse the situation and was testing the circumstances he found himself in before sending in his report to Anet about the problem. 2 Thieves were involved, so maybe he was not the one who was legitimately trying to kill players within the Bay. I will leave this for each to make their own judgment. But again, the behavior did stop after my post was put up and I appreciate that.

I have enjoyed this weeks match up and wish both SoS and IoJ good luck in their future battles. Unless you are fighting us of course…

Kanji Maki.1695:

celeron.3469:

Kanji Maki.1695:

but mostly PRX just carried.

It is a shame you think that. PRX has been on a single BL this entire match.

PRX carried SoS for the most part and has been seen on every bg.

We have only been on 1 map for 90% of this matchup. The only time we map swapped was when our allocated border was 100% ours, then we switched right back to our allocated border once garrison was lost on it.

SoS as a whole has been outstanding this match, even when PRX have been pegged back to only bay and briar as our income, the other maps have been pulling in tremendous points.

You guys should ask Team Legacy and Freelancer who is dominating and farming kills off of them all day long.

Super match up, really glad to see the aggressive play with good sportsmanship.
No doubt SoS will do well in the tier one bracket, although it looks like they might have to wait another week. =(

With 24hours to go SoS need to make up about 9,000 points on Blackgate.

That’s about 90 points a tick….at the moment…with SoR finally pushing into SoS they are only reaping about 30 points a tick.

Still pretty close with BG probably slight faves to stay up. But beware the last 3 hours of WvW where maps go bonkers.

They’re making progress because more than likely a good chunk of SoS stopped giving a crap given the score and the reset tomorrow. Good night to catch up on my DVR queue.

To anyone talking about PRX and other militia guilds in SoS, you will have to admit that if you didn’t have PRX, FoE, etc, you wouldn’t have such a large lead, if there was a lead at all. That is why we say they carried your server. Carrying does not mean that they can do everything by themselves. If you think that, you will have to think again about the very meaning of that word.

Just wanted to clarify; we don’t think PRX could have done this alone, but if you didn’t have them, I highly doubt you would have a large lead, if any.

The longest queue I’ve been in since the week-end was a 3 minute queue at primetime on EB. Yet the fighting has still been fairly balanced. No queues and good fights? I won’t complain.

There is one thing that has really been bothering me though and I’ve seen it being done on all sides. When team A is sieging team B, team C will often come in and destroy team A’s siege then set-up their own siege to attack team B.

I facepalm so hard everytime I see this happen.

The truth is that the SoS guilds themselves aren’t what did in SoR. I’ve killed just as many PRX as I killed FoE or Sexy, and no one SoS guild has particularly impressed me, PRX included. No, what really did us in is a combination of better-than-average-but-not-great cohesion by the Sea of Sorrows server as a whole,and a complete breakdown of discipline and organization by the Sanctum of Rall server as a whole.

Just for giggles, fellow SoR players…when is the last time you saw our server essentially “throw in the towel” as we’ve done in this matchup, offering only token (or no) resistance (no queues anywhere anytime anymore) as we’ve done in this matchup?

Skill hasn’t won us past matches, grit and determination has. Remember that.

I find it ridiculous that you would think one guild carried a server. While PRX is good, they by no means carry the server. If you look at EB this past week you will see that predominantly that the guilds assigned to that map have done an incredible job and we have held onto SM for the majority of the time.

Also, you talk about skill – did you ever happen to think that while maybe they might lose 1 vs 1 at times that it’s due to being specced for group play rather than kitten 1 person?

On the size of zergs, people love to exaggerate on the amount of forces they fight against to make themselves feel good. Most maps have 2 or 3 commanders on them and I can personally say that I have never seen a 70 man zerg on our side. Would be great if we had one but alas truth is more boring than fiction.

I find these ludicrous and outlandish statements pathetic as you should be focusing building up your server verse trying to excuse a loss or lack of skill.

kuora.5402:

To anyone talking about PRX and other militia guilds in SoS, you will have to admit that if you didn’t have PRX, FoE, etc, you wouldn’t have such a large lead, if there was a lead at all. That is why we say they carried your server. Carrying does not mean that they can do everything by themselves. If you think that, you will have to think again about the very meaning of that word.

Just wanted to clarify; we don’t think PRX could have done this alone, but if you didn’t have them, I highly doubt you would have a large lead, if any.

I’m scratching my head over this, every server has top guilds that “carries” the server. Where would SOR be without their big guilds? behind IOJ maybe?

But yeah keep focusing on PRX, it’ll keep our “militia guilds” low key and a better chance to keep surprising people in the future.

Would say SoS is very much coordinated compare with last time especially among the commander on the field.

All the SoS ppl are awesome… some commanders are from smaller guild but by the way the take charge is really amazing… PRX might be seen at other bl as well but its only a handful of them… each guild did their part on diff bl

overall i quite happy with what SoS is doing right now

Currently my guild at sos bl every night (SEA time) waiting for ND from sor to come in and have fun! ND really have alot of ppl and make hell out of us for the last few days. Recently din see them much tho in sos bl… maybe they went to other bl? idk

Grey.7862:

On the size of zergs, people love to exaggerate on the amount of forces they fight against to make themselves feel good.

I don’t feel good actually, everytime I play I have outmanned buff. Last night, at one point, I was one of the only SoR in EB lol.

Really really hope you guys make it to T1 and maybe then you can face servers who can field full populations 24/7. I think it might be an eye opener for SoS when they actually have to fight more even numbers.

As it stands SoR is out of luck in the Euro/Oceanic time frame.

Anyways, lookin like maybe we have to face you again…so unless we get massive amounts of euro/oceanic transfers; guess it’s PvE time next week. But that is unlikely, they are all mostly on SoS.

Any server that is doing well is a sum of all it’s parts. PRX is a good guild but obviously can’t do much with out 40 other awesome guilds. The reason SoS is doing well is because they all have each others backs and work as a team. I’M sure the leaders of SOS guilds respect each other and know they need eveyone contributing to make it to tier 1.

While I agree SoS coordination is top notch and they are godly players who cannot be beat….you fail to see that it is boiling down to a pure numbers game. I guess it has nothing to do with being outmanned every day past 10 pm west coast time to 8 am when SoS caps everything with next to no opposition….no, not at all.

Bit unfair to the other SoS guilds to say that PRX carried an entire server.

Anyways , talks about individual skill levels are anecdotal at best and should be dismissed. I’m sure there are players in all 3 servers than can make your day go real bad.

Arguing over who carried who and what the score might’ve been if PRX weren’t on SoS is pointless. The fact is that PRX are on SoS and it is a very solid victory for the entire server against some good opposition.

People from SoR who claim that they only lost because of SoR deficiencies rather than SoS strength are simply devaluing the hard work put in by both teams.

If the current scoring doesn’t change significantly then it should be the same matchup next week. Should be interesting to see what lessons have been learned.

Lesson I learned this week; I can’t 1 v 30+ people and retake EB by myself.

BOO!

fixit.7189:

Lesson I learned this week; I can’t 1 v 30+ people and retake EB by myself.

BOO!

Lesson I learned this week; SoR and IoJ needs more Aussies.

Ya know, the reason why our guild (and some other original SoS guilds) rolled on this server was in hopes of having round-the-clock WvW coverage. It certainly didn’t go that way for the first month due to lack of NA coverage, but it’s worked itself out.

I understand people being angry because a guild on your server sought greener pastures after launch, but original SoS guilds are just guilty of better planning.

To the 20-30+ SoS which were called to clear out the 8 SoR’s making base in refuge for fun this morning, I give you props.

Although to the 10 who tried pushing 4 of us out for 30mins+ while the rest took a tower, it was fun playing with you guys. I was loving dagger dagger ele for it. (Thanks for letting me test the build.)

I think that this was a really fun match up. The fighting on the opening weekend was very tight and fierce from all sides, well done to all servers. When it got to the weekdays, the dynamics change and it’s always interesting to see that who will come out on top. The servers settled into their rhythms by Tuesday and that’s when SoS’s lead began to become unassailable, the match up was over by Wednesday and it became mathematically impossible for SOR to come back by Thursday.

I gotta give props to the SOS guilds that have been in Eternal Battlegrounds all week, both NA and Oceanian guilds have done an amazing job in there together and you guys were the rock for us in this match up.

I think with the way that the current glicko ratings are going, SOS will stay in tier 2 and tomorrow will be a rematch of this week.

Having to compensate our near non existent eu prime coverage with extra hours of tenacious, fierce, and unrelenting opposition to impending victory by Thursday, I would say we earned a restful night away from the battlefield.

See you SoR and IoJ next match up!

I want to apologize to the SoS guilds for the hostility from SoR. Please understand that we are a bit discouraged by our numbers.

Our server has been locked at ’Full’ for 6 days now. While our NA prime numbers are excellent our server has only 50-75 active players during Oceanic prime. Due to tranfers being switched from 1 day to 7 days alot of bots have moved in and made SoR their permanrnt home.

I also would like to apologize to SoS. You guys worked hard for your lead. Like Kayku said above bots are swarming our PvE zones and Oceanics find it hard to transfer in I think.

I think full only applies for how many people are online in the server at that moment. Don’t think it’s total population, but rather total population online. If it’s night time and NA numbers are low Oceanics should be able to transfer…that is if my assumption is correct.

SoS all class this week, dont care what guilds are doing well or not, who cares what people say about PRX. Pretty much all your timezones are organised and do well even when you have low numbers. Also SoR very tidy NA primetime team. Props to you guys, I have even seen you guys improve in organisation from the begging of this week until the last couple of days (late NA primetime)

I am an IoJ’er and its a shame but we have been missing in action since Halloween. We lost a lot of people to W3 and I believe its a combination of a lot of things, but mainly because we are terribly unorganised and its just not fun being in W3 when you are not part of a organsised guild. I did an experiment this week to see what it would be like to play as a PuG or even do some out of guild primetime W3’ing and it was a terrible experience.

This week has seen some progress for ioJ hoever and we finally have some unity starting to occur. Unofortunately next week will prob be 2 weeks too early for a competitve IoJ in a rematch. But in 2 weeks I see us being a T2 strong competitor with occasional T1 visits again.

People are starting to agree on things and communication is on the improve.

Looking forward to next week again anway and hopefully we can have an even closer matchup.

Dia

Doomdesire.9365:

I think full only applies for how many people are online in the server at that moment. Don’t think it’s total population, but rather total population online. If it’s night time and NA numbers are low Oceanics should be able to transfer…that is if my assumption is correct.

I believe you are right. What I meant was the bots being in WvW. They are slowly thinning out but it seems the Skritt area in borderlands maps are where they focus. Thus it’s disheartening for people to sit through a queue only to find out 20 spots belong to ranger bots. Thankfully we are able to coordinate them being banked a few times! Thanks to Ioj and Sos groups for working with us to make a truce in that area for bot farming! However, I think they moved on to casting heals at the waypoint so they don’t get kicked out and sit through a queue…must not be working because their numbers are dwindling!

There was some epic fighting in the EB jumping puzzle today. Even some PRX guild members showed up to build trebs and ballistas. We didn’t allow them any easy siege blueprints this time, however.

I dont know why some SOS players were still using flying hack to take out our IOJ BL garrison within 2 minutes. I was in the garrison, then saw a doggy SOS commander with some zegs instantly on the wall. Report them with “botting” (cheating), however in the dead angle cant do much. Just want to say, already lead the way, dont need to be greedy fellows.

So um… just looked at the thread title. Who does Day/Month format?! lol :P

buki.3108:

So um… just looked at the thread title. Who does Day/Month format?! lol :P

The entire world except for the US…..

Sora Shadow.9160:

I dont know why some SOS players were still using flying hack to take out our IOJ BL garrison within 2 minutes. I was in the garrison, then saw a doggy SOS commander with some zegs instantly on the wall. Report them with “botting” (cheating), however in the dead angle cant do much. Just want to say, already lead the way, dont need to be greedy fellows.

They probably just climbed the wall and ported in/or not. There is a video on it that shows how to do it without breaking one wall or gate. Garrison is quite vulnerable with this thing out there. I tried twice in two battlegrounds IOJ to ask if anyone saw the video, they completely ignored it. At least with the video you would see places that people might route and setup manned siege near it. Without even glancing, well…
You seem like an interested person.
This is the thread with the video.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/dang-how-can-he-get-there/first#post658217

Didn’t do anything much today except for getting on my thief and supply capping everything around SoS BL. A bit disappointed that we got the same matchup tomorrow though.