Guild Wars 2

My evening was spent fire fighting more than enjoying the proceedings After GH arrived in numbers into WSR bl. I knew something was happening, asked for vigilance and people to keep a proper track of the CHvc group, keep map aware. I went for 10mins for my dinner, came back to a blue garrison :/ what followed was an evening of trying to find commanders and bodies to stop the vultures picking at the carcass.

We had a few commanders come and go along the evening, halting/stalling progress. But there just weren’t enough people online for once to secure anything :s we got outmanned about 4-1 at Dreaming Bay and I just started setting up for a last stand at Etheron Hills (My guilds claim).

We had enough of a setup to keep RoF out of Etheron thankfully, and Enjiru Witch [WAR] had come online by that point. Between the 10 or so of us we managed to outmanoeuvre the remaining RoF in our borderlands to retake the map at the cost of EB keep.

Was quite depressing seeing so many towers/keeps that I’d spent hours defending, sometimes solo, and spent a fortune upgrading get flipped with no effort. Disappointing to be so thoroughly outmanned completely out of the blue too :/ We’ve been outmanned before. But last night we just had no numbers at all Good fights though

When we saw that your Hills still have over 1k supply, we decided no to siege it, but to go EB instead, where we were pushed by GH. But I have to admit it that it was fun in WSR BL last evening, and we had a little payback for you guys regularly stalking our Hills

pejot.4806:

When we saw that your Hills still have over 1k supply, we decided no to siege it, but to go EB instead, where we were pushed by GH. But I have to admit it that it was fun in WSR BL last evening, and we had a little payback for you guys regularly stalking our Hills

So were you the rotten sods that appeared out of nowhere in EB, went straight to take Quentin with 3 rams and 3 catas, and almost took Durios until we organised? Where the hell did you go after that? you vanished as fast as you appeared…

Yes, that was us After that we got call to our BL, so me and part of us switched to clean mess there. I don’t know what happened later, as I had to go to bed.

pejot.4806:

When we saw that your Hills still have over 1k supply, we decided no to siege it, but to go EB instead, where we were pushed by GH. But I have to admit it that it was fun in WSR BL last evening, and we had a little payback for you guys regularly stalking our Hills

Hehe it would have taken about the same force you had down at DB to have got into the Hills last night even with the skeleton crew arranged to defend it. With the help of [OS] (Forzaaaaa Italiaaaaaa), we’d setup more siege than you could shake a commander at, lot harder to get in, and much more prepared to dig in there unlike the bay.

Ventus.9483:

Hehe it would have taken about the same force you had down at DB to have got into the Hills last night even with the skeleton crew arranged to defend it. With the help of [OS] (Forzaaaaa Italiaaaaaa), we’d setup more siege than you could shake a commander at, lot harder to get in, and much more prepared to dig in there unlike the bay.

I had a peak at the south entrance last night. You really had an impressive amount of Balista and Arrow carts up :

Rhymelark.4396:

I had a peak at the south entrance last night. You really had an impressive amount of Balista and Arrow carts up :

Just needed bodies to drive them really haha

The inside of the walls was all set to grind you to meat paste too :s

I look forward to venturing outside my own borderlands one day home defence is so much less attractive than being in a rampaging zerg smashing skulls in the oppositions back garden, drawback of being the little guy of the server matchup me thinks, less people willing to keep our own garden tidy lol.

TBH this was my first trip to enemy BL with significant numbers during this matchup – most of the time I was busy in RoF or EB. I agree, that people are willing to attack, not to defend (not to mention maintenance tasks), but that’s anet’s fault – I can understand why it happens, as many people just want their rewards…

Maintenance has been quite positive in WSR bl. People always seem willing to fix the stuff that gets broken if they’re already defending.

I made out like a bandit flipping our bl’s back to all red anyway so I can’t complain much. I was lvl 28 just two days ago, 52 now, and I’ve not left WvW/WSR bl.

nice matchup! didnt think we would pull ahead like this, you guys still planning to challenge our victory? :P or catfight over 2nd place? ^^ I think this week also shows a more clear picture of what happened last week, eh RoF?

While we’re still in the matchup I’d just like to thank all 3 servers for a thoroughly enjoyable week of decent fights and general fair play. It’s been great to play in a much more balanced environment, clawing for points and appreciating some devious use of siege and manpower from all sides. Nice to be at Wednesday and 1st place isn’t unreachable by anyone.

Thanks RoF and WSR, I’m looking forward to next week already.

Well for sure this match isn’t over. But Krossan i have to say it is more possible for you to finish 3rd than to finish 1st.
As for last nights events, we seem to have increased the gap with ROF. Yesterday morning the difference was 23K and now it is over 32k and increasing.
You guys are great opponents though, the same goes for WSR. Big respect for an awesome week.

Talon Silverhawk.5964:

Yorric Hunt.8214:

@Crosstrack I very rarely set foot in EB so haven’t seen how we have been doing but its good to hear that we are still a force there.
In the borderlands though as Ventus said we defiantly felt a lack of numbers.

Btw RoF are [ICON] still with you as i have only seen stragglers so far and no real guild force? Cheers

Icon growing back up. It was Icon who hit GH BL tonight with some help from other ROF with a some Golems and Icon who hit EB and took a lot of the map even SM with help from other ROF players.
Later when lots of Icon log off for bed we then I am told lost SM.

All of RoF’s successful activities were solely I C O N I C. Everything else you/they tried failed, and when they/you logged, everything was re-capped nice and quickly.

My congratulations on your endeavours, [ICON], you were quite irksome. I am happy that it cost you a considerable number of golems (I heard it was 3 omegas and 12 alphas in total). At one point I was so frustrated I even said, “Kill the Twilight guy”.

The lack of any action whatsoever from WR all night (apart from capping a few quaggan camps and doing a breakout on RoF BL) as a second force was very disappointing and was a hugely significant factor.

Having said all of this, I take my hat off to you/them for taking advantage of the situation and/or being in the right place at the right time.

Now you were wrong twice Sir.

First we had to push back WSR from inner gate of our hills, so it’s hardly lack of any action.

Later, [TaG], [HxH] and [NaZ] had a pretty successful campaign on WSR border that ended up on taking over half of it, including bay and garrison, which we stole from GH.

So no, it wasn’t just ICON playing (ofc, I appreciate all the work they did)

pejot.4806:

Now you were wrong twice Sir.

First we had to push back WSR from inner gate of our hills, so it’s hardly lack of any action.

Later, [TaG], [HxH] and [NaZ] had a pretty successful campaign on WSR border that ended up on taking over half of it, including bay and garrison, which we stole from GH.

So no, it wasn’t just ICON playing (ofc, I appreciate all the work they did)

You owe GH a small thanks for your hills save tbh

Just as we thought we’d seen the last of GH in our own borders the few RoF we had there turned into a lot, so we reasoned losing the DB outer gate would be fine as we would be much more capable of defending the inner. Which proved impossible when you got reinforced, at that point it was more about making Hills impregnable, which we achieved, and turning the rest of the BL red again, which we also achieved eventually [NaZ] were the RoFs I saw the most, and [RUS].

pejot.4806:

Now you were wrong twice Sir.

First we had to push back WSR from inner gate of our hills, so it’s hardly lack of any action.

Later, [TaG], [HxH] and [NaZ] had a pretty successful campaign on WSR border that ended up on taking over half of it, including bay and garrison, which we stole from GH.

So no, it wasn’t just ICON playing (ofc, I appreciate all the work they did)

Why does [Warp] get missed in this? We’ve owned Garrison since the reset and we’ve been playing defense on the RoF borderland ever since. Except for one breakout event on Sunday night we pretty much haven’t left our borderland and we’ve tossed out a ton of siege.

Someone has to play defense and this week that has been [Warp].

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Why does [Warp] get missed in this? We’ve owned Garrison since the reset and we’ve been playing defense on the RoF borderland ever since. Except for one breakout event on Sunday night we pretty much haven’t left our borderland and we’ve tossed out a ton of siege.

Someone has to play defense and this week that has been [Warp].

Sorry I know that you did awesome job defending our home, upgrading and maintaining stuff

Korsbaek.9803:

and from what i have seen GH Normaly plays fair play tho last night we had a few IMP players from GH trying to get into our keep without takeing down the gate or wall

Please be more specific, location, zone, time, professions.

Further more is it [Imp] as in “Impact Eu” as I have seen other players around with [Imp] tags who are not from our guild, one of whom is a recent exile from RoF I Believe (Ohdaving val Dhova?).

I can garrauntee we have no exploiters or cheats in this guild. By what do you mean “trying to get inside”?

RoF = ICON and NP.
WSR = rddt.

Without those folks there’s virtually no opposition in EB and no pressure in our own borderland. All the others seem to cling onto their own map and try to defend it, but then it’s usually pretty chaotic. Hats down for ICON, NP and rddt though, for you guys are worthy opponents.

I’m not in [Imp] but I know them very well and can vouch that they are excellent players and wouldn’t exploit even if they could. They play fair and hard and like to seek tough challenges like taking on bigger forces and ninja’ing keeps from under enemy noses.

I don’t know what you saw but it’s either not genuinely the [Imp] guild or you mistook a very well-executed ninja for a hack (which has happened already in this thread if you read up!).

As you’re from ICON you might be interested to know that there are alternative ways to taking keeps than building 10+ golems and walking them straight at a gate

(I’m joking, it’s meant in a friendly way in case it’s not clear…. really you guys play very well and I want to echo the above comments about this being an EXCELLENT matchup. Very excited for next week!)

NP have been difficult to shift. Core have been a big threat. The giant RoF zerg had me rocking gently in a corner yesterday. CHvc strike fear in me on border defence whenever I see their names pop up; go hurt RoF, I need counselling now because of you :’(

Don’t get us wrong Korsbaek, all servers have bad people on, Gunnar’s included. And I would HATE for us to cap towers or keeps using hacks, so if we do have hackers on our server I want to know about it so we can report them and get them banned.

Personally if I knew for sure we’d capped a place using hacks I’d be all for arranging for you to cap it back uncontested.

But there’s no way in hell that [Imp] are exploiting, I wouldn’t believe it for a second. Anyway, I think we’ve all made our point enough, and if you do see anyone hacking then please post evidence and we will do everything we can to report them and get them off our server.

Hope that helps clear your mind, and let’s all get back to some epic fights

first off i would never post a screenshot off it as all would know where it is and seconed as Neandramathal is saying it might have been some imps not knowig that it where a way in atrying to find a place to stand or just exploring and see what where possible but that dont change the fact from how it is looking from our point of view,

and yes we have a screenshot of it(im not the one taking the screenshot tho and the person is not online right now) and seconed i would recorment that screenshot about places like that would not be show as some people will abuse them then so i can i no way prove it to you guys without eighter setting our own Keep at risk or haveing you guys trust my word,

and for the info i have alot of respect for IMP as they are a strong oppennet and they are playing very well

Can you PM me the screenshot when you get access to it? I’ve mentioned to the guys already but every little helps

I can assure it wasn’t done with malicious intent, and if I ever catch anyone trying such things on purpose then they won’t be doing so with our tag on in future

I was only on for about an hour last night. Great fun at Hills on our own borderland. Lots of enemy siege defending the lord room but persistance and some nice portals fixed that.

Its nice not getting roflstomped and crazily large numbers, even though RoF seem to have a large blob that moves around maps like a Dyson vaccum cleaner

Ventus.9483:

NP have been difficult to shift. Core have been a big threat. The giant RoF zerg had me rocking gently in a corner yesterday. CHvc strike fear in me on border defence whenever I see their names pop up; go hurt RoF, I need counselling now because of you :’(

Sorry, but CHvc will not pay for any counselling you may need! For it is not in our rules

-Dis Noise Terror, CHvc

drkn.3429:

RoF = ICON and NP.
WSR = rddt.

Without those folks there’s virtually no opposition in EB and no pressure in our own borderland. All the others seem to cling onto their own map and try to defend it, but then it’s usually pretty chaotic. Hats down for ICON, NP and rddt though, for you guys are worthy opponents.

Not sure why your acting as if GH only has godlike WvW guilds and all the others don’t matter?
ICON and NP are the only pure WvW guilds we have but being a kitten and acting like everyone else on our and whiteside’s server sucks is pretty kitten arrogant. The other guilds who mix PvE content with WvW, or the smaller sized WvW guilds make a big impact on WvW in our server aswell. Just because they don’t have over 20 people running around doesn’t make them bad.

The difference in organisation and actual effects when dedicated guilds are present or not is showing. On all sides, GH included, but especially with WSR – [rddt] is the force that carries the server atm, with some sightings of [WAR] and [TEO]. Without Reddit there, the server would organise itself another way, the other guilds would be more prominent, but the way it is now, there are some teams carrying stuff much more than ‘other guilds which mix PvE content with WvW’. Ain’t much different on GH.

I’m mostly an EB player, and all i can say is that all the good fights i’ve seen there so far were mainly comprised and/or lead by folks of the aforementioned guilds. The only strong pushes into our map were mainly carried out by those groups.

A push which took, and controlled hills for a long time against bigger numbers then us on GH borderlands yesterday was actually made by [HxH] and [PI] along with other guilds in smaller number who are just as important. Don’t be posting here saying our server is only carried by two guilds when you don’t even leave EB.

I see [Pi] around although very few, so I assume a small guild? [HxH] are certainly a common opponent.

We probably max at about 10-15 people when we do planned WvW, but that hasn’t hapenned in a while as allot of our main WvW group has exams and such at the moment.
But yes, we are relatively small in the WvW landscape.

Although [rddt] are the biggest and most organised guild on our server we actually have about 7-9 smaller guilds that are starting to work together now, and coordinate with [rddt]. My guild for example is becoming more interested in WvW.
Until recently it has been a very PvE based but is one of the biggest guilds on our server and with a fast growing interest in WvW from the guildies expect to be seeing a lot more of us

Steelo.4597:

nice matchup! didnt think we would pull ahead like this, you guys still planning to challenge our victory? :P or catfight over 2nd place? ^^ I think this week also shows a more clear picture of what happened last week, eh RoF?

:D made me laugh mostly the last sentence

Had some good fights on WSR tonight, outnumbered a good 7-1 or something stupid though! ^ ^

-Dis Noise Terror, Cry Havoc

Cry havoc, please kindly remove yourselves from our BL.

Even though it was fun chasing you guys all over the map, and the little fight we had over Longview.

Seriously though, it’s nice to have a guild to face off again once again rather than a zerg.

:)

Kuper.2641:

Cry havoc, please kindly remove yourselves from our BL.

Even though it was fun chasing you guys all over the map, and the little fight we had over Longview.

Seriously though, it’s nice to have a guild to face off again once again rather than a zerg.

:)

Ok ok well we will see you later during the week

Thanks for a good fight.

We tried visiting earlier with 5 of us but we got zerged out 5 is not quite enough to potter around without distraction

Kuper.2641:

Cry havoc, please kindly remove yourselves from our BL.

Even though it was fun chasing you guys all over the map, and the little fight we had over Longview.

Seriously though, it’s nice to have a guild to face off again once again rather than a zerg.

:)

Ok ok well we will see you later during the week

Can RoF find out who is camping the GH JP with siege weapons? Sure – all is fair in love and war, but some stuff is still rather ‘lame’

Good fun in RoF borderland. The defense at Bluebriar was a bit of a chuckle, crazy number of lootbags. Got steamrolled quite a bit most elsewhere by lots of numbers but still good fun

To MM of GH, please remove this speeder was going a bit too fast if u can catch my drift

xilius.7890:

To MM of GH, please remove this speeder was going a bit too fast if u can catch my drift

Sure it was not a porting/Blinking Guard? or whatever the spell they use is

Pretty sure since i didn’t see any flames or a torch for that matter because was in close combat near faith when that person starting to blink away. also other players noticed the speeding

ICON and friends hit WSR BL due to a queue on our own BL.
We took there tower with event then move to take the camp by bay. Good fighting there while we deafened the camp as we treb bay then took it. We move on to take the camp north of there then Longview tower. We move from there to WSR Garrison which at time was own by GH.
After we took the Garrison we was very surprise to see WSR players on top above the champion. Could only take it that GH did not care to look for mesmers or was not very good at finding them. They got wipe by us, I say them because there was about 5 of WSR up there. Someone in GH not doing a good job of looking me think.

Talon Silverhawk.5964:

ICON and friends hit WSR BL due to a queue on our own BL.
We took there tower with event then move to take the camp by bay. Good fighting there while we deafened the camp as we treb bay then took it. We move on to take the camp north of there then Longview tower. We move from there to WSR Garrison which at time was own by GH.
After we took the Garrison we was very surprise to see WSR players on top above the champion. Could only take it that GH did not care to look for mesmers or was not very good at finding them. They got wipe by us, I say them because there was about 5 of WSR up there. Someone in GH not doing a good job of looking me think.

We (Cry Havoc) after capping Garrison if indeed it was not capped again logged off straight after capping. The cap was not to hold it but simply keep it for the tick. There was a small search for mesmers without luck, so i would presume it was the gates being knocked down. Either way Garrison was only capped to get rid of the upgrades on the garrison and reasons posted earlier in the comment

Toxikthrash.2704:

We (Cry Havoc) after capping Garrison if indeed it was not capped again logged off straight after capping. The cap was not to hold it but simply keep it for the tick. There was a small search for mesmers without luck, so i would presume it was the gates being knocked down. Either way Garrison was only capped to get rid of the upgrades on the garrison and reasons posted earlier in the comment

I think we’ve given up upgrading the garr now, cos it certainly seems like we’ve stopped defending it
I was one of the 3/4 who responded to the first call for help…. (Once you’d already made it to the inside door LOL fml). We could have easily defended it instead of kittening up defending DB AGAIN!! I called wp open countless times. No def arrived. I can’t tell you how much I love giving away upgraded keeps to CHvc

The evening turned into a repeat of the previous, the vultures both got scent of a smelly rotten carcass again, and tore our BL asunder. Numbers were better tonight, but still woefully outmanned in the places which mattered. I staunchly refused again to lose EH while I was online, and we put up enough siege to bankrupt an army.

Earlier in the week RoF numbers were maybe 1/4 of what they are now in WSR bl. Earlier in the week WSR numbers were approximately double what they are now in WSR bl. GH have had persistent numbers here, except the SM battle evening. Beaten to a soggy third by sheer weight of numbers, disappointing end to the week

To GH and WS, i am from Night Pact [NP] I am wondering if any guild from both servers want to arrange some guild v guild fights befor the reset on friday? If so please mail me or /w me

my guild have only 2 members but we can have a duel you vs me? ^^ i would like that

and Ventus you almost make me feel bad about winning >.< Almost!

Ventus.9483

Beaten to a soggy third by sheer weight of numbers, disappointing end to the week

WSR should feel justifiably proud of their performance this week. I think we at Gunnars were expecting WSR to be the easy points this week, and you have FAR from been that. I also don’t think you should give up the fight for second place just yet!

I’ve only been playing WvW since early October, but this has been my favourite match up to date, and not just because it looks like we might actually win.

The fights have been generally well matched, often three way and also very hard fought. I have seen little of the enormous map-stomping zergs that we have had to fight the last few months, but instead seen lots of three way fights where the outcome has always been in doubt. There has also been hardly and sign of any form of cheating or hacking – unlike a few other matches that I won’t mention.

This match has been very important in the re-building of Gunnars Hold. We have re-organised, worked on our communications, worked on our tactics, and this is finally starting to have an effect.

Not only do we have some great WvW guilds – but our small guilds and more and more of our individual players are getting on the community Mumble voice comms and getting organised into groups and being given group objectives. – We had around 60+ people on the community mumble last night (not huge numbers by higher tier standards I know) as well as the bigger guilds also using their own TS/Vent etc.

All in all a pretty good week so far for Gunnars Hold.

Thanks for the fights!!

Hengis

www.gunnars-hold.eu