4/5 TC/Kain/FA Week 5
Whenever I see BT tags, I think, “here we go again…” cause it usually means a knockdown dragout 3-way fight. Especially if PiNK is involved….
CrSy/LaWz
Tarnished Coast Server (formerly of Kaineng)
I don’t think BT receives nearly as much credit as they deserve; they’re an amazing guild and a HUGE part of FA’s success.
Did they get slighted somewhere or forgotten (sorry I don’t see what this is referencing). Same thing happened to Meow over at there server and even when they moved over … there wasn’t even a thank you for your efforts. Sad panda when I see that type of stuff.
Jang Gun left WM to persue a career in K-pop is what I heard…
… he would make millions if he wanted to
Jang Gun left WM to persue a career in K-pop is what I heard…
Omg, lol. That made my day.
I wonder if he will also get plastic surgery to make his face oh-so-smooth and cute.
I hope he will let us know when his first album is out~ xDD
Chibi Asura San (Engineer), Hikaru Masai (Guardian), Selene Minerva (Revenant)
Guild: The Bunnies [Bun] ~ Server: Jade Quarry
Score and map update by chance?
Last words – “I’m going to jump off this cliff
and pull all those guys down cuz they’ll die.”
Awesome – thanks Zook.
Last words – “I’m going to jump off this cliff
and pull all those guys down cuz they’ll die.”
Thanks for the update! FA bringin it!
Had a great time again in TC BL with [Corp]. Time to take a break…and sleep.
Also I find it amazing how far people will chase you for the kill, I’ve been chased across the entire map far too many times haha.
(edited by Andy.9137)
Jang Gun left WM to persue a career in K-pop is what I heard…
bahahaa^ – ^;.
We all love this tier and a large part of that is because of the three server involved. I do not believe the situation in Kaineng is all doom and gloom but there are some valid concerns bought up by a few Kaineng players, primarily the lack of NA and not having a large enough PVE population to draw players in from.
Instead of just worrying about it lets do something about it then. Lets help Kaineng recruit by bumping their thread by sharing our positive thoughts and opinions on Kaineng. I know TC got a lot of love from Kaineng and BG players alike to make our recruitment thread be very effective in recruiting individual players and small guilds. Lets do the same for them. I urge FA players to do the same.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Consider-Transferring-to-Kaineng
Yep. Agreed. They have been fabulous opponents. Time to show them some love, everyone.
Anyone kno if there’s an ETA for a fix for this bug?^^
Ppl blinking and shadow stepping into silly places~
believe me most of the time it is not blinking or shadowstepping.Since the patch I fell through the floor of a tower after enemy capped it. and it happened like 3 times to me.If the enemy is still there i will be stuck in combat and cant wp out.
[AVTR]
Isle of Kickaspenwood
We all love this tier and a large part of that is because of the three server involved. I do not believe the situation in Kaineng is all doom and gloom but there are some valid concerns bought up by a few Kaineng players, primarily the lack of NA and not having a large enough PVE population to draw players in from.
Instead of just worrying about it lets do something about it then. Lets help Kaineng recruit by bumping their thread by sharing our positive thoughts and opinions on Kaineng. I know TC got a lot of love from Kaineng and BG players alike to make our recruitment thread be very effective in recruiting individual players and small guilds. Lets do the same for them. I urge FA players to do the same.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Consider-Transferring-to-Kaineng
Yep. Agreed. They have been fabulous opponents. Time to show them some love, everyone.
How come nobody tried to get us transfers when we came in 3rd place those times?
[BT]
Fort Aspenwood
We all love this tier and a large part of that is because of the three server involved. I do not believe the situation in Kaineng is all doom and gloom but there are some valid concerns bought up by a few Kaineng players, primarily the lack of NA and not having a large enough PVE population to draw players in from.
Instead of just worrying about it lets do something about it then. Lets help Kaineng recruit by bumping their thread by sharing our positive thoughts and opinions on Kaineng. I know TC got a lot of love from Kaineng and BG players alike to make our recruitment thread be very effective in recruiting individual players and small guilds. Lets do the same for them. I urge FA players to do the same.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Consider-Transferring-to-Kaineng
Yep. Agreed. They have been fabulous opponents. Time to show them some love, everyone.
How come nobody tried to get us transfers when we came in 3rd place those times?
Well, they did try to take the few transfers we got. That counts doesn’t it?
Last words – “I’m going to jump off this cliff
and pull all those guys down cuz they’ll die.”
Had a great time again in TC BL with [Corp]. Time to take a break…and sleep.
Also I find it amazing how far people will chase you for the kill, I’ve been chased across the entire map far too many times haha.
It’s really funny when a whole zerg chases you too. Look at how important you are to so many people! They certainly deserve your loot bag after that.
Founding member of [NERF] Fort Engineer and driver for [TLC] The Legion of Charrs
RIP [SIC] Strident Iconoclast
So long as the forum remains within well mannered , I wouldn’t be oppose to sharing the love with FA … but when it gets a little much, then I’m not very supportive of it. You guys have come a long way in that regard, and in the event it’s been missed… I’m pretty sure both us (kain) and TC are seeing it.
Consistency speaks volumes though, I won’t label anyone for one offs, but I will commend those with a consistent good nature & respect for their own and opponent alike.
~ X, Kaineng
Consistency speaks volumes though…but I will commend those with a consistent good nature & respect for their own and opponent alike.
On a light-hearted note, I’d like to say that Kaineng is not Dragonbrand, about who I have said repeatedly, “It’s like they’re a bunch of rabid (unintelligent) chihuahuas”.
YaY KN! YaY TC! YaY FA! All that and an order of Lotus Fries. ^^
I’m terribly inconsistent, sowwy.
Ziffy Snidehide, Zadie Hawkkin, Zannie Oakley, Zuulja
[ODIN],[NaCl] – Tarnished Coast
How come nobody tried to get us transfers when we came in 3rd place those times?
You guys got all the transfers you needed b/f getting into T2, so BG/KN/TC weren’t around to help out then. I’m sure if it becomes a problem here you’ll feel the T2 love too.
How come nobody tried to get us transfers when we came in 3rd place those times?
You guys got all the transfers you needed b/f getting into T2, so BG/KN/TC weren’t around to help out then. I’m sure if it becomes a problem here you’ll feel the T2 love too.
BG is the server that needs transfers.
T2 is fine
[BT]
Fort Aspenwood
We all love this tier and a large part of that is because of the three server involved. I do not believe the situation in Kaineng is all doom and gloom but there are some valid concerns bought up by a few Kaineng players, primarily the lack of NA and not having a large enough PVE population to draw players in from.
Instead of just worrying about it lets do something about it then. Lets help Kaineng recruit by bumping their thread by sharing our positive thoughts and opinions on Kaineng. I know TC got a lot of love from Kaineng and BG players alike to make our recruitment thread be very effective in recruiting individual players and small guilds. Lets do the same for them. I urge FA players to do the same.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Consider-Transferring-to-Kaineng
I like this, I do. Time to show KA the love they showed us! Spread the love!
[FUNK] Squad
How come nobody tried to get us transfers when we came in 3rd place those times?
You guys got all the transfers you needed b/f getting into T2, so BG/KN/TC weren’t around to help out then. I’m sure if it becomes a problem here you’ll feel the T2 love too.
BG is the server that needs transfers.
T2 is fine
they do need transfers, but i have a feeling it is going to work the other way on that. BG loves 20vs.20 and 30vs.30 fights, not a big fan of the 80vs.80.
Damage Inc. [DI]
Isle of Janthir
So long as the forum remains within well mannered , I wouldn’t be oppose to sharing the love with FA … but when it gets a little much, then I’m not very supportive of it. You guys have come a long way in that regard, and in the event it’s been missed… I’m pretty sure both us (kain) and TC are seeing it.
Consistency speaks volumes though, I won’t label anyone for one offs, but I will commend those with a consistent good nature & respect for their own and opponent alike.
I am so happy all the hard work is finally paying off.
We all love this tier and a large part of that is because of the three server involved. I do not believe the situation in Kaineng is all doom and gloom but there are some valid concerns bought up by a few Kaineng players, primarily the lack of NA and not having a large enough PVE population to draw players in from.
Instead of just worrying about it lets do something about it then. Lets help Kaineng recruit by bumping their thread by sharing our positive thoughts and opinions on Kaineng. I know TC got a lot of love from Kaineng and BG players alike to make our recruitment thread be very effective in recruiting individual players and small guilds. Lets do the same for them. I urge FA players to do the same.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Consider-Transferring-to-Kaineng
I like this, I do. Time to show KA the love they showed us! Spread the love!
Why exactly would KA need to recruit much less need help from the 2 servers it has repeatedly won against? Is KA pushing for T1 or something and you are tring to help? Why not just transfer to KA yourself if that is the case?
KA has been in T2 for 8 weeks now and has come out 1st 5/8 times. So far I’m not seeing a problem. Of the 3 times they did not get 1st they came in 2nd, twice to BG before they moved back to T1 and once last week to TC. FA has yet to beet KA and has only come ahead of TC once in those 8 weeks.
I don’t get it. What’s the problem? I’m all for helping if there is a need, but I’m not seeing it.
- Blackgate
We all love this tier and a large part of that is because of the three server involved. I do not believe the situation in Kaineng is all doom and gloom but there are some valid concerns bought up by a few Kaineng players, primarily the lack of NA and not having a large enough PVE population to draw players in from.
Instead of just worrying about it lets do something about it then. Lets help Kaineng recruit by bumping their thread by sharing our positive thoughts and opinions on Kaineng. I know TC got a lot of love from Kaineng and BG players alike to make our recruitment thread be very effective in recruiting individual players and small guilds. Lets do the same for them. I urge FA players to do the same.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Consider-Transferring-to-Kaineng
I like this, I do. Time to show KA the love they showed us! Spread the love!
Why exactly would KA need to recruit much less need help from the 2 servers it has repeatedly won against? Is KA pushing for T1 or something and you are tring to help? Why not just transfer to KA yourself if that is the case?
KA has been in T2 for 8 weeks now and has come out 1st 5/8 times. So far I’m not seeing a problem. Of the 3 times they did not get 1st they came in 2nd, twice to BG before they moved back to T1 and once last week to TC. FA has yet to beet KA and has only come ahead of TC once in those 8 weeks.
I don’t get it. What’s the problem? I’m all for helping if there is a need, but I’m not seeing it.
My sentiments exactly.
If a server is on it’s way down or up let it happen naturally and give whatever server that deserves the spot….the spot.
[BT]
Fort Aspenwood
I’m personally bummed about a minor change in recent dynamics for both T1 and T2. I had really been excited at the prospect of SoR dropping down to T2 and KN going up to T1. First, because I don’t think we ever fought SoR on FA. If I remember correctly, they skipped over us on their drive up the tiers. Plus, I think SoR is probably the only other server in GW2 that appreciates TC’s “qualities” like FA does.
That could still happen at some point, but seems like SoR has gotten enough transfers to remove that possibility any time soon.
Last words – “I’m going to jump off this cliff
and pull all those guys down cuz they’ll die.”
“I don’t get it. What’s the problem? I’m all for helping if there is a need, but I’m not seeing it.”
I’m kinda feeling the same. It hasn’t even been a full week yet and people are digging a hole for Kain?? What the heck people?
I like our tier and all but I think this is going overboard. Wait a few weeks before the knee jerk reactions happen.
Sheesh
Roamer: 99.99% BLs / 0.01% EB
(edited by Furiousbeard.7602)
We all love this tier and a large part of that is because of the three server involved. I do not believe the situation in Kaineng is all doom and gloom but there are some valid concerns bought up by a few Kaineng players, primarily the lack of NA and not having a large enough PVE population to draw players in from.
Instead of just worrying about it lets do something about it then. Lets help Kaineng recruit by bumping their thread by sharing our positive thoughts and opinions on Kaineng. I know TC got a lot of love from Kaineng and BG players alike to make our recruitment thread be very effective in recruiting individual players and small guilds. Lets do the same for them. I urge FA players to do the same.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Consider-Transferring-to-Kaineng
I like this, I do. Time to show KA the love they showed us! Spread the love!
Why exactly would KA need to recruit much less need help from the 2 servers it has repeatedly won against? Is KA pushing for T1 or something and you are tring to help? Why not just transfer to KA yourself if that is the case?
KA has been in T2 for 8 weeks now and has come out 1st 5/8 times. So far I’m not seeing a problem. Of the 3 times they did not get 1st they came in 2nd, twice to BG before they moved back to T1 and once last week to TC. FA has yet to beet KA and has only come ahead of TC once in those 8 weeks.
I don’t get it. What’s the problem? I’m all for helping if there is a need, but I’m not seeing it.
My sentiments exactly.
If a server is on it’s way down or up let it happen naturally and give whatever server that deserves the spot….the spot.
A Tier is best when all three Servers are competitive and active.
None of us want to be back in T3 where they can’t match our coverage, and most of us don’t want to be in the toxic waste-dump that is T1.
KN and BG both came out and supported TC in our Recruitment thread to help make T2 a better matchup because they appreciated that fact.
We on TC are simply returning the favor, partially in self-interest (to keep the Tier healthy), but I think mostly because KN earned our respect and friendship by being pretty much the most respectful and classy Server we’ve faced.
We all love this tier and a large part of that is because of the three server involved. I do not believe the situation in Kaineng is all doom and gloom but there are some valid concerns bought up by a few Kaineng players, primarily the lack of NA and not having a large enough PVE population to draw players in from.
Instead of just worrying about it lets do something about it then. Lets help Kaineng recruit by bumping their thread by sharing our positive thoughts and opinions on Kaineng. I know TC got a lot of love from Kaineng and BG players alike to make our recruitment thread be very effective in recruiting individual players and small guilds. Lets do the same for them. I urge FA players to do the same.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Consider-Transferring-to-Kaineng
I like this, I do. Time to show KA the love they showed us! Spread the love!
Why exactly would KA need to recruit much less need help from the 2 servers it has repeatedly won against? Is KA pushing for T1 or something and you are tring to help? Why not just transfer to KA yourself if that is the case?
KA has been in T2 for 8 weeks now and has come out 1st 5/8 times. So far I’m not seeing a problem. Of the 3 times they did not get 1st they came in 2nd, twice to BG before they moved back to T1 and once last week to TC. FA has yet to beet KA and has only come ahead of TC once in those 8 weeks.
I don’t get it. What’s the problem? I’m all for helping if there is a need, but I’m not seeing it.
My sentiments exactly.
If a server is on it’s way down or up let it happen naturally and give whatever server that deserves the spot….the spot.
A Tier is best when all three Servers are competitive and active.
None of us want to be back in T3 where they can’t match our coverage, and most of us don’t want to be in the toxic waste-dump that is T1.
KN and BG both came out and supported TC in our Recruitment thread to help make T2 a better matchup because they appreciated that fact.
We on TC are simply returning the favor, partially in self-interest (to keep the Tier healthy), but I think mostly because KN earned our respect and friendship by being pretty much the most respectful and classy Server we’ve faced.
So, an 11k spread between 1st and 3rd place is a sign of an unhealthy tier? The closest score in all the matches other than maybe T8?
Edit to add – You do realize recruiting is nearly a zero sum game right? So, in order to “balance” T2, you need to destabilize other tiers more. It’s fine if that’s what you want to do. People have free will and can choose their servers. Just be honest.
Last words – “I’m going to jump off this cliff
and pull all those guys down cuz they’ll die.”
Do you guys want us to come to your recruitment thread too?
We all love this tier and a large part of that is because of the three server involved. I do not believe the situation in Kaineng is all doom and gloom but there are some valid concerns bought up by a few Kaineng players, primarily the lack of NA and not having a large enough PVE population to draw players in from.
Instead of just worrying about it lets do something about it then. Lets help Kaineng recruit by bumping their thread by sharing our positive thoughts and opinions on Kaineng. I know TC got a lot of love from Kaineng and BG players alike to make our recruitment thread be very effective in recruiting individual players and small guilds. Lets do the same for them. I urge FA players to do the same.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Consider-Transferring-to-Kaineng
Yep. Agreed. They have been fabulous opponents. Time to show them some love, everyone.
How come nobody tried to get us transfers when we came in 3rd place those times?
Generally speaking, TC doesn’t really care for FA.
And besides helping feels good.
I don’t think BT receives nearly as much credit as they deserve; they’re an amazing guild and a HUGE part of FA’s success.
I agree, they are without doubt among the greatest WvW Guilds of our tier. When BT enters your map its a whole new game, probably the same feeling FA or KN guilds get when PiNK shows up on your map. They use portals to very well and have very sound tactics.
As far as numbers go they do tend to attract alot of militia. They get alot of “zergy” comments because they stick together extremely well, providing the illusion of giant zergball when in reality its often equalish numbers. (Sometimes :P)
Very high caliber guild and great to play against!
Tarnished Coast
KN lost 1 group in NA (left gw2) … and are we actively looking to add some more players. We still have dozens of guilds yes, but actively recruiting is always going to be a part of keeping a community full.
I am not certain what it is like on FA, nor TC … but we know we have room for more players on NA timezone. Especially in PST timezone, its one of our gaps I’d like to fill. We have this high early on, but 9pm-1am … I rarely ever see queue pop. I’m just looking to fill in those shoes.
For now I vote TC and Kaineng officially form an alliance, Kaineng Coast? And never invade the others borderlands and just split Fort Aspenweirds (lol) borderlands and 1/3rd of their EB. Then trade wins every other week, yeah!
Joking of course, I know its weird for kain not to be ahead all the time but I think they’re gonna be just fine.
Duey Decimator – Thief
Hexin, you’re more than welcome to recruit to your server as you deem fitting. Recruit because you want to recruit or replace burnout or whatever. Almost all servers do. I just think this sudden proclamation by a few people of T2 being unbalanced is amusing – especially in context of the other tiers or the prior 7 months of WvW.
Last words – “I’m going to jump off this cliff
and pull all those guys down cuz they’ll die.”
KN lost 1 group in NA (left gw2) … and are we actively looking to add some more players. We still have dozens of guilds yes, but actively recruiting is always going to be a part of keeping a community full.
I am not certain what it is like on FA, nor TC … but we know we have room for more players on NA timezone. Especially in PST timezone, its one of our gaps I’d like to fill. We have this high early on, but 9pm-1am … I rarely ever see queue pop. I’m just looking to fill in those shoes.
Yeah we have a gap there too what’s your point?
This Tier is extremely competitive and I don’t think it needs any more players.
[BT]
Fort Aspenwood
KN lost 1 group in NA (left gw2) … and are we actively looking to add some more players. We still have dozens of guilds yes, but actively recruiting is always going to be a part of keeping a community full.
I am not certain what it is like on FA, nor TC … but we know we have room for more players on NA timezone. Especially in PST timezone, its one of our gaps I’d like to fill. We have this high early on, but 9pm-1am … I rarely ever see queue pop. I’m just looking to fill in those shoes.
Yeah we have a gap there too what’s your point?
This Tier is extremely competitive and I don’t think it needs any more players.
My point was answering the question… why is kaineng recruiting? To fill the gap we have.
Many servers have gaps all over, just because I (and the others have been kind <3) want to do something about it … is not understood?
Anyone kno if there’s an ETA for a fix for this bug?^^
Ppl blinking and shadow stepping into silly places~believe me most of the time it is not blinking or shadowstepping.Since the patch I fell through the floor of a tower after enemy capped it. and it happened like 3 times to me.If the enemy is still there i will be stuck in combat and cant wp out.
You’re right, I think anyone can do it, I had a guardian in my zergy who died in a wierd spot near the ramp and after we capped the tower and raised him it put him inside and he coudln’t get out ; ;~
For now I vote TC and Kaineng officially form an alliance, Kaineng Coast? And never invade the others borderlands and just split Fort Aspenweirds (lol) borderlands and 1/3rd of their EB. Then trade wins every other week, yeah!
Joking of course, I know its weird for kain not to be ahead all the time but I think they’re gonna be just fine.
Speaking of alliances, you should have seen EB fridaynight >~<. FA had WC an Kolvan, KN had Aldons and Jerrrifers. 50+ KN on inner of the double doors of the back of the keep, and even more fa on the inner of the front of the Low Lands keep. What was even more HILARIOUS was that our entire keep was at siegelimit cause of the troll/griefer we’ ve been having problems with^^;.
FA doesn’t understand the love!
Come here Kaineng-poo!
[FUNK] Squad
Speaking of alliances, you should have seen EB fridaynight >~<. FA had WC an Kolvan, KN had Aldons and Jerrrifers. 50+ KN on inner of the double doors of the back of the keep, and even more fa on the inner of the front of the Low Lands keep. What was even more HILARIOUS was that our entire keep was at siegelimit cause of the troll/griefer we’ ve been having problems with^^;.
Fort Jaspenwoodeng? Now that just sounds ridiculous =)
Charr Ranger
Fort Aspenwood (www.fort-aspenwood.com)
Lol epic battle in sunnyhill just then. Need more just like that. Thanks for the wxp and bags
Can someone post a score update please?
Lieutenant Stabs – Thief
Night Vision (NV) – Blackgate
Plus, I think SoR is probably the only other server in GW2 that appreciates TC’s “qualities” like FA does.
I think what you meant to say was SOR dislikes us as much as you do!
Yeah we have a gap there too what’s your point?
This Tier is extremely competitive and I don’t think it needs any more players.
Conversely, what’s your point? If somebody on KN wants to recruit to fill their coverage gap, that’s their business. Regardless of what you may think, they’re welcome to do that.
(edited by Usagi.4835)
You quoted his point, “I don’t think it needs any more players”.
Last words – “I’m going to jump off this cliff
and pull all those guys down cuz they’ll die.”
You quoted his point, “I don’t think it needs any more players”.
It was a rhetorical question.
Plus, I think SoR is probably the only other server in GW2 that appreciates TC’s “qualities” like FA does.
I think what you meant to say was SOR dislikes us as much as you do!
Yeah we have a gap there too what’s your point?
This Tier is extremely competitive and I don’t think it needs any more players.
Conversely, what’s your point? If somebody on KN wants to recruit to fill their coverage gap, that’s their business. Regardless of what you may think, they’re welcome to do that.
A TC player named Lanimal started the rally to recruit more players for Kain. I could see if Kain was to start it themselves, but come on. Obviously a few people are uncomfortable with not have certain servers in a lead position.
If more people want to move to Kain, awesome, but let them handle their business before you meddle.
Roamer: 99.99% BLs / 0.01% EB
(edited by Furiousbeard.7602)
FA doesn’t have to like it, but you aren’t going to stop TC from helping out Kain. Why don’t you guys keep that fighting spirit in the game.
Plus, I think SoR is probably the only other server in GW2 that appreciates TC’s “qualities” like FA does.
I think what you meant to say was SOR dislikes us as much as you do!
Yeah we have a gap there too what’s your point?
This Tier is extremely competitive and I don’t think it needs any more players.
Conversely, what’s your point? If somebody on KN wants to recruit to fill their coverage gap, that’s their business. Regardless of what you may think, they’re welcome to do that.
A TC player named Lanimal started the rally to recruit more players for Kain. I could see if Kain was to start it themselves, but come on. Obviously a few people are uncomfortable with not have certain servers in a lead position.
If more people want to move to Kain, awesome, but let handle their business before you meddle.
Except the difference is TC has no actual control over whether or not KN decide to recruit. Lanimal is only encouraging people to leave comments on and bump KN’s recruitment thread so that prospective guilds/players can see why KN might be a server to consider.
FA doesn’t have to like it, but you aren’t going to stop TC from helping out Kain. Why don’t you guys keep that fighting spirit in the game.
I think you misunderstand the FA philosophy when you say stuff like this. Kain can recruit whoever and whenever they want. That’s not a question. And we will fight whoever and whenever they are on.
But it puts Kain in a funny spot. You treat them like children when they are not. And then when a players suggest its given some time, they get attacked for even speaking.
Come on guys and gals. You can’t control everything and not get called out for acting like a sow.
Roamer: 99.99% BLs / 0.01% EB
FA doesn’t have to like it, but you aren’t going to stop TC from helping out Kain. Why don’t you guys keep that fighting spirit in the game.
I think you misunderstand the FA philosophy when you say stuff like this. Kain can recruit whoever and whenever they want. That’s not a question. And we will fight whoever and whenever they are on.
But it puts Kain in a funny spot. You treat them like children when they are not. And then when a players suggest its given some time, they get attacked for even speaking.
Come on guys and gals. You can’t control everything and not get called out for acting like a sow.
No, we are just helping a community that has helped us.
So how bout dem Yankees?