Guild Wars 2

Is there a way to make this possible?
likely really?…

I get its a lot of gold to spend and whatnot but certain people should not be leading…

On JQ for example, we have a particular commander that is an absolute idiot and we seem to loose control of the entire map whenever they are on… further more people quit playing and go do something else rather than deal with their idiocy & obnoxious attitude…

Have you tried supporting the commander?
Have you really tried supporting the commander?
Have you just gone and done your own thing with your own guild instead of supporting the commander?

Don’t lay it all at the commander’s feet, a commander is only as good as the people following him/her.

Personally, I only follow Commanders who are known for being awesome. Not that I have anything against any of them, but some of them are really only good because people follow them around. There is one in particular on DR who I followed at one point, and he did a terrible job of leading, and we somehow failed to take the tower we were attacking. On the other hand, there is one named Smilingknight who is a very good leader and all-around cool dude. When people were in chat complaining about stupid stuff (because some people always find something to complain about), he was kindly telling them to shut it and show some respect for others. He directed us really well, and I picked up on a lot of really handy strategies.

I guess what I’m trying to say is this: They took the time (and/or money) to buy a “FOLLOW ME” badge. That doesn’t mean that they are instantly capable of leading, since it’s bought, not earned, so I would stick with the Commanders who are known for being good.

Incidentally, there has been a huge influx of Commanders on DR, so I only follow the biggest groups, Smilingknight, or my own guildies.

I would happily take a ’demotion’ to get my 100gp back.

If you have a commander who is a known idiot then just don’t follow him?

join a good commander’s squad and you won’t see the bad ones.

they were given plenty of chances, they were just incompetent… and it’s hard to organize any large group of people without a commander symbol over your head… so… when he’s the only one on and in EB… well, things go to hell

Silly thread.

Better to have an ignore option for commanders whose icons you want to turn off.

You could always have your guild pool their money and buy you Commander. If it really means that much to you.

You can ignore a commander icon, but you can’t ignore the lack of numbers on what you’ll be working on since the populace will be with that icon. I can see a bit of leadership to trust in leadership taking shape slowly but I still think that current commanders should get a full refund and raid squads with the squad mechanics should be instituted.

Reinvent the whole system… its not like we would rather have other things.

Gandara has had an influx of new commanders as a lot of guilds transferred over from Underworld. They soon discovered their “DO THIS, DO THAT… NOW!” approach didn’t work. Just cause you have a little blue triangle above you doesn’t mean folks will follow you.

We’re a very community driven WvWvW server, we’ll chat in /team, we’ll have fun during a siege in /say. We’ll communicate with each other and bad commanders who thought they deserved to lead because they had 100g to spend soon discovered they needed to change their approach and they’re all the more better for it.

Play the game how you want to play it, get swept up in a Zerg as it passes and go with the flow or sit on a keep and call out incoming etc… it’s up to you. You could even flit between supply camps gathering resources and watching enemy movements… totally up to you.

The commanders for me are a point of reference for where the action should be happening, whoever’s closest, gets my help or whoever is treating the rest of their group with respect will 9 out of 10 have me by their side

I’ve yet to see a commander actually command. Right now the Commander status is just a bragging statue and nothing more.

When I see the blue arrow pointing down on someone that has the Commander icon, it just tells me “here’s stupid”. It allows me to avoid them.

Crawford.4135:

I’ve yet to see a commander actually command. Right now the Commander status is just a bragging statue and nothing more.

When I see the blue arrow pointing down on someone that has the Commander icon, it just tells me “here’s stupid”. It allows me to avoid them.

This tells me either your server has some really crappy commanders or you don’t WvW. :P

i have to agree there are, well in my case “is” 1 commander i just met recently… just terribad… not all are good and not all are bad; so which commander to follow is up to the rest of us… or at least him/her have the courtesy to turn it off (cmndr icon) when appropriate and necessary

We recently got many new commanders on Miller’s Sound i’ve never seen before (WTJ i guess) and who ask for things like camping the JP. Those are the ones that i generally refuse to follow.

On the other hand, we got some really good commanders like Maxtrum Amens, In Tex or Pino Pechschwarz, the latter one not even being level 80 yet (at least he wasn’t as i saw him the last time).

There are also guys like Emrith who aren’t commander (again, that’s my last info) but can lead really good it’s quite sad that they don’t have a big blue arrow telling me where they are.

I see it as, there bad commanders (many of those who boast and say that so many things went great under their command are the bad ones) and the good ones (generally the ones who use a democratic system to rally people to objectives set by the team and listens to concerns and ideas of others). A fancy symbol isn’t required to be either. The problem is that some people just want any leader, and will follow either good or bad without a care. I am not one of those people. I will only follow the ones who prove themselves to me.

A feature to disable some commander symbols would definitely be useful, but I believe the system needs to change before long. I have seen 4-6 commanders PER MAP. Things will only get worse. Some commander stats, or something similar, would be nice to have along a voting system.

I would like to see the ability for Commanders to use a spectrum slider option to be able to create a custom color for their own Commander icon on the map to differentiate themselves from others.

I don’t think there’s a need for any official system to determine who gets to be commander and who doesn’t; I think, in due time, the good will be sorted from the bad.

If we have a limited number of commanders, that puts an unnecessary burden on individuals who have their own personal schedules. Besides, if people can’t judge which commander to follow, how can they decide which ones to vote for?

On my server (Gandara), we’ve had a couple of solid commanders who have been leading for a while, but we’re also getting an influx of new commanders as each week goes by. I don’t really recognize any of them, and from what I’ve seen they don’t have as good of a sense of strategy, tactics, logistics, or communication but if there’s a zerg with them I’ll try to support and shout out commands along with them or propose new targets. There’s a learning curve and it takes time.

I get that having a lot of commanders running around can be detrimental: this was the case at the last reset, we had 6 commanders on our borderlands and no coordination, and it was disheartening watching our efforts disintegrate despite the abundance of people.

There will be more commanders as more people accumulate wealth, but as that happens the associated prestige and the commanders’ ability to act as a beacon should diminish in turn. Those who first acquired commanders books gained much more notice than people who are just getting their books now. New commanders will have less sway in peak hours, although they’d get the chance to hone their skills in off-peak. Those who fail repeatedly will lose interest in the novelty or will be ignored by core/active players.

It’ll take time for server communities to become more cohesive, as a lot of people are still entering WvW for the first time. There will always be newbies and casuals but if there is a solid base of WvW regulars when they enter then their actions can be directed in a good way.

I think the squad system is something that needs work (and will get it) and certainly there need to be some options for displaying commander icons on the screen. But the current system is something workable (its main advantage is that it provides a high barrier to entry, so it’s something people need to seriously think about). I doubt there’s any system that could be proposed that wouldn’t have some flaw to it.

I have to say that i agree, in a year or so its going to be a massive problem with 10/15 commanders running around on a map. A fair way to do it would be to add a vote every time a new commander joins the world, a simple yes/no to wether they should be able to use the commander icon, that way it will limit the number of commanders running around on a world, and if you get a bad enough reputation that less than 50% of the players say yes to you, you dont deserve to use the commander symbol.

I am selective on the commanders I will follow, and that is only if I am in the mood for zerging around!

If you don’t have the numbers for an assault or defense, you can always make a case for needing bodies in /team for your objective.

I find that usually reason wins out but it might take a little longer with 2-4 blue chips on the field.

As always, be patient in WvW and you will be rewarded!

Even Better bring in a Guild Commander at the cost of 60k influence, if their any good they will have the support of their Guild,
This could easily be added to the level 5 AoW unlocks or even make it a Level 6 auto unlock with a 1 commander per 50 members

ArchDukeCran.4870:

Is there a way to make this possible?
likely really?…

I get its a lot of gold to spend and whatnot but certain people should not be leading…

On JQ for example, we have a particular commander that is an absolute idiot and we seem to loose control of the entire map whenever they are on… further more people quit playing and go do something else rather than deal with their idiocy & obnoxious attitude…

Which commander? I think i know the same one youre talking about but can’t be sure! :P

Commander icons should only be viewable to the guild they are in. That should be the fix.