Guild Wars 2

Don’t really buy that Deso is losing because of nightcapping in this case. Apart from making the score difference even higher so maybe stopping people queuing. They’ve beaten us fair and square, our organisation has just been terrible. It’s easy to blame it on Canadians, about 1am the other day people start saying “Ok here starts nightcapping” but in the attacking group I saw a lot of MoS players, which I think is a French guild, so they’re just well organised.

There is a time of day when both french and canadians are online at the same time and
Desolation just can’t keep up with the numbers.
Last night only Eternal Battlegrounds was evenly matched and was doing pretty well until Desolation
went to sleep. Other borders were pretty much void of Desolation players.

Of course every morning looks like this:

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nidwin.6731:

Arborstone is populated by one of the strongest, if not the strongest, french MMO alliance. Arborstone is the home of MoS, Millenium Old School, and if I’m not mistaken or misguided, Fureur too.

Nuff said.

I don’t know if they have or don’t have any fellas from Quebec but take my word they don’t even need them. They just schedule their playing time as an Alliance and have rotations for night shifts.

We really have appreciated your fighting spirit and the quality of the combats you have led against us to defend your home land. The fights were tough, especially during the weekend and on Wednesday evening.

We all wish you the best for your next match.

Trimsic,
Leader of Millenium Old School.

Trimsic, Nidwin not playing on Desolation or Augury… xD

Eridani.8317:

Don’t really buy that Deso is losing because of nightcapping in this case. Apart from making the score difference even higher so maybe stopping people queuing. They’ve beaten us fair and square, our organisation has just been terrible. It’s easy to blame it on Canadians, about 1am the other day people start saying “Ok here starts nightcapping” but in the attacking group I saw a lot of MoS players, which I think is a French guild, so they’re just well organised.

Big influence for me in this matchup, 2 servers against one in many situations, same nation /group naturally attacks a foreign group if they have to. I´ve often seen Arbor or Augury turn against us instead of fighting each other.

But yea, night capping or a more active wvw community was maybe the main reason why we lost.

Big influence for me in this matchup, 2 servers against one in many situations, same nation /group naturally attacks a foreign group if they have to. I´ve often seen Arbor or Augury turn against us instead of fighting each other.

Hum i’m very doubtful about this.. many guild of the major wvw alliance of AR ( Auld alliance ) and AS ( ES alliance ) fight each other since Daoc / Warhammer and it is no way about alliance, even for a little fight.. Maybe with “pu” ( not pejorative )…
But if you have some guild name acting like that, plz send, need to make some drama on french forum <3

Uder.9187:

Eridani.8317:

Don’t really buy that Deso is losing because of nightcapping in this case. Apart from making the score difference even higher so maybe stopping people queuing. They’ve beaten us fair and square, our organisation has just been terrible. It’s easy to blame it on Canadians, about 1am the other day people start saying “Ok here starts nightcapping” but in the attacking group I saw a lot of MoS players, which I think is a French guild, so they’re just well organised.

Big influence for me in this matchup, 2 servers against one in many situations, same nation /group naturally attacks a foreign group if they have to. I´ve often seen Arbor or Augury turn against us instead of fighting each other.

Stop spreading BS, you should see the french forums and the daily taunts/drama between AR and AS, as pointed out in the post above mine. All servers tend to think the two others are allied against them, it’s called skewed perception.

I know perception is skewed but it definitely has happened to me at least two times that I was aware of, in both instances Arborstone attacked us, broke through our keep into our keep room and then retreated before taking it allowing AR in to take the keep.

I know those two events happened because I was THERE. I don’t know if that was some brief alliance or just a major coincidence and maybe they were having a massive fight outside the keep gates, I don’t know, but one minute we were fighting arbor and the next it was Augury Rock.

SAYING that. AS deserves their victory. Even with their hilariously efficient zerg running around (when you get to watch that from a safe spot it really is fun to see 30-50 frenchies all running one direction then half a minute later all returning the way they came in unison) they were very efficient and knew how to use their zerg.

Not that great in 1v1’s from my experience though, they just work well as a group.

Even with their hilariously efficient zerg running around (when you get to watch that from a safe spot it really is fun to see 30-50 frenchies all running one direction then half a minute later all returning the way they came in unison) they were very efficient and knew how to use their zerg.

It’s a training for kick the kitten of VS out of first place… !

Arborstone certainly won this match with superior team play, AND night zerging.

Desolation deserves last because honestly I’ve seen horrible playing on our part. A few critical issues Desolation suffers from:

- Too many people using WvW as a leveling zone, the largest bulk of players are not 80 (seen by the arrow next to their level). Judging by their gear I’d say most are 10-30. In addition to being less usefull in combat, these are mostly the same players that don’t carry supply, don’t do as told when we finally get a commander (more on that later), farm mobs instead to level up, and generally just take up space.

- People rarely listen, and usually when they do listen, it just comes down to ‘following the shiny commander icon’. They still don’t read chat. If a commander makes one sharp turn, half the zerg would continue moving forward, a completely mindless mass. I often wonder, are they real players or bots? Trying to lead without a commander icon is almost impossible. From time to time people pull it off when we have a group of 30-ish competent people willing to organise themselves, then we end up dragging along the dead-weight zerg behind us, but they often lose interest when something shiny pops up.

- Gold buying/PvE commanders with completely no WvW experience, dragging out the blob to do stupid s**t like farming or camping jumping puzzles, and not working with proper WvW commanders in the same zone. They cause zergs to leave important objectives to do stupid things instead, and basically use the zerg for personal benefit. I really wish the commander skill book had an additional WvW related requirement before being bought. Maybe 200 hours spend inside WvW along with a minimum amount of objective captures? That would atleast tell us “This commander has played a fair amount of WvW and should know the basic mechanics”, where as right now when I see a commander (Unless I know this commander) I think “Oh God please not be another gold buyer with a skill book”. Sadly it is more often the second scenario.

- And finally, a lot of ‘Desolation players’ have no server pride and just transfer to the winning server. Tell me Arborstone, did you not notice guild tags you have seen on Deso, suddenly fight on your side? Have you not noticed some don’t speak French? We got the same issue when Desolation is winning against other servers, the queue’s fill up with people from the two losing servers. Free server transfers with no real limitations, what a great feature…

But all that said, we do have good players, we do have good WvW guilds, but having to put up with the above issues aswell as extreme score gaps, their morale is really low, and most are waiting for this matchup to complete.

Let’s hope next round is more balanced, let’s hope they finally shut down the transfers aswell, otherwise this will repeat. Let’s hope we all end up in a matchup that is fun for all servers involved.

Tell me Arborstone, did you not notice guild tags you have seen on Deso, suddenly fight on your side? Have you not noticed some don’t speak French?

No, I see no english speak on AS, for the guild, it’s very difficult to say, many french guild have english name ( like us … ), maybe the [FR] tag discouraged EU ppl to move.
But, some french player and guild move in AS after we beat other french serv :/