Guild Wars 2

i don’t think JQ is gonna lose their Chinese population in the future , especially if they are playing necro. Just take a look at these, screenshots from the Chinese beta:

Blood Fiend
Flesh Golem
Bone Fiend
Flesh Wurm
Bone Minions

I think all the Chinese Necros will try their best to stay away from the China server. Abominations like these should be killed with fire.

source: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2308813958

It’s part of the culture to not show bones or skeletons, hence the look.

-goes back to eating popcorn-

nglcpyro.4906:

It’s part of the culture to not show bones or skeletons, hence the look.

-goes back to eating popcorn-

Yay! There is plenty to go around. Refill anyone?

Taken about 10 minutes ago

Cirus.5748:

I was like you once. I thought it would never happen to my server, we have a proud history, we are not fair weather, we always fight hard when behind and can handle losing etc etc

The problem is that once a server reaches the top and has tasted the large amount of victories, it becomes corrupt and is more susceptible than ever to collapse. Like a poisoned chalice.

What do HoD, SBI and SoS all have in common? They were the 3 most successful servers in tier 1.

Who succeeded them? Jade Quarry.

Is Jade Quarry immune to collapse? Prior to their success you would say yes, afterwards, I’m not so sure.

The majority of the loyal guilds and players who have been there from day dot, and have been there through the hard times have left SBI and SoS within a short timeframe, the same can happen to JQ or any other server and SoS proved it can still happen after the end of free transfers.

Apparently you don’t understand the history of T1 very well my friend, Understandable, but don’t come on here and post regarding things that you know nothing about.

Do you know what happened right after the HoD collapse? Guess what? JQ took the throne, JQ was in the top spot for some time after HoD’s fall, a few weeks if I recall correctly. After that, there were innumerable cries of “Stacking” and “WvW Stagnation”, much like what we see today. Then, a couple weeks later, the newly revitalized SBI, shot back up and took our top spot from us for another 4 or 5 very competitive weeks. At the end of which, JQ managed to beat SBI, only to witness the rise of SoS. SoS was the dominant server for around 10 weeks, something that i’m sure you will remember.

My point to all this is to let you know that JQ has been at the top, we have experience with both success and failure in T1, and almost nothing has changed. Not to say that our community is somehow stronger or better than any other server, but there is something that just keeps Jade Quarrians playing. I for one, have the utmost confidence that JQ will not collapse. We may have many outspoken forum warriors that pop up when we win, and die away when we are losing, but the core that makes us JQ will always be there.

Chopps.5047:

nglcpyro.4906:

It’s part of the culture to not show bones or skeletons, hence the look.

-goes back to eating popcorn-

Yay! There is plenty to go around. Refill anyone?

yay popcorn..:D

You know…T1 threads should be turned into web comics..it would be like a dramatic operatic comedy :P

Oh man have the last few pages been ugly… I make no apologies for trox (because honestly, I largely agree with him), but the banter on all three sides is kittening ridiculous. He probably should have stopped at one post, but y’all provoked him. You can’t honestly expect a guy to stand aside while people are making bullkitten, unsubstantiated, and targeted claims about him and his guild. And I know, you guys were just defending your server. But lets just cut the bullkitten and play the kitten game, eh?

Good fights up here in T1, from what I’ve seen. Keep fighting the good fight, and stay classy

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

If we end up second again, that just settles the fact the JQ is still winning the coverage wars. I don’t think with the new additions we’ll be coming in third any more, provided they stay.

You are stacked but don’t have coverage? You need to get better organised.

Speaking of servers history just realized that SoR is the server that started on the lowest rank (17) and made it to T1.
Playing there ever since beta with my i.r.l. and game family and friends, cannot make me any prouder!
Great Job SoR!

Akio.1749:

Oh man have the last few pages been ugly… trox should have not started all this (because honestly, I do not agree with him), but lets just cut the bullkitten and play the kitten game, eh?

Good fights up here in T1, from what I’ve seen. Keep fighting the good fight, and stay classy

Edited for you.

Akio.1749:

Oh man have the last few pages been ugly… I make no apologies for trox (because honestly, I largely agree with him), but the banter on all three sides is kittening ridiculous. He probably should have stopped at one post, but y’all provoked him. You can’t honestly expect a guy to stand aside while people are making bullkitten, unsubstantiated, and targeted claims about him and his guild. And I know, you guys were just defending your server. But lets just cut the bullkitten and play the kitten game, eh?

Good fights up here in T1, from what I’ve seen. Keep fighting the good fight, and stay classy

This ws his first post in this thread:

Killtrox.2019:

JQ….why do you put arrow carts in the middle of zerg v zerg fights? Thought T1 was suppose to be this awesome zerg v zerg competition but as I command for RISE I can’t help but notice the disorganization from JQ and some SoR zergs. JQ’s logic – put arrow carts in the middle of fights because our skill isn’t enough, scatter everywhere to make us look like a bigger zerg, run away. I’m noticing SoR getting better with their organization so brownie points for you guys, but man was I disappointed at the competition when we xferred to BG.

Nothing very provocative about that now is there. If you are going to make a first post like that in a match up thread then I guess you should not be surprised at the response. Lets just remember that this is a chump that has just transferred to the T1 match up and because someone deployed some field siege and wiped his team he gets all broken up and comes onto the forum to trash talk his competition. If he is so dissapointed in the competition in T1 then there is an easy answer to that

The fact that you make no apologies for him as an officer in RISE and largely agree with him just speaks volumes for RISE. As I said, your folks are special, quality top to bottom.

Looking forward to many weeks of fighting you folks, endless fun.

General.7803:

First, sry about that I can speak English very well. So I can write wrong or rudely.

Second, Reason – why went to BG.
- first of all, I really sry to KN. we had worked in KN for 4 months but we were dying coz boring battle, not good combination server, and guild’s betrayer etc. so I wanted to go EU for training but we couldn’t coz some reason. So we had to choice 1 battle server.

1. There r many WM’s betrayer is composed +10 NA players who I trained in SoR and they kept talking bad about WM. How can we go to SoR? And many KN player went to SoR coz maybe they want big Zerg.

2. I had received many threat as Mail and whisper from SoR. There r many gentle recommender but there r many rude man. Teatag? About that I was really angry. Even nowadays I have received many threats everydays. How can I go SoR?

If u want to blame me about moving, first, u should to blame them.

3. I had collected data about T1 for 2 weeks before we move. It’s many different about i have heard. I saw BG have worst PPT half of day and server was dying. They is wiped from big JQ and big SoR floater. Also I saw from early Asian zone to lately Asian zone BG 4 borderland didn’t have Que coz they didn’t like to play this time.

4. I always want to play with other Korean. But we always didn’t. So I decided to play in BG’s other Korean for not much remaining my last playtime.

5. WM’s member applied and wanted.

Third, Don’t worry I heard someone saw us about big zerg. Haha. I have seen many liars and mouth coward for 10 months. We always play about 10~+15 at prime time- honestly we don’t have prime time just work 24hours and we just have 50 members. But I have seen always moving big Zerg enemy afraid dying and they laugh to us. If we r bad, don’t talk about us. We r just small guild like battle.

The ultimate measure of man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy…

Polismassa.6740:

Cirus.5748:

I was like you once. I thought it would never happen to my server, we have a proud history, we are not fair weather, we always fight hard when behind and can handle losing etc etc

The problem is that once a server reaches the top and has tasted the large amount of victories, it becomes corrupt and is more susceptible than ever to collapse. Like a poisoned chalice.

What do HoD, SBI and SoS all have in common? They were the 3 most successful servers in tier 1.

Who succeeded them? Jade Quarry.

Is Jade Quarry immune to collapse? Prior to their success you would say yes, afterwards, I’m not so sure.

The majority of the loyal guilds and players who have been there from day dot, and have been there through the hard times have left SBI and SoS within a short timeframe, the same can happen to JQ or any other server and SoS proved it can still happen after the end of free transfers.

Apparently you don’t understand the history of T1 very well my friend, Understandable, but don’t come on here and post regarding things that you know nothing about.

Do you know what happened right after the HoD collapse? Guess what? JQ took the throne, JQ was in the top spot for some time after HoD’s fall, a few weeks if I recall correctly. After that, there were innumerable cries of “Stacking” and “WvW Stagnation”, much like what we see today. Then, a couple weeks later, the newly revitalized SBI, shot back up and took our top spot from us for another 4 or 5 very competitive weeks. At the end of which, JQ managed to beat SBI, only to witness the rise of SoS. SoS was the dominant server for around 10 weeks, something that i’m sure you will remember.

My point to all this is to let you know that JQ has been at the top, we have experience with both success and failure in T1, and almost nothing has changed. Not to say that our community is somehow stronger or better than any other server, but there is something that just keeps Jade Quarrians playing. I for one, have the utmost confidence that JQ will not collapse. We may have many outspoken forum warriors that pop up when we win, and die away when we are losing, but the core that makes us JQ will always be there.

I know exactly what happened, I don’t really want to argue semantics , but JQ didn’t have a period of dominance, they won 2 weeks in a row after HoD and ET collapsed and 1 of those wins was against 2 dying servers which is not on the same level of dominance as the other 3 servers I mentioned.

But now after JQ’s recent 3 months, they have set the records, and once you’ve done that you cannot handle defeat in the same way that you used to.

Most JQ players are now used to winning without even trying, if things get rough there could be a chain reaction and it won’t be for the first time. JQ has already lost the core of the 2 strongest guilds that underpinned the success of JQ, remove the foundations of any structure, no matter how big and it will start to wobble.

I have no idea what’s going to happen, JQ could win the next 5 weeks straight and stabilise themselves, or the whole thing could come crashing down, it’s uncertain. No server is immune to it, no matter what you tell yourself.

Cirus.5748:

Polismassa.6740:

Cirus.5748:

I was like you once. I thought it would never happen to my server, we have a proud history, we are not fair weather, we always fight hard when behind and can handle losing etc etc

The problem is that once a server reaches the top and has tasted the large amount of victories, it becomes corrupt and is more susceptible than ever to collapse. Like a poisoned chalice.

What do HoD, SBI and SoS all have in common? They were the 3 most successful servers in tier 1.

Who succeeded them? Jade Quarry.

Is Jade Quarry immune to collapse? Prior to their success you would say yes, afterwards, I’m not so sure.

The majority of the loyal guilds and players who have been there from day dot, and have been there through the hard times have left SBI and SoS within a short timeframe, the same can happen to JQ or any other server and SoS proved it can still happen after the end of free transfers.

Apparently you don’t understand the history of T1 very well my friend, Understandable, but don’t come on here and post regarding things that you know nothing about.

Do you know what happened right after the HoD collapse? Guess what? JQ took the throne, JQ was in the top spot for some time after HoD’s fall, a few weeks if I recall correctly. After that, there were innumerable cries of “Stacking” and “WvW Stagnation”, much like what we see today. Then, a couple weeks later, the newly revitalized SBI, shot back up and took our top spot from us for another 4 or 5 very competitive weeks. At the end of which, JQ managed to beat SBI, only to witness the rise of SoS. SoS was the dominant server for around 10 weeks, something that i’m sure you will remember.

My point to all this is to let you know that JQ has been at the top, we have experience with both success and failure in T1, and almost nothing has changed. Not to say that our community is somehow stronger or better than any other server, but there is something that just keeps Jade Quarrians playing. I for one, have the utmost confidence that JQ will not collapse. We may have many outspoken forum warriors that pop up when we win, and die away when we are losing, but the core that makes us JQ will always be there.

I know exactly what happened, I don’t really want to argue semantics , but JQ didn’t have a period of dominance, they won 2 weeks in a row after HoD and ET collapsed and 1 of those wins was against 2 dying servers which is not on the same level of dominance as the other 3 servers I mentioned.

But now after JQ’s recent 3 months, they have set the records, and once you’ve done that you cannot handle defeat in the same way that you used to.

Most JQ players are now used to winning without even trying, if things get rough there could be a chain reaction and it won’t be for the first time. JQ has already lost the core of the 2 strongest guilds that underpinned the success of JQ, remove the foundations of any structure, no matter how big and it will start to wobble.

I have no idea what’s going to happen, JQ could win the next 5 weeks straight and stabilise themselves, or the whole thing could come crashing down, it’s uncertain. No server is immune to it, no matter what you tell yourself.

LOL, JQ is fine. I’d worry more about your own server. BG has the population now more than any of the other 3 but the only way you guys can win it seems is from most of your guys playing 25+ hours at a time. You may dominate the other servers in coverage but as far as skill goes, you guys need a lot more help still.

Guilds transfer to BG to die it seems, no guild has gone to BG and gotten stronger, they all lose their playerbase and then quit the game.

BG is a black hole for guilds, good thing they have a never ending supply of gold to keep buying new guilds to come over.

Lol I’m not biting the bait, trolls.

Stay classy guys

Kryyg.8576:

Cirus.5748:

Polismassa.6740:

Cirus.5748:

I was like you once. I thought it would never happen to my server, we have a proud history, we are not fair weather, we always fight hard when behind and can handle losing etc etc

The problem is that once a server reaches the top and has tasted the large amount of victories, it becomes corrupt and is more susceptible than ever to collapse. Like a poisoned chalice.

What do HoD, SBI and SoS all have in common? They were the 3 most successful servers in tier 1.

Who succeeded them? Jade Quarry.

Is Jade Quarry immune to collapse? Prior to their success you would say yes, afterwards, I’m not so sure.

The majority of the loyal guilds and players who have been there from day dot, and have been there through the hard times have left SBI and SoS within a short timeframe, the same can happen to JQ or any other server and SoS proved it can still happen after the end of free transfers.

Apparently you don’t understand the history of T1 very well my friend, Understandable, but don’t come on here and post regarding things that you know nothing about.

Do you know what happened right after the HoD collapse? Guess what? JQ took the throne, JQ was in the top spot for some time after HoD’s fall, a few weeks if I recall correctly. After that, there were innumerable cries of “Stacking” and “WvW Stagnation”, much like what we see today. Then, a couple weeks later, the newly revitalized SBI, shot back up and took our top spot from us for another 4 or 5 very competitive weeks. At the end of which, JQ managed to beat SBI, only to witness the rise of SoS. SoS was the dominant server for around 10 weeks, something that i’m sure you will remember.

My point to all this is to let you know that JQ has been at the top, we have experience with both success and failure in T1, and almost nothing has changed. Not to say that our community is somehow stronger or better than any other server, but there is something that just keeps Jade Quarrians playing. I for one, have the utmost confidence that JQ will not collapse. We may have many outspoken forum warriors that pop up when we win, and die away when we are losing, but the core that makes us JQ will always be there.

I know exactly what happened, I don’t really want to argue semantics , but JQ didn’t have a period of dominance, they won 2 weeks in a row after HoD and ET collapsed and 1 of those wins was against 2 dying servers which is not on the same level of dominance as the other 3 servers I mentioned.

But now after JQ’s recent 3 months, they have set the records, and once you’ve done that you cannot handle defeat in the same way that you used to.

Most JQ players are now used to winning without even trying, if things get rough there could be a chain reaction and it won’t be for the first time. JQ has already lost the core of the 2 strongest guilds that underpinned the success of JQ, remove the foundations of any structure, no matter how big and it will start to wobble.

I have no idea what’s going to happen, JQ could win the next 5 weeks straight and stabilise themselves, or the whole thing could come crashing down, it’s uncertain. No server is immune to it, no matter what you tell yourself.

LOL, JQ is fine. I’d worry more about your own server. BG has the population now more than any of the other 3 but the only way you guys can win it seems is from most of your guys playing 25+ hours at a time. You may dominate the other servers in coverage but as far as skill goes, you guys need a lot more help still.

Guilds transfer to BG to die it seems, no guild has gone to BG and gotten stronger, they all lose their playerbase and then quit the game.

BG is a black hole for guilds, good thing they have a never ending supply of gold to keep buying new guilds to come over.

The irony.

You know, Cirus’ posts are always civil & I’m pretty sure he respects his opponents, but not a post like yours.

Stay classy & have fun!

Akio.1749:

Lol I’m not biting the bait, trolls.

Stay classy guys

<3

I actually love the trash talk. I mean you guys can say what you want. I absolutely love it. It’s fun as hell. :OOOO

Killtrox.2019:

I actually love the trash talk. I mean you guys can say what you want. I absolutely love it. It’s fun as hell. :OOOO

I always say state the obvious, you’ll never be wrong!

I very much love seeing the overinflated ego of some BG members whenever they get a gold… yet I have yet to see them defend a gold for 2 weeks in a row. That’s right it’s usually when the other 2 servers are ‘casually" playing and they pull their longer shifts. Hey BG wanna be a champ defend the Gold for a second week! Other than that backstabbing tactics are cheap but hey all is fair in love and war right? Pick a fight with an opponent, don’t wait until the other 2 servers are engaged to pick on the weaker one at any given moment.
To JQ and SoR great open field fights and strategy this week, BG can learn a thing or 2 from us. Those guilds on BG that are great (WM comes to mind) be careful, this is a great example of the BG attitude, talk trash when winning; then when stomped the following weeks, cry and server jump. No worries, everyone gets to make mistakes when choosing servers lol and we forgive you.

No worries, if we fall down, we will simply pick ourselves up and get back stronger. Pretty good and tough fights since reset, keep it going everyone!

BG fighting!

Mikosan.2187:

I very much love seeing the overinflated ego of some BG members whenever they get a gold… yet I have yet to see them defend a gold for 2 weeks in a row. That’s right it’s usually when the other 2 servers are ‘casually" playing and they pull their longer shifts. Hey BG wanna be a champ defend the Gold for a second week! Other than that backstabbing tactics are cheap but hey all is fair in love and war right? Pick a fight with an opponent, don’t wait until the other 2 servers are engaged to pick on the weaker one at any given moment.
To JQ and SoR great open field fights and strategy this week, BG can learn a thing or 2 from us. Those guilds on BG that are great (WM comes to mind) be careful, this is a great example of the BG attitude, talk trash when winning; then when stomped the following weeks, cry and server jump. No worries, everyone gets to make mistakes when choosing servers lol and we forgive you.

Are you really basing your opinion of BG from the posts of a few individuals? This forum is one thing, but the in-game WvW is different, ijs. I could note some forum trolls from the other 2 servers as well, but that doesn’t mean they reflect their server’s attitude at all.

Zen.8497:

Speaking of servers history just realized that SoR is the server that started on the lowest rank (17) and made it to T1.
Playing there ever since beta with my i.r.l. and game family and friends, cannot make me any prouder!
Great Job SoR!

I actually went and checked there and you actually jumped directly to T3 by winning

58 919
475 702
101 471
I mean you clearly did not belong in that tier. After that you just spent months in T3 until you got more guilds.

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3.

RISE is the new iCoa on the forum…

DKNS.2135:

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3 so its nothing to be all proud about.

17-14-14-9-7-5(x11)-4-4-2(x5)-3(x4)-2-2-3-3

There complete history lesson.

Early in the game, it was far easier to jump ranks. SoR has been slow and steady.

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

Speaking of servers history just realized that SoR is the server that started on the lowest rank (17) and made it to T1.
Playing there ever since beta with my i.r.l. and game family and friends, cannot make me any prouder!
Great Job SoR!

I actually went and checked there and you actually jumped directly to T3 by winning 58 919
475 702
101 471
I mean you clearly did not belong in that tier. After that you just spent months in T3 until you got more guilds.

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3 so its nothing to be all proud about.

SoR actually fought from rank 17. The only reason it actually skyrocketed was due to the actual organization and utilization of ts. SoR only received 2 guilds when we moved from r17 (TW and CDS) that I know of. But despite this, a major wvwvw guild on SoR began to die out (EPIC). But that was enough to get SoR to r5 where we were stomped by BG for several weeks.

Pvp.2758:

RISE is the new iCoa on the forum…

Even though outmanned, someone has to stand up against the other servers’ forum warriors

kyro.8162:

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

Speaking of servers history just realized that SoR is the server that started on the lowest rank (17) and made it to T1.
Playing there ever since beta with my i.r.l. and game family and friends, cannot make me any prouder!
Great Job SoR!

I actually went and checked there and you actually jumped directly to T3 by winning 58 919
475 702
101 471
I mean you clearly did not belong in that tier. After that you just spent months in T3 until you got more guilds.

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3 so its nothing to be all proud about.

SoR actually fought from rank 17. The only reason it actually skyrocketed was due to the actual organization and utilization of ts. SoR only received 2 guilds when we moved from r17 (TW and CDS) that I know of. But despite this, a major wvwvw guild on SoR began to die out (EPIC). But that was enough to get SoR to r5 where we were stomped by BG for several weeks.

Isn’t that what i just said ?? You already had the potential. As soon as you utilised TS and got some co-ordination going, you started jumping servers and eventually reached where you belonged quickly. For once in my life, i am actually praising you lot and already the forums warriors are on me.

The obvious point was that it would be a big achievement if you struggled through each tiers gradually reaching the top while maintaining stability. But you just roflstomped everyone on the way to T3 (where you should have been in the first place to start with) as soon as you got your kitten together.

DKNS.2135:

kyro.8162:

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

Speaking of servers history just realized that SoR is the server that started on the lowest rank (17) and made it to T1.
Playing there ever since beta with my i.r.l. and game family and friends, cannot make me any prouder!
Great Job SoR!

I actually went and checked there and you actually jumped directly to T3 by winning 58 919
475 702
101 471
I mean you clearly did not belong in that tier. After that you just spent months in T3 until you got more guilds.

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3 so its nothing to be all proud about.

SoR actually fought from rank 17. The only reason it actually skyrocketed was due to the actual organization and utilization of ts. SoR only received 2 guilds when we moved from r17 (TW and CDS) that I know of. But despite this, a major wvwvw guild on SoR began to die out (EPIC). But that was enough to get SoR to r5 where we were stomped by BG for several weeks.

Isn’t that what i just said ?? You already had the potential. As soon as you utilised TS and got some co-ordination going, you started jumping servers and eventually reached where you belonged quickly. For once in my life, i am actually praising you lot and already the forums warriors are on me.

Was hard to tell considering the part of spending months in T3, which was actually T2

Whoa whoa whoa. SoR complaining about transfers to other servers but not their own? Please stop the accusations! Everyone knows that the transfers to JQ and BG are all bandwagoners but those to SoR are “building the server right”. You can’t even compare.

Besides, SoR never buys guilds like other servers. That gold that was put together to help their new servermates transfer? Those were just “donations”. Completely different thing!

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

Speaking of servers history just realized that SoR is the server that started on the lowest rank (17) and made it to T1.
Playing there ever since beta with my i.r.l. and game family and friends, cannot make me any prouder!
Great Job SoR!

I actually went and checked there and you actually jumped directly to T3 by winning 58 919
475 702
101 471
I mean you clearly did not belong in that tier. After that you just spent months in T3 until you got more guilds.

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3.

Actually SoR went from T6 to T5 skipped only T4 to move for a week in T3 then T2 and T1. Please pay attention and get your facts straight.
But then to quote you again… " I have never understood this flawed saying. If the king is dead, why are you wishing for him to live long ??"

cyyrix.6105:

Whoa whoa whoa. SoR complaining about transfers to other servers but not their own? Please stop the accusations! Everyone knows that the transfers to JQ and BG are all bandwagoners but those to SoR are “building the server right”. You can’t even compare.

Besides, SoR never buys guilds like other servers. That gold that was put together to help their new servermates transfer? Those were just “donations”. Completely different thing!

I know right?

As someone from SoR said a few weeks back,
SoS guilds to BG → Bandwaggoners
SoS guilds to SoR → True WvW guilds of SoS

Zen.8497:

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

Speaking of servers history just realized that SoR is the server that started on the lowest rank (17) and made it to T1.
Playing there ever since beta with my i.r.l. and game family and friends, cannot make me any prouder!
Great Job SoR!

I actually went and checked there and you actually jumped directly to T3 by winning 58 919
475 702
101 471
I mean you clearly did not belong in that tier. After that you just spent months in T3 until you got more guilds.

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3.

Actually SoR went from T6 to T5 skipped only T4 to move for a week in T3 then T2 and T1. Please pay attention and get your facts straight.
But then to quote you again… " I have never understood this flawed saying. If the king is dead, why are you wishing for him to live long ??"

Ok buddy, here is your server history :

T5 -> T3
58 919
475 702
101 471
and then

T3 -> T2
540 119
63 309
15 986

So go on, please tell me more about how you were placed in the correct tier and that you fought hard evenly matched battles to the top. Also, the usual one that you didn’t get any transfers, etc.

I wasn’t gonna say it but since you have the manners to post my messages around, the fact is i find your Signature highly Ironic seeing all of your postings on the forums.

Score update for those of us “stuck” outside bbqing all day?

Chasan.3521:

Score update for those of us “stuck” outside bbqing all day?

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

Speaking of servers history just realized that SoR is the server that started on the lowest rank (17) and made it to T1.
Playing there ever since beta with my i.r.l. and game family and friends, cannot make me any prouder!
Great Job SoR!

I actually went and checked there and you actually jumped directly to T3 by winning 58 919
475 702
101 471
I mean you clearly did not belong in that tier. After that you just spent months in T3 until you got more guilds.

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3.

Actually SoR went from T6 to T5 skipped only T4 to move for a week in T3 then T2 and T1. Please pay attention and get your facts straight.
But then to quote you again… " I have never understood this flawed saying. If the king is dead, why are you wishing for him to live long ??"

Ok buddy, here is your server history :

T5 -> T3
58 919
475 702
101 471
and then

T3 -> T2
540 119
63 309
15 986

So go on, please tell me more about how you were placed in the correct tier and that you fought hard evenly matched battles to the top. Also, the usual one that you didn’t get any transfers, etc.

I wasn’t gonna say it but since you have the manners to post my messages around, the fact is i find your Signature highly Ironical seeing all of your postings on the forums.

There below, the simple and unbiased truth…
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/41/
Somebody said … “Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense.”

The king is dead, long live the king!

Please stop derailing threads. No one cares about a servers history. It’s now that matters, and history only matters when it repeats itself.

Akio.1749:

Lol I’m not biting the bait, trolls.

Stay classy guys

As long as that applies to your guild as well then thats good with me. Let us see shall we. As for the bait, well if you don’t want people to respond, simple answer, don’t post.

Raven Paradox.1860:

Please stop derailing threads. No one cares about a servers history. It’s now that matters, and history only matters when it repeats itself.

Does it even matter ?? If its not this, the thread will be going on about guild transfer kittens, If not that then it will be about some server overtiming while other is taking a break and if not that it will be about 2v1 and the denial of 2v1s from other servers. Basically, there is always some kitten going on here. Unless everyone resolves, the threads were and always will be derailed.

SoR needs to play against Maguuma so we can find the real t1 forum warrior server

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

Speaking of servers history just realized that SoR is the server that started on the lowest rank (17) and made it to T1.
Playing there ever since beta with my i.r.l. and game family and friends, cannot make me any prouder!
Great Job SoR!

I actually went and checked there and you actually jumped directly to T3 by winning 58 919
475 702
101 471
I mean you clearly did not belong in that tier. After that you just spent months in T3 until you got more guilds.

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3.

Actually SoR went from T6 to T5 skipped only T4 to move for a week in T3 then T2 and T1. Please pay attention and get your facts straight.
But then to quote you again… " I have never understood this flawed saying. If the king is dead, why are you wishing for him to live long ??"

Ok buddy, here is your server history :

T5 -> T3
58 919
475 702
101 471
and then

T3 -> T2
540 119
63 309
15 986

So go on, please tell me more about how you were placed in the correct tier and that you fought hard evenly matched battles to the top. Also, the usual one that you didn’t get any transfers, etc.

I wasn’t gonna say it but since you have the manners to post my messages around, the fact is i find your Signature highly Ironical seeing all of your postings on the forums.

There below, the simple and unbiased truth…
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/41/
Somebody said … “Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense.”

The king is dead, long live the king!

Where else did you think i got my numbers from ?? Like seriously ?? kitten, if that signature isn’t kitten ironic, i don’t know what is.

I mean you have missed a lot of info there and was just trying to help you save some of that time typing…
That’s what the links are for and would only make sense to use them.
Keep up the great work.

Anyhow, can someone please post a score update?

DKNS.2135:

cyyrix.6105:

Whoa whoa whoa. SoR complaining about transfers to other servers but not their own? Please stop the accusations! Everyone knows that the transfers to JQ and BG are all bandwagoners but those to SoR are “building the server right”. You can’t even compare.

Besides, SoR never buys guilds like other servers. That gold that was put together to help their new servermates transfer? Those were just “donations”. Completely different thing!

I know right?

As someone from SoR said a few weeks back,
SoS guilds to BG -> Bandwaggoners
SoS guilds to SoR -> True WvW guilds of SoS

If you ask any sensible SoR member, everyone will agree that we have gotten transfers, and we’re quite thankful for it. All of our friends in TSYM, AFS, HIRE and so on (I can’t recall everyone off the top of my head, I’m sorry! ) are valued members of our community and WvW strategy. I think the idea of bandwagoning simply comes from the volume of transfers; when SoS disbanded, Blackgate got what was perceived to be a much larger influx of guilds than SoR, hence the “stacking” accusations and whatnot. You cannot deny that your WvW capacity spiked as a result. Similarly with Kaineng, Blackgate received multiple guilds in one go, while SoR has received a number of guilds over the last few weeks in a more spread out manner. The difference is simply whether your WvW population increases in spikes, or incrementally.

As far as SoR donating gold: I listen in to our weekly WvW strategy meetings on TS, and the one thing that gets repeated and stressed every week is that we will not offer gold to other guilds. Should they choose to come over, we will be glad to run dungeons and help other guilds farm for gold, and I’m pretty sure we would also have folks who simply donated gold. However, I think that on principle, this is different from “buying” guilds. I’m sure we can accommodate transferring the last remaining members or whatnot, but we wouldn’t simply say “we’ll give you X gold to transfer,” nor would we meet demands of that nature. Our belief is that you should come to SoR because you want to be here, and if you aren’t willing to put in the time (to acquire gold) to immigrate over, then I’m not so sure how strong your commitment is.

Balefire.7592:

DKNS.2135:

cyyrix.6105:

Whoa whoa whoa. SoR complaining about transfers to other servers but not their own? Please stop the accusations! Everyone knows that the transfers to JQ and BG are all bandwagoners but those to SoR are “building the server right”. You can’t even compare.

Besides, SoR never buys guilds like other servers. That gold that was put together to help their new servermates transfer? Those were just “donations”. Completely different thing!

I know right?

As someone from SoR said a few weeks back,
SoS guilds to BG -> Bandwaggoners
SoS guilds to SoR -> True WvW guilds of SoS

If you ask any sensible SoR member, everyone will agree that we have gotten transfers, and we’re quite thankful for it. All of our friends in TSYM, AFS, HIRE and so on (I can’t recall everyone off the top of my head, I’m sorry! ) are valued members of our community and WvW strategy. I think the idea of bandwagoning simply comes from the volume of transfers; when SoS disbanded, Blackgate got what was perceived to be a much larger influx of guilds than SoR, hence the “stacking” accusations and whatnot. You cannot deny that your WvW capacity spiked as a result. Similarly with Kaineng, Blackgate received multiple guilds in one go, while SoR has received a number of guilds over the last few weeks in a more spread out manner. The difference is simply whether your WvW population increases in spikes, or incrementally.

As far as SoR donating gold: I listen in to our weekly WvW strategy meetings on TS, and the one thing that gets repeated and stressed every week is that we will not offer gold to other guilds. Should they choose to come over, we will be glad to run dungeons and help other guilds farm for gold, and I’m pretty sure we would also have folks who simply donated gold. However, I think that on principle, this is different from “buying” guilds. I’m sure we can accommodate transferring the last remaining members or whatnot, but we wouldn’t simply say “we’ll give you X gold to transfer,” nor would we meet demands of that nature. Our belief is that you should come to SoR because you want to be here, and if you aren’t willing to put in the time (to acquire gold) to immigrate over, then I’m not so sure how strong your commitment is.

BG -> 2 Major guilds (MERC, ND) and AoI (a combination of small guids)
SoR -> 2 Major guilds (TSym, AFS) and OCX (PvX guild)

So what difference does it make ??

And in the same way that you say that you help other guilds transferring by running dungeons to help some members to come, every other server does the same as well. So basically, BG has done nothing different from the almighty SoR and yet they have to take kitten from your forum warriors week after week. KN choosing us was totally from their side and it would probably have to do with the excellent relations BG had with TC & KN. I wasn’t there when SoR was T2 but if this is the way SoR used to deal with the match threads and PR, are you honestly surprised that KN chose us ?? And in the rare event that BG implodes, do you think any of us would ever consider going to your server because of all this ?? Same with the KN guilds, think about it.

DKNS.2135:

Balefire.7592:

DKNS.2135:

cyyrix.6105:

Whoa whoa whoa. SoR complaining about transfers to other servers but not their own? Please stop the accusations! Everyone knows that the transfers to JQ and BG are all bandwagoners but those to SoR are “building the server right”. You can’t even compare.

Besides, SoR never buys guilds like other servers. That gold that was put together to help their new servermates transfer? Those were just “donations”. Completely different thing!

I know right?

As someone from SoR said a few weeks back,
SoS guilds to BG -> Bandwaggoners
SoS guilds to SoR -> True WvW guilds of SoS

If you ask any sensible SoR member, everyone will agree that we have gotten transfers, and we’re quite thankful for it. All of our friends in TSYM, AFS, HIRE and so on (I can’t recall everyone off the top of my head, I’m sorry! ) are valued members of our community and WvW strategy. I think the idea of bandwagoning simply comes from the volume of transfers; when SoS disbanded, Blackgate got what was perceived to be a much larger influx of guilds than SoR, hence the “stacking” accusations and whatnot. You cannot deny that your WvW capacity spiked as a result. Similarly with Kaineng, Blackgate received multiple guilds in one go, while SoR has received a number of guilds over the last few weeks in a more spread out manner. The difference is simply whether your WvW population increases in spikes, or incrementally.

As far as SoR donating gold: I listen in to our weekly WvW strategy meetings on TS, and the one thing that gets repeated and stressed every week is that we will not offer gold to other guilds. Should they choose to come over, we will be glad to run dungeons and help other guilds farm for gold, and I’m pretty sure we would also have folks who simply donated gold. However, I think that on principle, this is different from “buying” guilds. I’m sure we can accommodate transferring the last remaining members or whatnot, but we wouldn’t simply say “we’ll give you X gold to transfer,” nor would we meet demands of that nature. Our belief is that you should come to SoR because you want to be here, and if you aren’t willing to put in the time (to acquire gold) to immigrate over, then I’m not so sure how strong your commitment is.

BG -> 2 Major guilds (MERC, ND) and AoI (a combination of small guids)
SoR -> 2 Major guilds (TSym, AFS) and OCX (PvX guild)

So what difference does it make ??

And in the same way that you say that you help other guilds transferring by running dungeons to help some members to come, every other server does the same as well. So basically, BG has done nothing different from the almighty SoR and yet they have to take kitten from your forum warriors week after week. KN choosing us was totally from their side and it would probably have to do with the excellent relations BG had with TC & KN. I wasn’t there when SoR was T2 but if this is the way SoR used to deal with KN and TC in the match threads, are you honestly surprised that KN chose us ?? And in the rare event that BG implodes, do you think any of us would ever consider going to your server because of all this ?? Same with the KN guilds, think about it.

Wishful thinking is one thing and reality another…
Please click on the link below:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/41/

DKNS.2135:

BG -> 2 Major guilds (MERC, ND) and AoI (a combination of small guids)
SoR -> 2 Major guilds (TSym, AFS) and OCX (PvX guild)

So what difference does it make ??

And in the same way that you say that you help other guilds transferring by running dungeons to help some members to come, every other server does the same as well. So basically, BG has done nothing different from the almighty SoR and yet he have to take kitten from your forum warriors week after week. KN choosing us was totally from their side and it would probably have to do with the excellent relations BG had with TC & KN.

If BG also does not buy guilds, I think that’s great for you guys. I personally don’t think BG has done anything wrong, and I welcome the challenge of new opponents. All I can say is that Blackgate received large numbers of players all at once, and that can be perceived differently.
I agree that the trolling, flame-baiting and kitten-talking in here is excessive. However, you have to keep things in context as well; us over at SoR had to sustain 8 long weeks of Blackgate’s forum tormenting in Tier 2 simply because we didn’t have the numbers during non-NA hours to compete with you. That left several people with a bone to pick with Blackgate. And Blackgate hasn’t stopped either; look at Vodka’s recent posting history, or at Killtrox’s tirade over the last two pages. If others came in here looking to transfer, do you think they would be much more impressed with Blackgate? Nobody can control how other servers perceive their own because no one can control all of the people.
Forums will be forums, that’s just how it is. I don’t think forum warriors are representative of their community, and I think it would be rather ignorant of any person to assume so. I urge you to ignore their claims; I stopped taking certain BG posters seriously some time ago, and my forum experience has improved.

Zen.8497:

DKNS.2135:

Balefire.7592:

DKNS.2135:

cyyrix.6105:

Whoa whoa whoa. SoR complaining about transfers to other servers but not their own? Please stop the accusations! Everyone knows that the transfers to JQ and BG are all bandwagoners but those to SoR are “building the server right”. You can’t even compare.

Besides, SoR never buys guilds like other servers. That gold that was put together to help their new servermates transfer? Those were just “donations”. Completely different thing!

I know right?

As someone from SoR said a few weeks back,
SoS guilds to BG -> Bandwaggoners
SoS guilds to SoR -> True WvW guilds of SoS

If you ask any sensible SoR member, everyone will agree that we have gotten transfers, and we’re quite thankful for it. All of our friends in TSYM, AFS, HIRE and so on (I can’t recall everyone off the top of my head, I’m sorry! ) are valued members of our community and WvW strategy. I think the idea of bandwagoning simply comes from the volume of transfers; when SoS disbanded, Blackgate got what was perceived to be a much larger influx of guilds than SoR, hence the “stacking” accusations and whatnot. You cannot deny that your WvW capacity spiked as a result. Similarly with Kaineng, Blackgate received multiple guilds in one go, while SoR has received a number of guilds over the last few weeks in a more spread out manner. The difference is simply whether your WvW population increases in spikes, or incrementally.

As far as SoR donating gold: I listen in to our weekly WvW strategy meetings on TS, and the one thing that gets repeated and stressed every week is that we will not offer gold to other guilds. Should they choose to come over, we will be glad to run dungeons and help other guilds farm for gold, and I’m pretty sure we would also have folks who simply donated gold. However, I think that on principle, this is different from “buying” guilds. I’m sure we can accommodate transferring the last remaining members or whatnot, but we wouldn’t simply say “we’ll give you X gold to transfer,” nor would we meet demands of that nature. Our belief is that you should come to SoR because you want to be here, and if you aren’t willing to put in the time (to acquire gold) to immigrate over, then I’m not so sure how strong your commitment is.

BG -> 2 Major guilds (MERC, ND) and AoI (a combination of small guids)
SoR -> 2 Major guilds (TSym, AFS) and OCX (PvX guild)

So what difference does it make ??

And in the same way that you say that you help other guilds transferring by running dungeons to help some members to come, every other server does the same as well. So basically, BG has done nothing different from the almighty SoR and yet they have to take kitten from your forum warriors week after week. KN choosing us was totally from their side and it would probably have to do with the excellent relations BG had with TC & KN. I wasn’t there when SoR was T2 but if this is the way SoR used to deal with KN and TC in the match threads, are you honestly surprised that KN chose us ?? And in the rare event that BG implodes, do you think any of us would ever consider going to your server because of all this ?? Same with the KN guilds, think about it.

Wishful thinking is one thing and reality another…
Please click on the link below:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/41/

Ugh, what’s wrong with you ?? I already said i wasn’t there. I am just saying to calm down on the continuous BG flaming and just enjoy because in the end, it just affects your server’s public image.

You know what, don’t bother. Just continue with it. In the end, it will only benefit us when any guild looking to transfer comes and looks around. Go on, continue with it. I really dunno why i even bothered.

Balefire.7592:

DKNS.2135:

BG -> 2 Major guilds (MERC, ND) and AoI (a combination of small guids)
SoR -> 2 Major guilds (TSym, AFS) and OCX (PvX guild)

So what difference does it make ??

And in the same way that you say that you help other guilds transferring by running dungeons to help some members to come, every other server does the same as well. So basically, BG has done nothing different from the almighty SoR and yet he have to take kitten from your forum warriors week after week. KN choosing us was totally from their side and it would probably have to do with the excellent relations BG had with TC & KN.

If BG also does not buy guilds, I think that’s great for you guys. I personally don’t think BG has done anything wrong, and I welcome the challenge of new opponents. All I can say is that Blackgate received large numbers of players all at once, and that can be perceived differently.
I agree that the trolling, flame-baiting and kitten-talking in here is excessive. However, you have to keep things in context as well; us over at SoR had to sustain 8 long weeks of Blackgate’s forum tormenting in Tier 2 simply because we didn’t have the numbers during non-NA hours to compete with you. That left several people with a bone to pick with Blackgate. And Blackgate hasn’t stopped either; look at Vodka’s recent posting history, or at Killtrox’s tirade over the last two pages. If others came in here looking to transfer, do you think they would be much more impressed with Blackgate? Nobody can control how other servers perceive their own because no one can control all of the people.
Forums will be forums, that’s just how it is. I don’t think forum warriors are representative of their community, and I think it would be rather ignorant of any person to assume so. I urge you to ignore their claims; I stopped taking certain BG posters seriously some time ago, and my forum experience has improved.

I have always ignored it but sometimes it just cant be ignored. I come here looking for what’s going on when i am not in-game and all i say is kittening everywhere. Also, being from SoS, i dunno about your rivalry from T2 but on the official WvW site, BG always discourages people from posting kitten here including 2v1 claims. And Killtrox just moved here, i don’t think it’s fair to bring him into this. Anyways, i am done with this. Sadly, nothing will change i guess and this thread will remain kitten :\

Kryyg.8576:

Cirus.5748:

Polismassa.6740:

Cirus.5748:

I was like you once. I thought it would never happen to my server, we have a proud history, we are not fair weather, we always fight hard when behind and can handle losing etc etc

The problem is that once a server reaches the top and has tasted the large amount of victories, it becomes corrupt and is more susceptible than ever to collapse. Like a poisoned chalice.

What do HoD, SBI and SoS all have in common? They were the 3 most successful servers in tier 1.

Who succeeded them? Jade Quarry.

Is Jade Quarry immune to collapse? Prior to their success you would say yes, afterwards, I’m not so sure.

The majority of the loyal guilds and players who have been there from day dot, and have been there through the hard times have left SBI and SoS within a short timeframe, the same can happen to JQ or any other server and SoS proved it can still happen after the end of free transfers.

Apparently you don’t understand the history of T1 very well my friend, Understandable, but don’t come on here and post regarding things that you know nothing about.

Do you know what happened right after the HoD collapse? Guess what? JQ took the throne, JQ was in the top spot for some time after HoD’s fall, a few weeks if I recall correctly. After that, there were innumerable cries of “Stacking” and “WvW Stagnation”, much like what we see today. Then, a couple weeks later, the newly revitalized SBI, shot back up and took our top spot from us for another 4 or 5 very competitive weeks. At the end of which, JQ managed to beat SBI, only to witness the rise of SoS. SoS was the dominant server for around 10 weeks, something that i’m sure you will remember.

My point to all this is to let you know that JQ has been at the top, we have experience with both success and failure in T1, and almost nothing has changed. Not to say that our community is somehow stronger or better than any other server, but there is something that just keeps Jade Quarrians playing. I for one, have the utmost confidence that JQ will not collapse. We may have many outspoken forum warriors that pop up when we win, and die away when we are losing, but the core that makes us JQ will always be there.

I know exactly what happened, I don’t really want to argue semantics , but JQ didn’t have a period of dominance, they won 2 weeks in a row after HoD and ET collapsed and 1 of those wins was against 2 dying servers which is not on the same level of dominance as the other 3 servers I mentioned.

But now after JQ’s recent 3 months, they have set the records, and once you’ve done that you cannot handle defeat in the same way that you used to.

Most JQ players are now used to winning without even trying, if things get rough there could be a chain reaction and it won’t be for the first time. JQ has already lost the core of the 2 strongest guilds that underpinned the success of JQ, remove the foundations of any structure, no matter how big and it will start to wobble.

I have no idea what’s going to happen, JQ could win the next 5 weeks straight and stabilise themselves, or the whole thing could come crashing down, it’s uncertain. No server is immune to it, no matter what you tell yourself.

LOL, JQ is fine. I’d worry more about your own server. BG has the population now more than any of the other 3 but the only way you guys can win it seems is from most of your guys playing 25+ hours at a time. You may dominate the other servers in coverage but as far as skill goes, you guys need a lot more help still.

Guilds transfer to BG to die it seems, no guild has gone to BG and gotten stronger, they all lose their playerbase and then quit the game.

BG is a black hole for guilds, good thing they have a never ending supply of gold to keep buying new guilds to come over.

Honestly, don’t listen to Cirus. MERC was one of the first guilds to leave and a large part of why SoS collapsed in a whole. He speaks from his own experiences of weakness.

He’s giving a commentary of his own guild. It’s a bit stupid that he’s trying to explain any of this to you.

Keep doing your thing JQ. The only thing MERC is good at when dealing with adversity is packing their bags.

Balefire.7592:

DKNS.2135:

cyyrix.6105:

Whoa whoa whoa. SoR complaining about transfers to other servers but not their own? Please stop the accusations! Everyone knows that the transfers to JQ and BG are all bandwagoners but those to SoR are “building the server right”. You can’t even compare.

Besides, SoR never buys guilds like other servers. That gold that was put together to help their new servermates transfer? Those were just “donations”. Completely different thing!

I know right?

As someone from SoR said a few weeks back,
SoS guilds to BG -> Bandwaggoners
SoS guilds to SoR -> True WvW guilds of SoS

If you ask any sensible SoR member, everyone will agree that we have gotten transfers, and we’re quite thankful for it. All of our friends in TSYM, AFS, HIRE and so on (I can’t recall everyone off the top of my head, I’m sorry! ) are valued members of our community and WvW strategy. I think the idea of bandwagoning simply comes from the volume of transfers; when SoS disbanded, Blackgate got what was perceived to be a much larger influx of guilds than SoR, hence the “stacking” accusations and whatnot. You cannot deny that your WvW capacity spiked as a result. Similarly with Kaineng, Blackgate received multiple guilds in one go, while SoR has received a number of guilds over the last few weeks in a more spread out manner. The difference is simply whether your WvW population increases in spikes, or incrementally.

As far as SoR donating gold: I listen in to our weekly WvW strategy meetings on TS, and the one thing that gets repeated and stressed every week is that we will not offer gold to other guilds. Should they choose to come over, we will be glad to run dungeons and help other guilds farm for gold, and I’m pretty sure we would also have folks who simply donated gold. However, I think that on principle, this is different from “buying” guilds. I’m sure we can accommodate transferring the last remaining members or whatnot, but we wouldn’t simply say “we’ll give you X gold to transfer,” nor would we meet demands of that nature. Our belief is that you should come to SoR because you want to be here, and if you aren’t willing to put in the time (to acquire gold) to immigrate over, then I’m not so sure how strong your commitment is.

Wow. I just made that post as a joke. I’m seriously impressed that you wordsmithed yourself into actually believing those things.

DKNS.2135:

Zen.8497:

DKNS.2135:

Balefire.7592:

DKNS.2135:

cyyrix.6105:

Whoa whoa whoa. SoR complaining about transfers to other servers but not their own? Please stop the accusations! Everyone knows that the transfers to JQ and BG are all bandwagoners but those to SoR are “building the server right”. You can’t even compare.

Besides, SoR never buys guilds like other servers. That gold that was put together to help their new servermates transfer? Those were just “donations”. Completely different thing!

I know right?

As someone from SoR said a few weeks back,
SoS guilds to BG -> Bandwaggoners
SoS guilds to SoR -> True WvW guilds of SoS

If you ask any sensible SoR member, everyone will agree that we have gotten transfers, and we’re quite thankful for it. All of our friends in TSYM, AFS, HIRE and so on (I can’t recall everyone off the top of my head, I’m sorry! ) are valued members of our community and WvW strategy. I think the idea of bandwagoning simply comes from the volume of transfers; when SoS disbanded, Blackgate got what was perceived to be a much larger influx of guilds than SoR, hence the “stacking” accusations and whatnot. You cannot deny that your WvW capacity spiked as a result. Similarly with Kaineng, Blackgate received multiple guilds in one go, while SoR has received a number of guilds over the last few weeks in a more spread out manner. The difference is simply whether your WvW population increases in spikes, or incrementally.

As far as SoR donating gold: I listen in to our weekly WvW strategy meetings on TS, and the one thing that gets repeated and stressed every week is that we will not offer gold to other guilds. Should they choose to come over, we will be glad to run dungeons and help other guilds farm for gold, and I’m pretty sure we would also have folks who simply donated gold. However, I think that on principle, this is different from “buying” guilds. I’m sure we can accommodate transferring the last remaining members or whatnot, but we wouldn’t simply say “we’ll give you X gold to transfer,” nor would we meet demands of that nature. Our belief is that you should come to SoR because you want to be here, and if you aren’t willing to put in the time (to acquire gold) to immigrate over, then I’m not so sure how strong your commitment is.

BG -> 2 Major guilds (MERC, ND) and AoI (a combination of small guids)
SoR -> 2 Major guilds (TSym, AFS) and OCX (PvX guild)

So what difference does it make ??

And in the same way that you say that you help other guilds transferring by running dungeons to help some members to come, every other server does the same as well. So basically, BG has done nothing different from the almighty SoR and yet they have to take kitten from your forum warriors week after week. KN choosing us was totally from their side and it would probably have to do with the excellent relations BG had with TC & KN. I wasn’t there when SoR was T2 but if this is the way SoR used to deal with KN and TC in the match threads, are you honestly surprised that KN chose us ?? And in the rare event that BG implodes, do you think any of us would ever consider going to your server because of all this ?? Same with the KN guilds, think about it.

Wishful thinking is one thing and reality another…
Please click on the link below:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/41/

Ugh, what’s wrong with you ?? I already said i wasn’t there. I am just saying to calm down on the continuous BG flaming and just enjoy because in the end, it just affects your server’s public image.

You know what, don’t bother. Just continue with it. In the end, it will only benefit us when any guild looking to transfer comes and looks around. Go on, continue with it. I really dunno why i even bothered.

No offense but I was merely pointing out inaccuracies within your post and as a result you have corrected it. To quote myself this is what I believe: "… BG congratulations for the first place it is well deserved and long overdue, you guys fought hard and hold it together, it is your time to shine!
A great man once said… “Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.”