Guild Wars 2

Well, I have to say for my CD bretheren…Even though we took a beating this week, I honestly feel good about the way we played. I never saw ppl giving up during the times I played and I felt we gave almost as good as we got.

JQ has been a really tough and even frustrating opponent with much better organization. I think with a little more effort and organization CD can get to compete in that 1st tier.

I think from an organizational standpoint CD biggest weaknesses were very slow response times to situations that should not have happened. For example, if we spend 3 hours taking a Garrison we should not be giving that back up in less than 30 minutes. That made no sense to me and I saw several instances of that this week. Everyone should be going back to defend those gains we just made instead of giving that up so easily. Also, trading off supply camps with JQ was ridiculous on CD Borderlands yesterday. Obviously, JQ was sending small, well organzied parties to harass supply lines and take those supply camps. CD was instead sending whole zergs to take those back and loosing ground elsewhere in the process.

When laying siege to an objective like Garrison we also needed to take both supply camps. Instead, JQ was refortifying the Garrison from one supply camp…That made the whole siege last the extra 2 hours.

Overall, its been a lot of fun and I am glad I stuck with CD from beta. I like the fighting spirit of my CD bretheren and I think we should only get better from here.

DB was a decent opponent as well but I feel in a straight up fight CD would outmatch DB. I think JQ realized CD was the greater threat and got some help from DB to beat us down. (Not that from what I had seen currently JQ could not have done this by themselves).

Anyways, has been a lot of fun times in WvW. I think we will benefit from rotating down for a week or two and smacking some lesser opponents then try the big boys again.

Malotoro.6502:

Well, I have to say for my CD bretheren…Even though we took a beating this week, I honestly feel good about the way we played. I never saw ppl giving up during the times I played and I felt we gave almost as good as we got.

JQ has been a really tough and even frustrating opponent with much better organization. I think with a little more effort and organization CD can get to compete in that 1st tier.

I think from an organizational standpoint CD biggest weaknesses were very slow response times to situations that should not have happened. For example, if we spend 3 hours taking a Garrison we should not be giving that back up in less than 30 minutes. That made no sense to me and I saw several instances of that this week. Everyone should be going back to defend those gains we just made instead of giving that up so easily. Also, trading off supply camps with JQ was ridiculous on CD Borderlands yesterday. Obviously, JQ was sending small, well organzied parties to harass supply lines and take those supply camps. CD was instead sending whole zergs to take those back and loosing ground elsewhere in the process.

When laying siege to an objective like Garrison we also needed to take both supply camps. Instead, JQ was refortifying the Garrison from one supply camp…That made the whole siege last the extra 2 hours.

Overall, its been a lot of fun and I am glad I stuck with CD from beta. I like the fighting spirit of my CD bretheren and I think we should only get better from here.

DB was a decent opponent as well but I feel in a straight up fight CD would outmatch DB. I think JQ realized CD was the greater threat and got some help from DB to beat us down. (Not that from what I had seen currently JQ could not have done this by themselves).

Anyways, has been a lot of fun times in WvW. I think we will benefit from rotating down for a week or two and smacking some lesser opponents then try the big boys again.

I hope to God you’re kidding on these two (bolded) points. To start off, neither Dragonbrand nor Crystal Desert have any chance of ever being a tier one server in their current standing. This has nothing to do with organization, skill, or PvP prowess; it has to do with numbers. CD doesn’t have them, and neither does Dragonbrand. Unless for some reason Oceanic and Asian players flock to DB or CD, we won’t be competitive in tier one.

As for JQ being organized, that is rather funny. They’re completely disorganized, they just have numbers. In fact, they weren’t leading during the prime time weekend when the match was even numerically. Heck, they even claim that they need more organization on the Guru forums — that’s the reason why they aren’t very competitive in tier one at the moment.

As for DB helping JQ to take CD down (lots of acronyms), I hope you’re joking. Not sure what else to say on this point. Also, I feel that JQ and CD are fairly evenly matched. I hope to see us compete in the next bracket, perhaps with IoJ.

I haven’t been in WvW as much as I wanted this week, so I’m not going to speak to how well or badly the various servers have done. But it’s nice to see some positive server boosterism.

I’m pretty happy being part of CD too, we’ve been doing good (if kind of inefficient) work this week while I’ve been in WvW. So here’s hoping we claw back a bit before the week is over.

MrPicklez.6473:

As for DB helping JQ to take CD down (lots of acronyms), I hope you’re joking.

It wasn’t an organized, diplomatic alliance, if that’s what you’re getting out of what he said. What really happened is JQ began to focus on us because we were in second place, and then DB, seeing us struggling with JQ, began to focus on us as well to pull us down and claim 2nd. We were definitely being (and are still being) ganged on, but it wasn’t like an alliance or anything. JQ still kills DB, and vice versa. It was a pretty low blow from DB, but all’s fair in love and guild wars

mifbifgiggle.6713:

MrPicklez.6473:

As for DB helping JQ to take CD down (lots of acronyms), I hope you’re joking.

It wasn’t an organized, diplomatic alliance, if that’s what you’re getting out of what he said. What really happened is JQ began to focus on us because we were in second place, and then DB, seeing us struggling with JQ, began to focus on us as well to pull us down and claim 2nd. We were definitely being (and are still being) ganged on, but it wasn’t like an alliance or anything. JQ still kills DB, and vice versa. It was a pretty low blow from DB, but all’s fair in love and guild wars

Yeah, that’s just not true. You were being encroached on by DB for the same reason CD kept pushing East on JQ’s borderlands. It’s called PUGs.

Edit: Although, after the claims on the Guru forums of DB allying with JQ to wipe CD, we did have people want to just annihilate you after that. Can’t say I blame them, but personally I found it entertaining for CD to use DB as their excuse.

DB has no alliances with any other server. And TBH if we had more people it would just add to our organization.

I can tell you right off the bat that when about 12 [ TSym] can consistantlie and repeatedly wipe a JQ or CD zerg of about 50-150. That both JQ and CD need more organization or they will get stomped in the higher brackets no matter what numbers they bring. A lot of the Prime guilds are on servers that are in the number 1 bracket for Wv3 atm and will not play around. They will stomp JQ and CD Like DB stomped SOS and TC.

With that being said. I’m not trying to start a fight with JQ or CD. Just stating the current state of how things have been going this week.

MrPicklez.6473:

mifbifgiggle.6713:

MrPicklez.6473:

As for DB helping JQ to take CD down (lots of acronyms), I hope you’re joking.

It wasn’t an organized, diplomatic alliance, if that’s what you’re getting out of what he said. What really happened is JQ began to focus on us because we were in second place, and then DB, seeing us struggling with JQ, began to focus on us as well to pull us down and claim 2nd. We were definitely being (and are still being) ganged on, but it wasn’t like an alliance or anything. JQ still kills DB, and vice versa. It was a pretty low blow from DB, but all’s fair in love and guild wars

Yeah, that’s just not true. You were being encroached on by DB for the same reason CD kept pushing East on JQ’s borderlands. It’s called PUGs.

Edit: Although, after the claims on the Guru forums of DB allying with JQ to wipe CD, we did have people want to just annihilate you after that. Can’t say I blame them, but personally I found it entertaining for CD to use DB as their excuse.

You must only play borderlands then. I didn’t mention this, because i thought it was pretty obvious, but this all occurred in the EB. Any server in their right mind would have done what DB did. We would have done it to DB if things played out differently. But in the first few hours JQ chose CD as their target and DB (VERY obviously) ignored JQ and went to our side. If you couldn’t see that this precisely happened, then take the blindfold off. Again, I’m not saying we would have won if this didn’t happen, because JQ was obviously better than us and DB may have been as well, but it is obvious, from the perspective of any of the three servers, that this happened just as I said. It is, as of my knowledge up to last night, still happening.

Again, all’s fair in love and guild wars.

I’m not really sure if it was strategically planned to hit CD’s side, because someone decided to put up a treb at Stonemist southwest, and it just snowballed into 8 trebs pointed at Durios.

There’s no alliance on EB either. Our commander in the past few days is one of those “kill them all and burn their houses down” kinds of people when it comes to WvWvW and he personally spent like 15g on upgrades.

The same cd who handed their orb to jq in day three? Or the same cd who allied with jq when db was pushing back jq?

Ya got to be proud of being a cd…

carson yuen.6739:

The same cd who handed their orb to jq in day three? Or the same cd who allied with jq when db was pushing back jq?

Ya got to be proud of being a cd…

Sorta have to agree with this. CD got scared when DB was always rapping their border lands.

I have to say i sure had a hell of a fun time this morning trebbin the DB starting waypoint from veloka. I think we had 3 trebs pointed at em lol.

As for JQ being organized, that is rather funny. They’re completely disorganized, they just have numbers. In fact, they weren’t leading during the prime time weekend when the match was even numerically. Heck, they even claim that they need more organization on the Guru forums — that’s the reason why they aren’t very competitive in tier one at the moment.

Actually, we do have a decent degree of organization. While obviously we aren’t up to the level of HoD, we do have a big TS server that gets frequent usage and regular discussions of targets and tactics in /team. What we don’t have is any major alliance or set of guilds that dominate WvW for us, as seems to be the case with the other top servers.

And we were already leading by Saturday, increased our lead by Sunday, and naturally started steamrolling with the arrival of the weekdays, so I’m not sure where you’re getting your info about the weekend unless the only thing you’re counting is Friday.

I feel CD’s largest weakness is actually our economy.

We do not place enough siege, and then the siege that is placed most of it is very badly positioned.

This will get better in time and CD will get better in time as well. We seem to be a PUB server where there are not a lot of large orgnanized guilds on(at least when I have been on) and non guild backed Commanders takeover. Which leads to 2-3 different viewpoints being argued in Teamchat. Once the people giving orders start to prove themselves and get their name recognized CD will become a much better server.

I honestly feel we got this high based on individual player skill, I regularly fight outnumbered with CD players not even in my group against other servers even guild groups and we will demolish them, as well as CD players will fight that outnumbered fight for the most part and not retreat.

TL;DR: CD has room for A LOT of improvement which will just make us a better server in the long run.