Removing free transfers will make wvw worse at the top.

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Posted by: SoulstitchMMO.1396

SoulstitchMMO.1396

Right now people can move freely between servers. This is causing massive server rebalances, and band wagon jumping. Entire guilds are transferring forming new alliances on new servers working to get new coverage.

And then they are going to eventually lock down the servers…

Guess what happens then?

Entire Guilds/Alliances will call servers home. Then individual player migration will continue. It will only be a few gold for the individual to transfer. Larger massive guilds will not be able to transfer off, however individuals will be able to transfer to whoever is winning.

And they will. And the big guilds won’t be able to move their people off and rebalance anything. So that top server will become dominant, and stay dominant and players won’t be able to fix themselves as easily.

IMO:
Transfers should be cash only. No gem stores, a purchasable transfer ticket that can only be bought with real money. No gold involved.

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Posted by: Godmoney.2048

Godmoney.2048

Transfers should be cash only. No gem stores, a purchasable transfer ticket that can only be bought with real money. No gold involved.

This ^ it’s common sense. Real money for a transfer. If you want to transfer cough up 15$

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Posted by: Zedekiel.3021

Zedekiel.3021

You make it seem as if the players will pay for the entire guild to be moved, that is not the case, as you can freely if you so chose to, move from one server to another and still stay in the same guild, and would thus be an act of the “individual” rather than the entire guild. Of course, having an entire guild move will be more spendy overall, but considering it is the individual paying, not the guild, it doesn’t make any difference.

This game needs another gold sink anyways, a few more actually, and this will at least help in some aspects of the game.

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Posted by: SoulstitchMMO.1396

SoulstitchMMO.1396

Except players will know that the guilds that are making a server number one won’t be able to move servers easily, and so they can invest a few gold, get the gems, and transfer to a winning server. This will be about individual player migration, not guild migration.

If they don’t remove the ability to spend gold on transfers, this will seriously hurt individual player migration and dilute the top tier servers.

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Posted by: Pirhana.8935

Pirhana.8935

am i missing something? i thought they said the free transfers are only for the first few months of the game so people can get situated. I remember reading server tranfers would cost $ and you would not get the WvW rewards until the next round so people wouldnt server hop

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Posted by: SoulstitchMMO.1396

SoulstitchMMO.1396

am i missing something? i thought they said the free transfers are only for the first few months of the game so people can get situated. I remember reading server tranfers would cost $ and you would not get the WvW rewards until the next round so people wouldnt server hop

Once a number one server is established, people will know which has the best chance of staying number one and they will move to that server.

Now imagine players individually know that the major guilds on those servers won’t be able to change servers easily.

800gems (testing cost) to swap servers = ~3g
industry standard of $25 = 2100gems = ~9g

For 9g people will be able to transfer to the dominant server. This is unacceptable and why the cost needs to be for money only, not for gold.

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Posted by: mcl.9240

mcl.9240

I’m sorry…where did you read that transfers would be done for anything other than cash money?

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Posted by: Sunshine.3452

Sunshine.3452

The transfer window.. where it clearly has a gem icon :P

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Posted by: mcl.9240

mcl.9240

The transfer window.. where it clearly has a gem icon :P

I wouldn’t know that; I’ve never transferred. Nor do I intend to (and no, I’m not on a top, or winning server. We routinely lose, often by 100,000-200,000 points).

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Posted by: Nuzt.7894

Nuzt.7894

Gems you purchase with real money so basically you are paying real money for transfers when you buy gems with real money which are then used to transfer. The reason for gems is so ppl can buy bulk if they so choose, rather then having several transactions for say transfer, dye’s, boost’s, ect ect. Buy a lump sum of gems and spend them as you choose.

In the end its still costing real money.

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Posted by: flyinpiranha.2580

flyinpiranha.2580

Gems you purchase with real money so basically you are paying real money for transfers when you buy gems with real money which are then used to transfer. The reason for gems is so ppl can buy bulk if they so choose, rather then having several transactions for say transfer, dye’s, boost’s, ect ect. Buy a lump sum of gems and spend them as you choose.

In the end its still costing real money.

Can’t people just trade gold for Gems?

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Posted by: BubbaLicous.1328

BubbaLicous.1328

Transfers should be limited to weekly window that coIncides with the weekly reset of the WvW. No fees just a lockout to prevent server hopping advantages for WvW games.

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Posted by: shortcake.8659

shortcake.8659

hey guys transfers are a problem

-signed,
some moron who helped stack jade quarry with more bad guilds

some terrible idiot in [pre]

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Posted by: Teknobug.3782

Teknobug.3782

AFAIK players from JQ jumped to SoR for lower queues, and some from Yak’s jumped to SoR as well to be on the winning side, problem is those from JQ will end up in the same position with SoR in a few weeks if they keep winning and then they’ll probably want to go elsewhere again.

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Posted by: Clorox Sour.5142

Clorox Sour.5142

You guys see, to forget the fact of individual player skill, upkeep of top servers providing lots of players around the hours, and queue times. Yeah, a few people might transfer. But the thing you zerg bears are forgetting is the fact that smaller battles. aka lower tier servers are probably more fun, from a fun standpoint, not a “lol I’m on this server so that automatically makes me one of the good players” standpoint. even if transfers cost gems, transfers will slow to a crawl, not everyone wants to just upchuck gold to transfer to the bigger zerg with a 25 minute queue time.

In the coming months things will balance out. Especially after they cut off transfers, of course they will make people aware, so they can transfer to the server they want to stay on, and after that the charts and population do the rest. Eventually things will balance out, the game’s only been out for 2~ months, and these ratings change weekly now. Give it a few months and things will be less chaotic.

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Posted by: fixit.7189

fixit.7189

Not really so much a problem due to individual players hopping around, though that does give an impact which I agree. But you also must consider that moving say a mega guild/alliance who has over 300+ players has a much much larger effect. On the server they are going to and the one they left.

All I know is that free transfers is the major cause of problems in Wv3 on a whole and needs to be addressed in some shape or form.

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Posted by: wacko.7543

wacko.7543

transferring servers should be $ only. and only once per month.

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Posted by: sceptus.9415

sceptus.9415

I don’t think anyone has a problem with transfers. They have a problem with free transfers every 24 hours. Transfers should cost real money and be on at least a 2 week cooldown.

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Posted by: Anguloke.2706

Anguloke.2706

WvWvW should be disabled until the next round for anyone who transfers. That would stop the server jumping because of current match ups.