Guild Wars 2

Really enjoyed the fights last evening on SFR bl against Desolation.siN was the only raid going for some reason but there were guys from other strong guilds helping.The raid ended soon after bay fell to vizunah.We decided to give it up and focus on hills where Deso was attacking strong since hours and had a WP.So much for VS crying we are allies,no we are not and Deso guilds can hit hard,but we try to hit hard in return;)Many good fights.Makes WvW fun .See you on the battleffield.

Sure. Hills was a badge dispensor for both sides. Really nice fights there and also a big one in Astral against siN, some RG and a few more random guilds.

So, if that´s what they call an alliance… how will real fights be like??? xD
Well… maybe Viz will never find it }:-)

Thanx for the fun

SFR scoring at more than +300 between 3am and 6am.

How is that possible, I thought they were the good guys?

Twinklefairy.6739:

Heru.5427:

You are aware that the times you open your map, except while Deso was still in the zone for the first hour, Piken has close to 2/3 of the zone?

You’re aware you’re no longer on Piken right? =)

FML, it was late and I was tired :/ Thanks for pointing it out.

SFR hold decent fights, had an awesome camp fight with them yesturday lasting 15minsish. Which is refreshing because both french viz and elona cant fight. I remember last week a 8man team took out a 20ish man vizu.. you know your bad when that happens

Deniara Devious.3948:

Hecksa.7140:

Just so you know, RG didn’t really have a raid out tonight. Sacrx wasn’t online, so although a few players went out and played a bit, but there wasn’t really anything official going on. You might have seen some RG players leading pugs, playing solo, or grouped up together or something, but tonight doesn’t represent our normal way of playing. We’re just out trying to be somewhat useful to the server when our leader and half the guild are offline.

That is true. I didn’t see Sacrx. I would recognize that big Charr anytime. But thanks for the fights. I was once again without any team, as the guildies were doing Arah explorable mode and tpvp.

Our guild [SCCC] yesterday merged with Jump to Victory [JV]. We are both international guilds. I am our WvWvW officer (not a commander, I am like 90 gold short of that). Recruiting is on. I want to build a 5-man roaming team, which does daily WvWvW. Any profession is welcome, but I am particularly looking for other engineers and necromancers. I want to show people a way to play the least used professions.

I was told there were a grand total of 5 RG playing together. (Tried to get them to switch borders since i wanted to see GH vs RG myself. I like GH <3)

If you want least used professions, surprised you didn’t mention Rangers, a friend joked once i was easily recognisable because there’s about 2 Rangers in the entire BL, and that’s generally what I see as well :p

11:30 and on deso borderlands all going lost because of 5-6 vz and no single(!) sfr-player on this whole map!

(first attack of 2vz both with catas i could defend, but than there were to much for single player action and they were coming back also with a treb and catas)

This is rly stupid, our server still needs a lot of players – we have indeed only in the evening q-times of 1h – but thats primetime.

Deniara Devious.3948:

Kids know the truth. SFR and VS can only win with superior numbers. No hard feelings, because the game is built like that. The only big problem with the huge numbers is that annoying lag.

Oh and real players play warriors or engineers in WvWvW.

So you think that SFR needs more ppl to win against Deso? Do you even think that Deso has more quantity and quality WvW guilds?
Your last comment ,isnt even worth, to be discussed……

Very nice income the whole night/morning SFR, wave of layoffs for your players ?
Well played for the harassment on our map this morning.

I am confused by the tactics of Sfr. You guys could win this week, Deso will be 3rd no matter what. But on the deso border, whenever we attack hills when it is in Viz control, you cause us to pull off as you attack garrison or woodhaven.

Now I understand that you just want to attack and get more points, but there seems a real lack of planning. Your first priority on any border should be to minimise Viz’s income and then to increase yours as much as possible.

You took t3 garrison last night, which was a very well planned and executed maneuver. But in the scheme of things all you did was hold garrison for a short period before viz took it. So you weakened Deso, therefore helping Vizunah get more points.

I don’t mind as I love learning and fighting, but if you guys want to win this match up against Viz’s coverage, you really need to start thinking about your tactics, which to be honest seem a bit mindless at times.

Plus I promise you there will be payback for that take of Garrison.

Wonder how many VS players got kicked from the game from this log in server issue. 0 defenders on your home map. Its a real shame.

Offski.4897:

…

We kinda rolled into t1 earlier than expected, don’t think everything will roll perfectly, it never will anyway.

Besides, we don’t play for score, it will be a matter of finding the golden middleway. I think most of us did expect a bit stronger Deso though, so I hope next week will be better, and of course that you may stay in t1 to deliver good fights.

May good fights encourage more players back to WvW, and may coming update improve lag and fix culling.

Let’s all pray, dear brothers and sisters.

Amen.

Offski.4897:

Your first priority on any border should be to minimise Viz’s income and then to increase yours as much as possible.

It should, but only if we cared that much about score

When I read ppl don’t care bout score I laugh so hard..
Lame excuses when you can’t beat current no1.

Thank you to both VS (OSC commander) and SFR (RG commander) for the good fights last evening/night and many loot bags in EB. I enjoyed it!

Ok so some of sfr want to win and then alot of you dont care about the points? Ok fair enough I guess thats a fair reason for having poor tactics.

As for Deso’s strength how did you find it last time we fought before the influx of guilds sfr have experienced? (admittedly you had just lost prx) We are the 3rd best server, but we rarely have queue’s and have less coverage than sfr and viz, so yes we are not as strong as the other two servers. Thanks for pointing that out.

Sird.4536:

Wonder how many VS players got kicked from the game from this log in server issue. 0 defenders on your home map. Its a real shame.

Yep, many player got kicked and can’t log. I got disconnected 5 minute ago, and there is few player in WvW, it’s really annoying..

Offski.4897:

Ok so some of sfr want to win and then alot of you dont care about the points? Ok fair enough I guess thats a fair reason for having poor tactics.

As for Deso’s strength how did you find it last time we fought before the influx of guilds sfr have experienced? (admittedly you had just lost prx) We are the 3rd best server, but we rarely have queue’s and have less coverage than sfr and viz, so yes we are not as strong as the other two servers. Thanks for pointing that out.

1) Of course we play for points too. At least we try, lol. We want to beast VS, so stating that we don’t care a bout points at all is silly. Some guilds or zergs go for Deso tho because of the better fights , that’s clear

2) Our organisation is sometimes lacking, true. But then again, before prime time hits, the zergs are usually made out of PUGs mainly , so they might do random and silly stuff

3) We not only lost PRX but VOTF aswell. Double hit that we felt hard. ( two top WvW guilds in both EU and NA )

4) Thanks Deso for the good epic fights. You can still remain in T1, ER lost points.

Offski.4897:

Ok so some of sfr want to win and then alot of you dont care about the points? Ok fair enough I guess thats a fair reason for having poor tactics.

As for Deso’s strength how did you find it last time we fought before the influx of guilds sfr have experienced? (admittedly you had just lost prx) We are the 3rd best server, but we rarely have queue’s and have less coverage than sfr and viz, so yes we are not as strong as the other two servers. Thanks for pointing that out.

What poor tactics?

Plus how are we going to stop all the guilds that want to come to SFR from coming? We knew about RG and siN coming but not the other 4/5 that came. Before these guilds came SFR was doing just fine, we were in T1 for along time without these guilds and only one night crew guild. These guilds have bolstered our force for sure but dont think we rely on them and that they are the reason we are second.

And the last time we faced Deso without PRX you had KAZ, whats your point? That you night capped us along with VS?

None one can do anything about guilds transfering etc.

ok about last night desolation bl I can speak for 7pm happenings after zds left. My guys are still learning so I got like 15 on the map Vs and Deso – iron guild had huge zerg with Desolation arround 40-50+ we made an epic lord room safe on hills from vz but then stopping their second attempt Iron came too and took over,we were just too few to stop them.And as I said my guys are unexperienced still. But the same time Ecl took the garrison from Deso,true we lost it soon we were heavily outnumbered but managed to held bay and the area safely.While other bl and eb gained a lot of points. It was fun even getting wiped few times because my scouts failed but yeah.It happens
And as fo sfr we are strong we were strong and before. As Sid said guilds come but we re strong even if they dont come. We have players and guilds and we develop our players even our pugs are better now then most I have seen on the other servers.

Our only weakness is early eu time and it is known to everybody.But yes we can still manage to win this week.
And btw I wow-ed seeing a Vs player saying he has a lot of bags… when we made like 500+ kills on that south bay camp…several times. And vs wins only when the numbers are 1vs 3 in their favour or against some of the smaller still developing guilds like mine..

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Skoti.3195:

blaat … ppl don’t care bout score … blaat

Caring for score.
Playing for score.

If you don’t know the difference…

Upperground.6849:

Skoti.3195:

blaat … ppl don’t care bout score … blaat

Caring for score.
Playing for score.

If you don’t know the difference…

Tell us what the difference is for you dude. I’m curious.

People should go in the Desolation area of EB some more… “Oh, hey, we have all the usual there, means we have people doing kitten to keep it that way…. Or not.”

Firoz.4028:

Vizunah getting owned:

http://upload.booncontrol.com/images/gw004clc.jpg

I never doubted you would make it in a 3v1 way, cause 2v1 didn’t work.

Hahaha It’s really funny to tell VS to go to learn how to WvW.

Nobody dared until today. I like you.

A new age of trolls on VS begins.

Firoz.4028:

Vizunah getting owned by error: 42:6:3:2158:

http://upload.booncontrol.com/images/gw004clc.jpg

Better like that.
But “congrats”

Firoz.4028:

Pindah.1780:

Firoz.4028:

Vizunah getting owned by error: 42:6:3:2158:

http://upload.booncontrol.com/images/gw004clc.jpg

Better like that.
But “congrats”

Oh yes, coz we didn’t suffer from that…
^^

Look at your picture and tell me, it seems that there were players to take some keep.

Sird.4536:

Offski.4897:

Ok so some of sfr want to win and then alot of you dont care about the points? Ok fair enough I guess thats a fair reason for having poor tactics.

As for Deso’s strength how did you find it last time we fought before the influx of guilds sfr have experienced? (admittedly you had just lost prx) We are the 3rd best server, but we rarely have queue’s and have less coverage than sfr and viz, so yes we are not as strong as the other two servers. Thanks for pointing that out.

What poor tactics?

Plus how are we going to stop all the guilds that want to come to SFR from coming? We knew about RG and siN coming but not the other 4/5 that came. Before these guilds came SFR was doing just fine, we were in T1 for along time without these guilds and only one night crew guild. These guilds have bolstered our force for sure but dont think we rely on them and that they are the reason we are second.

And the last time we faced Deso without PRX you had KAZ, whats your point? That you night capped us along with VS?

None one can do anything about guilds transfering etc.

We could go round in circles about guilds joining/leaving. I was just making a simple point that it is not reasonable to call us weak, simply as we have not enjoyed the big influx of new guilds u guys have.

Umm yeh in fact you are second because of these new guilds. You would not of come up this week without them.

I’ll explain the poor tactics, if I was in your position I would be trying to get everyone on my server to focus vizunah. I don’t mind as we are just trying to find good fights. This was impossible last night, especially against Mos as we could not use even one skill against them due to ridiculous lag.

Firoz.4028:

btw, primetime is near, which means you won’t gain much points the coming hours.
Better get some sleep now and get up at 4am to capture everything when we sleep! xD

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Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Try to use 1 TS for SFR/BT/FSP/DS/PS conglomerate the coordination will instantly be better!

ladyfabulous.1403:

Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Try to use 1 TS for SFR/BT/FSP/DS/PS conglomerate the coordination will instantly be better!

I did hear Vcy is incredibly hilarious when drunk, something about a karaoke bot and bad singing… /ponder
I’d sure want to witness that, 1 TS might be the solution there :o

Offski.4897:

I’ll explain the poor tactics, if I was in your position I would be trying to get everyone on my server to focus vizunah. I don’t mind as we are just trying to find good fights. This was impossible last night, especially against Mos as we could not use even one skill against them due to ridiculous lag.

Genev.2450:

People should go in the Desolation area of EB some more… “Oh, hey, we have all the usual there, means we have people doing kitten to keep it that way…. Or not.”

…What do you want us to do???!?

I’m trying my hardest to keep everyone happy, but sometimes I feel like no one appreciates my hard work.

Genev.2450:

ladyfabulous.1403:

Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Try to use 1 TS for SFR/BT/FSP/DS/PS conglomerate the coordination will instantly be better!

I did hear Vcy is incredibly hilarious when drunk, something about a karaoke bot and bad singing… /ponder
I’d sure want to witness that, 1 TS might be the solution there :o

Communication isn’t the problem unfortunatly.

Genev.2450:

ladyfabulous.1403:

Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Try to use 1 TS for SFR/BT/FSP/DS/PS conglomerate the coordination will instantly be better!

I did hear Vcy is incredibly hilarious when drunk, something about a karaoke bot and bad singing… /ponder
I’d sure want to witness that, 1 TS might be the solution there :o

That isn’t me, I swear it. Honest. I’m an Amay-zing singer.

Genev.2450:

ladyfabulous.1403:

Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Try to use 1 TS for SFR/BT/FSP/DS/PS conglomerate the coordination will instantly be better!

I did hear Vcy is incredibly hilarious when drunk, something about a karaoke bot and bad singing… /ponder
I’d sure want to witness that, 1 TS might be the solution there :o

http://youtu.be/xCmWGisrZDg

Genev.2450:

ladyfabulous.1403:

Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Try to use 1 TS for SFR/BT/FSP/DS/PS conglomerate the coordination will instantly be better!

I did hear Vcy is incredibly hilarious when drunk, something about a karaoke bot and bad singing… /ponder
I’d sure want to witness that, 1 TS might be the solution there :o

Who told you about our dolyak races and karaoke nights? About our song guessing contests and Vcy farming spots in WvW? We have never build 35+ rams at the north supply camp and we do not walk around on star wars music. We have never forced an enemy to take an other enemy tower either. We don’t all have stacks of 250 fireworks in our inventory. We don’t own a house at the north supply camp.

Because it all is a lie! We are mature, grown up players who take WvW very seriously! We do no such things. Fun is banned in our guild.

prgas.7019:

Genev.2450:

ladyfabulous.1403:

Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Try to use 1 TS for SFR/BT/FSP/DS/PS conglomerate the coordination will instantly be better!

I did hear Vcy is incredibly hilarious when drunk, something about a karaoke bot and bad singing… /ponder
I’d sure want to witness that, 1 TS might be the solution there :o

http://youtu.be/xCmWGisrZDg

Thanks for that!
Loving the ranting commander too, something about commanders getting angry just makes me giddy.

@Jue: Depends on what you call communication

Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

I don’t see how going to tier 2 will help anything? I would prefer to stay in tier 1 to firstly keep competitve and to have challenging fights.

If things are tough we need to learn to improve as a server, but also as individual guilds.

Our comunication between guilds is non existent, doubt this would improve in t2 as it is less competitive and theerefore not so important.

Not jsut between guilds, also between guilds and puggies.
While IRON (have to give you credit for that one :p), GH, and… DeX i think it was communicate, let people know what they’re doing/wehre they’re going and why, I’ve ran with some other guilds in borderlands where the only communication was some guild advertisement, and the occasional little puggy trying to warn people.
I was following the magnet, but kitten if i knew where we were going/what we were doing.
Well, i could guess some, not really advanced tactics.

Sure, maybe they were on a TS (i’d hope so), but they didn’t invite anyone else to it, the commanders didn’t speak to the zone, and didn’t have anyone speak for them in case they’re simply too busy/bad at multitasking.

Offski.4897:

Sird.4536:

Offski.4897:

Ok so some of sfr want to win and then alot of you dont care about the points? Ok fair enough I guess thats a fair reason for having poor tactics.

As for Deso’s strength how did you find it last time we fought before the influx of guilds sfr have experienced? (admittedly you had just lost prx) We are the 3rd best server, but we rarely have queue’s and have less coverage than sfr and viz, so yes we are not as strong as the other two servers. Thanks for pointing that out.

What poor tactics?

Plus how are we going to stop all the guilds that want to come to SFR from coming? We knew about RG and siN coming but not the other 4/5 that came. Before these guilds came SFR was doing just fine, we were in T1 for along time without these guilds and only one night crew guild. These guilds have bolstered our force for sure but dont think we rely on them and that they are the reason we are second.

And the last time we faced Deso without PRX you had KAZ, whats your point? That you night capped us along with VS?

None one can do anything about guilds transfering etc.

We could go round in circles about guilds joining/leaving. I was just making a simple point that it is not reasonable to call us weak, simply as we have not enjoyed the big influx of new guilds u guys have.

Umm yeh in fact you are second because of these new guilds. You would not of come up this week without them.

I’ll explain the poor tactics, if I was in your position I would be trying to get everyone on my server to focus vizunah. I don’t mind as we are just trying to find good fights. This was impossible last night, especially against Mos as we could not use even one skill against them due to ridiculous lag.

I never said Deso are weak, I know the guilds you have.

These new guilds have made us stronger, just like the old FPS guilds made BT stronger. But we are not riding on the shoulders of them. The new guilds are fitting in well and contributing to the server.

And it was obvious we were heading to T1. These new guilds joined us the week before we got on. Previous to that we had won every T2 match up. If it wasn’t this week it would have been next week.

Thanks [Rise] For the gvg action tonight was fun. Really impressive guardians you guys have.

Thank you too from “some guardian”)

Awesome bloody battle at SFR garrison west with LP+Fureur+Vizunians versus RG+few siN/VcY. I had a lot of fun.

You’ll apologize my little off topic but apparently my post regarding that Deso ranger has been infracted and I just wanted to point to anyone that might have reported it that I was joking and was just referring to a nice chase me and said player had some days ago. It was just my way to post something that’s not insulting others players but overzealous mods are overzealous.

Not only that but a second post of mine which quoted the old one was deleted so I’ll have to repeat myself.

Please trolls from every server (kingface I’m looking at you especially) refrain from mudslinging as it does nothing but damage your own server reputation. I’m having a blast (when it doesn’t lag) and altough your heavy use of nightcap greatly kitten es me off I respect you, and Desolation, as opponents.

Genev.2450:

If you want least used professions, surprised you didn’t mention Rangers, a friend joked once i was easily recognisable because there’s about 2 Rangers in the entire BL, and that’s generally what I see as well :p

At least according to my observation rangers are not that rare. I see them everytime I do WvWvW. Synced ranger barrage, combined with other ranged AoE attacks has been a regular VS tactic (it is a very legit tactic and nothing bad about it).

I don’t have official statistics, but according to my observations engineer is the rarest profession and necromancer comes second. I am talking about WvWvW now.

Elementalists, thieves, mesmers and guardians are everywhere. And everybody knows the reasons.

Just had one of the most EPIC battles in Vizunah BL taking their garrison. We entered through water gate cleanly and got in pretty easy but then the fun started I must admit Vizunah defended well and i think the battle at the lord may have lasted for 15 mins or so and a couple of times i didn’t think we were gonna make it but we pulled through in the end! Morale was high with songs playing like Eye of the Tiger on TS so good fun all in all for both sides

Luffy.9365:

Deniara Devious.3948:

Kids know the truth. SFR and VS can only win with superior numbers. No hard feelings, because the game is built like that. The only big problem with the huge numbers is that annoying lag.

Oh and real players play warriors or engineers in WvWvW.

So you think that SFR needs more ppl to win against Deso? Do you even think that Deso has more quantity and quality WvW guilds?
Your last comment ,isnt even worth, to be discussed……

It is a fact that SFR and VS have more active players than Deso in WvWvW this week. Hey, I have the outmanned buff. Even my 4 year old son can see that. And all servers have plenty of both good and bad players. Lots of random people and several good organized guilds on VS, Deso and SFR.

>95% of my deaths occur when there are bigger numbers against me.

You can call me weird, but I have a sense of honor and pride. I don’t want to win in easiest way. I feel shameful if I use the overpowered aka “cheap” professions in WvWvW, namely: elementalist, thief, mesmer and guardian. Tried D/D ele in WvWvW and it felt too easy. And I have less respect for players who are using them. I know many of the players, who regularly use them, think they have skill. And some do.

Troma.3250:

Awesome bloody battle at SFR garrison west with LP+Fureur+Vizunians versus RG+few siN/VcY. I had a lot of fun.

Action’s been pretty awesome throughout the night. RIP+ PuGs doing a great job at holding hills while we were fighting Viz in north.

So because they have cookiecutter builds, you’re forced to use them? There are people who play those classes, who don’t use the cookiecutter builds, but instead play how they like, and still do well…. And not because they’re doing fotm.
You can’t say people have no honor and pride because they play a class which happens to have cookiecutter builds. Having less respect for people depending on what class they play is extremely…. silly.
You don’t know anything about them, why they chose that class, they might play a thief in every single game, including in games where they are horribly underpowered because it is simply a playstyle they love, for example

And you’re right, I’m sorry, i actually got attacked by a Ranger pet earlier against SFR and there were 2 Rangers running along on our side… So that makes 4 Rangers in the BL \o/

Edit: I’m also talking WvW, i don’t care about PvE, got my legendary, now glhf PvE.
From my experience, Necros are common as dirt, and I see more Engineers than Rangers.