As someone who likes just joining in random wvw fights; If you have your commander tag up ill follow who I want to follow; end of story. If you don’t want me follow you don’t attract me with your blue dorrito so turn it off or port away to make me go follow someone else.
I swear this never use to be an issue before until players finally recognized WvW builds and combo finishers and came up with the idea that doing so made them better than everyone else.
I think its understandable in some circumstances, especially with roamers that arent going after objectives.
That said.. one time I decided to take a short break to eat right outside of our border WP (in enemy BL) before getting back out in the field. The people there started to say things like “dont follow us,” “dont stand around here,” etc. I still find it rather strange. I laughed (in real life), continued eating, then left when I felt like it.
They usually wont be tagging up. They will almost certainly be using party targeting reticle on allies to mark where players need to position themselves around.
I happen to love AoN lol. Im an asuran mesmer on TC Hidden Sin [ONI] gotta say i was surprised when your group didnt roll me, and Cov dueled me right in the middle of the borderlands. I really like your guys. Also the ONI AoN duels were also great. Yall have my respect. No trolls i believe
The only valid reason groups dont want you to follow them is because the enemy can rally on your death. On the other hand let the enemy rally is something you shouldnt allow in the first place by finishing off downed players.
The enemy can rally on anyone’s death. What makes it elitist is the assumption that this random joiner is going to die before any of us do. Some guy they don’t know can’t possibly be a better player than the people on their team.
These groups need to get over themselves.
Start dealing with reality, buddy. Not everyone’s on the same skill level.
This is more about the assumption that random taggers are automatic liabilities. While this may often be the case, there are lots strong soloers out there that happen to be temporarily running with your group because you are aiming for the same objectives.
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With comments about “saving” your buffs for your group, that’s pretty selfish imo. If not fighting in a GvG, you are fighting for your server. An ally is just as equal as your teammate. If the pubber is inexperienced/upleveled, they would need the buffs more than your ascended teammate, and if they die when you could’ve helped them, you do more harm to your team that way with the free rally. If anything, group support skills aren’t on an abysmall cd – if you miss your team, reapply.
@Cirax If you have a trained group that works together, things work a little differently. I cant tell you how many times we got someone new in our group and it totally threw off our flow. At the same time though, sometimes it works out in a better way we couldve come out with before. The difference i think though is Voice coms. There is no communication with a person in battle, unless you stop to type. Better of helping your buddies than a random.
I will say the good thing about being a primarily staff Guardian is that if you do add on people, they usually are very appreciative I try to not run solo because it’s not exactly my professions strong area.
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As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
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That sounds fair enough. My argument, on one side of the spectrum, is that if your group is roaming towards objectives, fighting small group skirmishes on the way, you will likely have puggers aiming for the same objective – you can’t really turn them away in this situation, and I’d suggest wp and roam to another side of the map if your group wants to be alone.
However, if someone follows your group to the ends of the earth for no real reason, that can be a problem. I hope when this happens, the player is explained as to why they should move away from the group. But I’ve seen more and more rude comments towards these players and it’s really unwarranted.
@Aeonblade
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@Cirax I gotta say though buddy. The reason people turn pugs away is because when they do something extreme, like 2v10 or 5v25 which my guild has done, in waves. We dont wanna go, oh pugs were with us, was that really us? In teams like this there is a bit of elitism. I wanna be responsible for my own accomplishment. Not randoms. thats how I choose to play the game. Not trying to be mean.
While I understand why some guild-only or premade groups wouldn’t want people tagging along, it’s not how WvW is designed. It seems like another game mode is needed to appeal to people that want to play this way, like TPvP with larger teams or different maps.
As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.
While I understand why some guild-only or premade groups wouldn’t want people tagging along, it’s not how WvW is designed. It seems like another game mode is needed to appeal to people that want to play this way, like TPvP with larger teams or different maps.
Can’t do 5v25 in tpvp.
Everyone wants to be a spartan.
It’s understandable if the group is doing something specific (like uneven odds skirmishing) and you’re an uplevelled level 8 with no helmet, gloves or shoulder armor slots on. No commander wants a rally bot that enemies can easily rally off after the first point of contact when players go downed.
But even then, when a commander has certain demands, they should ask for a comp or armor check and not just tell someone that’s a pug/militia to stop following them; that’s just a sign of a bad commander that doesnt see the importance of other roles. Good commanders that do have certain composition reqs will at least get them involved in other ways, by doing something else productive and fun to suit their build/class/role.
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It’s understandable if the group is doing something specific (like uneven odds skirmishing) and you’re an uplevelled level 8 with no helmet, gloves or shoulder armor slots on. No commander wants a rally bot that enemies can easily rally off after the first point of contact when players go downed.
But even then, when a commander has certain demands, they should ask for a comp or armor check and not just tell someone that’s a pug/militia to stop following them; that’s just a sign of a bad commander that doesnt see the importance of other roles. Good commanders that do have certain composition reqs will at least get them involved in other ways, by doing something else productive and fun to suit their build/class/role.
I dont think we are talking about commanders. I think its about low man team.
While I understand why some guild-only or premade groups wouldn’t want people tagging along, it’s not how WvW is designed. It seems like another game mode is needed to appeal to people that want to play this way, like TPvP with larger teams or different maps.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Nothing wrong with team/guild pride in your accomplishments as Tek mentioned. Some sort of team battlegrounds (5v5, 15v15, etc.) or GvG would be great. WvW feels like it gives you the freedom to fight for your server however you want (sans griefing others, cheating) but to turn away allies aiming for the same objective isn’t cool imo.
I have to say though, wouldn’t a skilled n vs n battle feel more accomplished than n vs disorganized pub? It feels good beating number odds, but it seems more of an accomplishement defeating an organized group rather the 4 v 30 you hear about.
While I understand why some guild-only or premade groups wouldn’t want people tagging along, it’s not how WvW is designed. It seems like another game mode is needed to appeal to people that want to play this way, like TPvP with larger teams or different maps.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Nothing wrong with team/guild pride in your accomplishments as Tek mentioned. Some sort of team battlegrounds (5v5, 15v15, etc.) or GvG would be great. WvW feels like it gives you the freedom to fight for your server however you want (sans griefing others, cheating) but to turn away allies aiming for the same objective isn’t cool imo.
I have to say though, wouldn’t a skilled n vs n battle feel more accomplished than n vs disorganized pub? It feels good beating number odds, but it seems more of an accomplishement defeating an organized group rather the 4 v 30 you hear about.
Actually we have done a 5v5 with AoN, and duels. so best of both worlds.
The way i see it is this. IF you can do a 5v25 all of your members have high awareness. Even if it was pugs. they are all shooting you giving little room for error. CCs, Condi, pure damage. It takes quite the team to accomplish this Pugs or not. We have stomped guilds, and pugs, and we duel often.
I find the way to being good at this game is to be good at managing pressure. If you can maintain a cool under pressure you win. So when a zerg of 25 comes and we beat them or force them to run. We out pressured 25 people.
I happen to love AoN lol. Im an asuran mesmer on TC Hidden Sin [ONI] gotta say i was surprised when your group didnt roll me, and Cov dueled me right in the middle of the borderlands. I really like your guys. Also the ONI AoN duels were also great. Yall have my respect. No trolls i believe
Yeah, I think I just got a little heated. I don’t think the actual people behind the characters are trolls but their play style can seem “trolly”, in that, they try to draw you out and then run (not out of cowardice) or they poke and poke for a reaction.
I do like AoN and I would be sad if they left FA because they make things exciting.
As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.
Well I haven’t seen him except an unimpressive video against bad Maguuma pugs
(5v6 followed by 5v8 does not make a 5v15), so he should probably keep his ego in the tier it belongs.
Angelic Synergy [Holy], Andromeda (Mesmer)/Samson of Mice (Guardian)/Ren the Stumpy (Engi)
As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.
Well I haven’t seen him except an unimpressive video against bad Maguuma pugs
(5v6 followed by 5v8 does not make a 5v15), so he should probably keep his ego in the tier it belongs.
As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.
Well I haven’t seen him except an unimpressive video against bad Maguuma pugs
(5v6 followed by 5v8 does not make a 5v15), so he should probably keep his ego in the tier it belongs.
No lol if it was me i wouldve went around the back and pushed hard from behind, solo. While the zerg pushes the other side. AoE also has a 5 man limit so they wouldnt all be dying from the AoE. All about pressure man.
No lol if it was me i wouldve went around the back and pushed hard from behind, solo. While the zerg pushes the other side. AoE also has a 5 man limit so they wouldnt all be dying from the AoE. All about pressure man.
Which works well against pug zergs. Still doesn’t apply to small roaming groups who have a clue what they’re doing.
Angelic Synergy [Holy], Andromeda (Mesmer)/Samson of Mice (Guardian)/Ren the Stumpy (Engi)
If you died to Convenant solo, bring an invulnerability if you can (a channelling block/evade or distortion) and learn the tells (big ones can be dodged on reaction but if you miss, smash that invulnerability key!). A mobile cleanse condition and/or teleport is good to have. Greatsword has pretty good mobility but he wont be able to deal with any kind of condition pressure that drastically reduces or halts movement, like repeated application of chill or cripple.
@Themanbat
Please explain to me what you would do differently in the exact same circumstances.
@Basetment
We have dueled. i never said i lost. But in a team fight the guy is a threat.
@Themanbat
Please explain to me what you would do differently in the exact same circumstances.
@Basetment
We have dueled. i never said i lost. But in a team fight the guy is a threat.
I have no idea why you’re turning this into a “how would you fight bad pugs better” issue, when I’ve been talking about his calling out t7 small-mans this entire time. He’d get rolled 5v5 in this tier.
Angelic Synergy [Holy], Andromeda (Mesmer)/Samson of Mice (Guardian)/Ren the Stumpy (Engi)
Im failing to understand your thoughts on low man v zerg.
o.o stop changing the subject. READ. If I wanted to fight piles of bads all day and get destroyed by equal numbers of good players I’d roll an aoe class. I don’t and that’s not what any of this is about.
Angelic Synergy [Holy], Andromeda (Mesmer)/Samson of Mice (Guardian)/Ren the Stumpy (Engi)
I still dont understand lol, I read all of what you said, and all i see is whining about how bad he is. Fight him then. If not, dont say anything. Sometimes i dont know why i even bother. The majority of the game is bads. im pretty sure you are too.
I still dont understand lol, I read all of what you said, and all i see is whining about how bad he is. Fight him then. If not, dont say anything. Sometimes i dont know why i even bother. The majority of the game is bads. im pretty sure you are too.
I’m pretty sure you’re an idiot but I didn’t need to say that either. And no, I’m not going to say nothing when the kittentard talks kitten about guilds he knows nothing about. If he wants to fight, I’d have no problem beating his kitten and yours.
Angelic Synergy [Holy], Andromeda (Mesmer)/Samson of Mice (Guardian)/Ren the Stumpy (Engi)
If there is a guild or a smallscale team that wants to run by themselves and politely ask you not to follow them, then by following them you are simply griefing. Sure, it can happen coincidentially that you meet at some supply camp or points but that’s not what I am seeing. It’s not like you can’t do other things in the zone except grief your fellow players.
If there is a guild or smallscale team that wants to run by themselves, there’s always tourneys.
If you are going to play in WvW, expect to have people follow you sometimes. By choosing to play in that game mode, they should acknowledge that other players can and will do whatever the hell they want.
Whenever me and my guild mates want to play a game by ourselves we play a MMO and go into a WVWVW area. Just so we won’t be bothered by others and we can get away from it all.
We’d love to have more small-mans to fight on our tier. Just bring yourself over here and we’ll gladly fight you!
I don’t know if you’ve been in the higher tiers, but if you really do believe that it’s the same (it’s not lol), why don’t you come up here?
I’ve personally been in the lower tiers. And it’s just so much easier. We’ve also fought other competent 5 mans and absolutely wrecked them. The only one that could hold up is ONI, who also agree that lower tiers are easier.
As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.
Well I haven’t seen him except an unimpressive video against bad Maguuma pugs
(5v6 followed by 5v8 does not make a 5v15), so he should probably keep his ego in the tier it belongs.
Yes, I’m sure that aoe spam holds up well against guild groups of good players.
Me stating a reality about guild/playerbase distribution among the tiers lead me to being egotastic and other such nonsense? If you do wish to fight us, at least have the decency to do it ingame rather than on the forums. Thank you.
Did someone just challenge Andro O.o lol hope to see a video on here, Andro was a beast in T8 :p and no the lower tiers aren’t full of unskilled robots…
Ive been on both ends. We moved from tier 3 to whats now tier 7 to get away from the zergs.
Id say the average skill level is similar, theres just fewer overall good players that tend to roam in lower tiers. The one thing I dont miss are the 25 man lawnmower zergs (Im sorry guys, I ment army!) that puff their chests out about rolling pug zergs and fall over dead when you catch them in even numbers.
The sweet spot for me at least is tier 4,5,6. Good roaming communities and the zergs are manageable.
As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.
Well I haven’t seen him except an unimpressive video against bad Maguuma pugs
(5v6 followed by 5v8 does not make a 5v15), so he should probably keep his ego in the tier it belongs.
Yes, I’m sure that aoe spam holds up well against guild groups of good players.
Me stating a reality about guild/playerbase distribution among the tiers lead me to being egotastic and other such nonsense? If you do wish to fight us, at least have the decency to do it ingame rather than on the forums. Thank you.
Lol, don’t start trakittenalking other people you know as little about as you claim we do of you and then get kitten when someone responds negatively.
Edit: It wasn’t the “playerbase distribution of the tiers” that I give a rat’s kitten about. You specifically targeted t7 roaming groups as nothing more than lowbie gankers. Wtf did you expect my reaction to be? And for trying to turn this into a recruitment opportunity you sure as hell started off on the wrong foot.
Angelic Synergy [Holy], Andromeda (Mesmer)/Samson of Mice (Guardian)/Ren the Stumpy (Engi)
As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.
Well I haven’t seen him except an unimpressive video against bad Maguuma pugs
(5v6 followed by 5v8 does not make a 5v15), so he should probably keep his ego in the tier it belongs.
Yes, I’m sure that aoe spam holds up well against guild groups of good players.
Me stating a reality about guild/playerbase distribution among the tiers lead me to being egotastic and other such nonsense? If you do wish to fight us, at least have the decency to do it ingame rather than on the forums. Thank you.
Lol, don’t start trakittenalking other people you know as little about as you claim we do of you and then get kitten when someone responds negatively.
Edit: It wasn’t the “playerbase distribution of the tiers” that I give a rat’s kitten about. You specifically targeted t7 roaming groups as nothing more than lowbie gankers. Wtf did you expect my reaction to be? And for trying to turn this into a recruitment opportunity you sure as hell started off on the wrong foot.
I don’t care about your opinion.. I state facts. I merely wanted you to fight me so we can crush you really quick.
As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.
Well I haven’t seen him except an unimpressive video against bad Maguuma pugs
(5v6 followed by 5v8 does not make a 5v15), so he should probably keep his ego in the tier it belongs.
Yes, I’m sure that aoe spam holds up well against guild groups of good players.
Me stating a reality about guild/playerbase distribution among the tiers lead me to being egotastic and other such nonsense? If you do wish to fight us, at least have the decency to do it ingame rather than on the forums. Thank you.
Lol, don’t start trakittenalking other people you know as little about as you claim we do of you and then get kitten when someone responds negatively.
Edit: It wasn’t the “playerbase distribution of the tiers” that I give a rat’s kitten about. You specifically targeted t7 roaming groups as nothing more than lowbie gankers. Wtf did you expect my reaction to be? And for trying to turn this into a recruitment opportunity you sure as hell started off on the wrong foot.
I don’t care about your opinion.. I state facts. I merely wanted you to fight me so we can crush you really quick.
As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.
If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.
Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.
Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!
Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…
Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.
Well I haven’t seen him except an unimpressive video against bad Maguuma pugs
(5v6 followed by 5v8 does not make a 5v15), so he should probably keep his ego in the tier it belongs.
Yes, I’m sure that aoe spam holds up well against guild groups of good players.
Me stating a reality about guild/playerbase distribution among the tiers lead me to being egotastic and other such nonsense? If you do wish to fight us, at least have the decency to do it ingame rather than on the forums. Thank you.
Lol, don’t start trakittenalking other people you know as little about as you claim we do of you and then get kitten when someone responds negatively.
Edit: It wasn’t the “playerbase distribution of the tiers” that I give a rat’s kitten about. You specifically targeted t7 roaming groups as nothing more than lowbie gankers. Wtf did you expect my reaction to be? And for trying to turn this into a recruitment opportunity you sure as hell started off on the wrong foot.
I don’t care about your opinion.. I state facts. I merely wanted you to fight me so we can crush you really quick.
lol maybe you should try to duel andro too
1) exactly what I wanted to do
2) duels have nothing to do with what’s being said here… what are you, from the 18th century?
I try to not run solo because it’s not exactly my professions strong area.
