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Posted by: Greebler.7843

Greebler.7843

I have 1600+ kills in wvw.

only 160 badges of honor.

Now I learn it is some norm that if you alt-4 out, you deny the enemy the badges- AND you save on repairs. Double bonus.

So apparrently I have been getting wronged by playing by the rules?

This shows yet another weakness in an already broken system.

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Posted by: MartyPartys.9187

MartyPartys.9187

You are doing something wrong, i’ve got less kills and 750 badges.. And why do you want to deny your enemy his badges? I mean he killed you, he won, he earned them.

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Posted by: MartyPartys.9187

MartyPartys.9187

Also if you want more badges, you can do the jumping puzzles, they give a nice ammount of badges every day.

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Posted by: Same.4687

Same.4687

You are doing something wrong, i’ve got less kills and 750 badges.. And why do you want to deny your enemy his badges? I mean he killed you, he won, he earned them.

I’m going to say this out loud, you sir are full of it. I have 6000+ kills and only racked up around 1200-1300 badges. And that is even with me being quite lucky with badge drops according to many guildies. I tend to get 1 badge every 6 (or so) kills. I might have lost some badges along the way because of zerging or dying but never anything drastic.

As for OP, yes there currently is a trend of simply ALT-F4’ing when you get to downed state. It happens in 1v1’s a lot now that it’s common knowledge and it’s really hard to see if it happens in zerg vs zerg because you know, more often than not you cannot even see the opposing zerg.
However I average out about 1 badges per 6 kills
Yesterday I managed to rack up 80-ish badges so I thought they upped the droprate but as my kills showed I also had an insane amount of kills (thanks for turtling when there are 6 arrow carts raining arrows on you).

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

Ryuujin.8236

This sounds about right. I’ve only been WvWing for 1 week. I have around 450 kills and only 50 badges, I’m pretty sure alt + f4 isn’t the cause, if someone bails you don’t get the kill credit either. So all those kills are people you took an active role in killing

The Ashwalker – Ranger
Garnished Toast

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Posted by: Bogey.5423

Bogey.5423

I had around 2000 kills to get invaders coat (396 badges). None of the badges were from jumping puzzles.

[Hex]

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Posted by: wads.5730

wads.5730

around 4000 kills, about 1700 badges. i’ve probably gotten the EB chest maybe 30-40 times, so thats about 300 badges from jumping puzzle.

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Posted by: Xandax.1753

Xandax.1753

You are doing something wrong, i’ve got less kills and 750 badges.. And why do you want to deny your enemy his badges? I mean he killed you, he won, he earned them.

I’m going to say this out loud, you sir are full of it. I have 6000+ kills and only racked up around 1200-1300 badges. And that is even with me being quite lucky with badge drops according to many guildies. I tend to get 1 badge every 6 (or so) kills. I might have lost some badges along the way because of zerging or dying but never anything drastic.

As for OP, yes there currently is a trend of simply ALT-F4’ing when you get to downed state. It happens in 1v1’s a lot now that it’s common knowledge and it’s really hard to see if it happens in zerg vs zerg because you know, more often than not you cannot even see the opposing zerg.
However I average out about 1 badges per 6 kills
Yesterday I managed to rack up 80-ish badges so I thought they upped the droprate but as my kills showed I also had an insane amount of kills (thanks for turtling when there are 6 arrow carts raining arrows on you).

My average is about the same. Both from using sieges, solo kills, zerg kills and jumping puzzles.

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

Ryuujin.8236

badges are useless… it doesnt matter.

You need 500 badges as part of creating a legendary weapon. So if you plan to get a legend they certainly won’t be useless.

The Ashwalker – Ranger
Garnished Toast

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Posted by: Shadow.3475

Shadow.3475

Write same here you should be able to add autoloot in World vs World, i probably missed 500+ badges simple becase in the midle off the battle its hard to se the F window popup when your running chasing or getting chased by enemys.
Or even worse when you use a Arrowcart or so and die then se great 12bags is around the arrowcart, you cant pic them up without leaving the siege weapon.

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Posted by: Arcxander.9836

Arcxander.9836

badges are useless… it doesnt matter.

You need 500 badges as part of creating a legendary weapon. So if you plan to get a legend they certainly won’t be useless.

Well my point is, things that you can buy with badges arent that good and cannot get you motivated to collect more. And as for legendary, that item is not applicable for all. So…. for me imho, its useless.

Thats why I go wvw for the pvp and fun. not for the badges.

Jofp
Legion of Ubec [UBEC] | Gate of Madness
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Posted by: Crosstrack.9184

Crosstrack.9184

badges are useless… it doesnt matter.

You need 500 badges as part of creating a legendary weapon. So if you plan to get a legend they certainly won’t be useless.

Well my point is, things that you can buy with badges arent that good and cannot get you motivated to collect more. And as for legendary, that item is not applicable for all. So…. for me imho, its useless.

Thats why I go wvw for the pvp and fun. not for the badges.

you do realize you can buy siege blueprints with badges right? 1 badge = 1silver against a siege weapon…

And in regards to badge drops, I have around 3500 kills and 1600 badges in my bank right now. Yes i do a lot of jumping puzzle, which might account for 1/3rd of those badges, but i still seem to get on average 1 badge every 3-4 kills. i also strongly believe that the more damage you do to an enemy, the more likely you are to get badges. sitting there with an arrow cart hitting a guy for 5×800 damage wont get as many badge drops as going full dps on a guy in a fight. Could be wrong, but i do get a lot higher badge drop % when im out roaming and killing people in small groups than i do sitting on a wall with siege.

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Posted by: Haralin.1473

Haralin.1473

never made Jumping Puzzle

7.900 Kills and about 2000 Badges, mostly i played not in Zergs.

Haralin Engineer
[Skol]

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Posted by: Greebler.7843

Greebler.7843

so 10 kills per 1 badge is not right?

I have been very sure to loot everything.

Does that stupid Diminishing Returns come into play in WvW??

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

I have 1100 kills and 400 badges, 1 of 6 kills gives badge, but taking supply or tower gives often 2 badges, and that’s good , but 1 of 6 kills is frustrating i often get some 20 copper drop.

Haven’t done jumping puzzle because some dude told me chest drops 5 badges and rare item which is bloody bad and an hour or two of jumping for 5 badges just isn’t my style.

set is about 300 badges /item that’s about 2400 more or less, and weapons are 396 so 800 for 2 weapons that’s a year of farming for 3200 badges

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Posted by: Peetee.9406

Peetee.9406

The issue you’re having is traveling with a zerg vs traveling with a small group.

Every downed player only gives a certain number of badges, dividing by 30 gives you a much smaller chance than dividing by 5.

Kayku
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Posted by: Crosstrack.9184

Crosstrack.9184

I have 1100 kills and 400 badges, 1 of 6 kills gives badge, but taking supply or tower gives often 2 badges, and that’s good , but 1 of 6 kills is frustrating i often get some 20 copper drop.

Haven’t done jumping puzzle because some dude told me chest drops 5 badges and rare item which is bloody bad and an hour or two of jumping for 5 badges just isn’t my style.

set is about 300 badges /item that’s about 2400 more or less, and weapons are 396 so 800 for 2 weapons that’s a year of farming for 3200 badges

the Eternal battlegrounds JP can drop up to 15 or so badges, and should take around 10mins with no serious interruptions.

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Posted by: MartyPartys.9187

MartyPartys.9187

You are doing something wrong, i’ve got less kills and 750 badges.. And why do you want to deny your enemy his badges? I mean he killed you, he won, he earned them.

I’m going to say this out loud, you sir are full of it. I have 6000+ kills and only racked up around 1200-1300 badges.

I don’t know why I’m getting alot of badges then. Besides the jumping puzzles which I do alot I think as mentioned earlier it has something to do with how you are in combat. I almost never man siege, I charge at people before others dare to. I also loot everything and when I’m killed I let my guildies revive me so I can still loot it.

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Posted by: Enenion.8127

Enenion.8127

4.5k kills and I’ve gotten roughly 1800 badges (see the screenshot). 396 for chest piece, 370 for leggings, 500 for gift, 2 stacks of 250, 36 left over and some spent on buying siege. I have run the jumping puzzle quite a few times, but typically I get stacks of 2 badges every 5ish kills. I feel as if I get more badges from enemies that I stomp, but that may be just because I immediately pick up the loot bag by tapping F after the stomp. If you’re having trouble finding badges or loot bags remember that you can hold Ctrl down and it will highlight all loot bags within a large radius.

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Posted by: Kardiamond.6952

Kardiamond.6952

Wow Thanks Enenion didn’t know that!

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Posted by: holska.4127

holska.4127

badges are useless… it doesnt matter.

You need 500 badges as part of creating a legendary weapon. So if you plan to get a legend they certainly won’t be useless.

Well my point is, things that you can buy with badges arent that good and cannot get you motivated to collect more. And as for legendary, that item is not applicable for all. So…. for me imho, its useless.

Thats why I go wvw for the pvp and fun. not for the badges.

Although I also play for fun and not for rewards (not just in WvW), I’m motivated to collect more for the gear because they’re a set with power/toughness/vit on every single pce.
To get that with the PvE exotics available for karma I have to mix and match and then use transmutation stones to give them a uniform look which requires more gear pcs. overall as well if I happen to like the looks of one of those sets and want to combine half of it withthe stats of the other set.

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Posted by: buki.3108

buki.3108

5800 kills
1127 badges

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Posted by: FrozeNuggz.7219

FrozeNuggz.7219

11000 kills,
2200 badges
aprox numbers, but pretty close

Shaniquia Johnson – Frozenuggz [KnT] Blackgate

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Posted by: Tyaen.5148

Tyaen.5148

You can get power/toughness/vitality on the Vigil armor set in PvE as well.

Tyyaen – Engineer (80) [SS]
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Posted by: Subtle.4596

Subtle.4596

12k kills, full invaders and i go through about 3-400 badges a week in siege… maybe just unlucky?

Subtle/Not Subtle
80Thief/80Guard
Yaksbend Commander

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Posted by: Spiders Spiders Spiders.8043

Spiders Spiders Spiders.8043

After thousands of kills, thousands of badges and serious collection of roaming Xv1 kills at lunch time, I have only seen two alt-f4ers (and a possible 3rd at the jp). The ugly side of this beautiful kill/f4 ratio is that these cases have been in the last few days… the disease may be extending…

[CIR] Crimson Imperium Reborn / Blacktide

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Posted by: Delusion.9543

Delusion.9543

Eh. I don’t care about badges. I literally WvW for the fun of it. I don’t have a lot, but I don’t go picking up bags a lot either.

One less thing to stress about in a game thats supposed to be fun (:

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Posted by: Kaleden.9386

Kaleden.9386

For what it’s worth, I acquire far more badges fighting on my own/in a small group. I think in larger group settings, it’s harder to get “claim” for those badges.

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Posted by: Rayya.2591

Rayya.2591

so join wvw ? wait 30 min queue , get killed then alt F4 ? where is the logic ?
regarding kills /badges number is 100% irelevant
i can go with my thief and 1 vs 1 or 1 vs 2 for 8 hours to make 20 badges
then i switch to guardian , go spam aoe with staf in zerg vs zerg and i make 150 kills in 40 minutes and 30-40 badges.
IF you want to farm badges, stay on guardian /eleme /eng and spam aoe in zerg vs zerg

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Posted by: HenryAu.7523

HenryAu.7523

Like somebody else already mentioned, if you want loot (badges included) go with small (5 people) camp-flipping gank groups. The camp supervisor drops badges and you actually get a decent amount of badges from ganking stragglers/lonely defenders.

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Posted by: Rhyis.7058

Rhyis.7058

I think the average kill to badge ratio is about 5:1.

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Posted by: Greebler.7843

Greebler.7843

4.5k kills and I’ve gotten roughly 1800 badges (see the screenshot). 396 for chest piece, 370 for leggings, 500 for gift, 2 stacks of 250, 36 left over and some spent on buying siege. I have run the jumping puzzle quite a few times, but typically I get stacks of 2 badges every 5ish kills. I feel as if I get more badges from enemies that I stomp, but that may be just because I immediately pick up the loot bag by tapping F after the stomp. If you’re having trouble finding badges or loot bags remember that you can hold Ctrl down and it will highlight all loot bags within a large radius.

This is a VERY greebly tip! +1 for you! It will help me greatly in finding all the loots!

Hold Ctl to find them very nice.

Also I did spinning daggers into z v z right into the enemy zerg. I dont know how I lived, but I that time I got quite a few kills because my zerg rolled them soon after. I probably got 3-4 badges in that scuffle.

Also I ask this; does Diminishing Returns apply to Badges in PVP??

I find if I log out and bail for a while… then come back badges start dropping nicely again.

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Posted by: Xenesis.6389

Xenesis.6389

Over 3k kills and about 500 badges, only did the puzzle 4 times. 5-6kills per badge sounds about where it is for most people.

Not sure about that logic of alt f4 out of battle to deny a person of a badge, then you have to log back in and maybe wait in queue to get back into wvw? all just to deny a person a badge, sounds more like the killer gets the last laugh there.

Another derailing post. ^^
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Posted by: sazaw.1347

sazaw.1347

badges are useless… it doesnt matter.

You need 500 badges as part of creating a legendary weapon. So if you plan to get a legend they certainly won’t be useless.

Well my point is, things that you can buy with badges arent that good and cannot get you motivated to collect more. And as for legendary, that item is not applicable for all. So…. for me imho, its useless.

Thats why I go wvw for the pvp and fun. not for the badges.

umm… just want to point out my opinion. Badges can be traded for blue prints so they are very useful in WvW.

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Posted by: Ace.7361

Ace.7361

I have 25k+ kills and gained 10k+ badges…guess im just that lucky

Earnel/Irmo/Ingwe
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Posted by: Plok.6145

Plok.6145

This shows yet another weakness in an already broken system.

Are you deranged? This is some of the best, balanced and fun large scale pvp I have played and I have been playing since the early days of DAOC. Plain and simple if thats all you are getting for badges, hit harder and/or more targets. On a good night ill pull in 150 to 200 badges. I am just under 10k wvw kills.

Glitches and bugs aside, they are working on them harder than any comepany I have ever seen work on issues.

Sincerely,

Commander Plok The Original Leader of Shadow of Agony [GOAT]

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Posted by: zoobaby.7804

zoobaby.7804

I get more badgers from Camp Supervisors than I do from players. I’m guessing I have have ~4k kills and earned a lifetime amount of 800 badgers.

SBI native and Altoholic
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