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Posted by: Bellok.4180

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I defend the use of racial slurs because I believe in freedom of speech. If someone is using these kind of words we do not blame them, we blame the people they have been around, and we blame their education. If those terms offend us then we have the obligation as a whole to teach them why the use of such language is unacceptable. We don’t just heavy handedly give them the axe, otherwise we are no better than they are.

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Posted by: Snoflake.9087

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The last thing a lot of us want is for general map chat to be like Barrens Chat or full of (rear end) [name of ability here] which is just childish and purile. ArenaNet are fully aware that swearing is now part of accepted languange of the day so the occasional expletive or “kitten” (if you will) is fine. But you devolve into that kind of rubbish? I’ll be the first to report you.

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Posted by: Bellok.4180

Bellok.4180

The last thing a lot of us want is for general map chat to be like Barrens Chat or full of (rear end) [name of ability here] which is just childish and purile. ArenaNet are fully aware that swearing is now part of accepted languange of the day so the occasional expletive or “kitten” (if you will) is fine. But you devolve into that kind of rubbish? I’ll be the first to report you.

I know this is a what if, but I’m sure that the what if is real in this case. What if, that is all a person has been around, and taught? Do they know better? Maybe, maybe not. Who are you to stand on your high horse and look down on a person when given the circumstances of them to be raised exactly like you were raised they would act differently?

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Posted by: Noobless.8592

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Guys how is this long discussion relevant to this post? Could you take it somewhere else please? I need help from a GM and this spamm isnt really helping :/

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Posted by: DavidGX.1723

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Freedom of speech doesn’t apply to videogames.

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Posted by: Bellok.4180

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Korrigan that logic is sound, a person is not condemnable until he/she is taught properly. After being taught properly then the fault rests on his/hers shoulders. If you want zero tolerance, fine, however there is a HUGE difference between a jerk who is spamming that kind of trash as a form of harassment, and someone who says it once, is told that that kind of language is not welcome, apologizes, and or never says the word again. To have this silly heavy handed 14 day ban because someone said something another person disliked is problematic. I can see it appropriate for the person spamming it in a chat room, I don’t see it appropriate for someone who says it once, and then banned. We all slip, and say things we regret, that includes you, and if you try and tell me you have never said anything of the sort than you are a liar.

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Posted by: Bellok.4180

Bellok.4180

Freedom of speech doesn’t apply to videogames.

freedom of speech applies to everything.

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Posted by: Korrigan.4837

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Guys how is this long discussion relevant to this post? Could you take it somewhere else please? I need help from a GM and this spamm isnt really helping :/

You are right of course – I removed my last lengthy post and am out of here. This is a support forum, not a soapbox. My apologies for that, and good luck in getting help

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Posted by: elk.1493

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Guys how is this long discussion relevant to this post? Could you take it somewhere else please? I need help from a GM and this spamm isnt really helping :/

You are right of course – I removed my last lengthy post and am out of here. This is a support forum, not a soapbox. My apologies for that, and good luck in getting help

yeah, over in guild wars 2 guru, there’s an argument-fueled thread on whoffensive names, usually involving some people claiming toilet humour is equal to swearing, whilst others argue we should be able to swear whenever (of course i’s full of invalid arguments, soooo).

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Posted by: Noobless.8592

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Thanks guys, Now I hope a GM would solve my problem please, I posted my ticket number and everything!

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Posted by: TOTO.3175

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I got banned 2 weeks for inappropriate language on my first strike, seems extremely legit, after all.

I saw people being racist, being banned 3 days.
I have seen people calling other peoplekitten and spamming it, being banned 3 days.
I have seen people scamming and insulting, being banned 3 days.
I have seen myself insulting people, being banned 3 days.

Sincerely.

It is really unusual to have this happen. Can you please give me your ticket number so I can investigate? Thanks.

120904-003192

To all the other users, first strike.

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Posted by: Run Amok.9205

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I’m glad Anet are banning people who say things that shouldn’t be said in public.

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Posted by: Noobless.8592

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^Please refrain from useless comments like that, if you dont need help you shouldnt be saying anything not useful please.

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Posted by: sobelius.4756

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I defend the use of racial slurs because I believe in freedom of speech. If someone is using these kind of words we do not blame them, we blame the people they have been around, and we blame their education. If those terms offend us then we have the obligation as a whole to teach them why the use of such language is unacceptable. We don’t just heavy handedly give them the axe, otherwise we are no better than they are.

Bellok, showing people that their use of language has consequences IS a way of teaching and educating them. If someone does not understand the harm they cause to someone else by using slurs, then a small “lesson” can serve, especially in a private-space environment such as an online game. GW2 is not a public space.

Also, stop blaming everyone else (educators, parents, society, etc.). Each individual is responsible for his or her own conduct. No one is forcing anyone to say slurs against their will. So this kind of action might actually help people learn some self-restraint and how to behave in a society that has more people in it than themselves.

Do they have to become a saint? No. Do they have to be helpful and friendly? No. Do they have to understand that spouting off rude offensive language is not acceptable according to the rules of the game creators? Yes.

What I do object to in all of this, though, is the manner in which suspensions and bans occur without real warning. Anet says it has a way to flag accounts. I think it would have been preferable to tell people — “warning: your account has been flagged for violating the game’s terms of service. Here’s what you did: (violation). If you violate the terms of service again, you will be (suspended, banned, etc.)”. This would allow people an opportunity to correct their behavior, rename a character, etc., and also separate the accidental or unintentional event/problem from being lumped in the same boat with the repeat offenders.

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Posted by: Spudgun.1528

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I’m glad that Arenanet are taking action on this, long may it continue. It shouldn’t be necessary though, but sadly some people just don’t care about offending others.
Some mmos Ive played, F wording became so commonplace it turned into an unpleasant atmosphere a lot of the time. A lot of instance runs could turn into noob healer noob tank etc etc attacks. Stamp out nerd rage, lets create a good gaming atmosphere with this game.

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Posted by: raphaeldisanto.5478

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Freedom of speech doesn’t apply to videogames.

freedom of speech applies to everything.

Actually, it doesn’t. This is an oft-quoted error.

Freedom of speech (if you’re in the US), only applies to public areas, not private areas. This forum, the game, are all private areas, they’re all owned by ANet. We’re here on their sufferance only. Freedom of speech does not allow you to come into my house and make racial slurs. That’s my property. I own it. And I decide what is or isn’t allowed, within the confines of the law.

I cannot allow more than the law allows. But I can choose to allow less.

ANet own the 1s and 0s that make this game. They own the servers that those 1s and 0s live on. Their house, their rules. Freedom of speech does not apply. You don’t like the rules you agreed to when you came into this house, leave the house.

(Technically, you do have the right to come into my house and use whatever racial slurs you choose. But I then have the right to eject you. That’s the right Anet are currently exercising)

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Posted by: Shigbone.2784

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I got banned 2 weeks for inappropriate language on my first strike, seems extremely legit, after all.

I saw people being racist, being banned 3 days.
I have seen people calling other peoplekitten and spamming it, being banned 3 days.
I have seen people scamming and insulting, being banned 3 days.
I have seen myself insulting people, being banned 3 days.

Sincerely.

It is really unusual to have this happen. Can you please give me your ticket number so I can investigate? Thanks.

Here’s my ticket: # 120831-021756
Thanks

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Posted by: bayhas.9164

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Subscribing because I can’t wait to see what some of these people’s banning reasons whenever the mod posts them.

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Posted by: Ms Sooz.1095

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How do you subscribe? It just puts me to the bottom of the page for a new post…

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Posted by: ituhata.6830

ituhata.6830

Freedom of speech doesn’t apply to videogames.

freedom of speech applies to everything.

No it doesn’t. And if you don’t believe me, walk into your bosses office right now and tell him how you really feel…

Yeah, I thought so.

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Posted by: Noobless.8592

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Subscribing because I can’t wait to see what some of these people’s banning reasons whenever the mod posts them.

People like you shouldnt even comment dude, you are not helping this post ONE BIT. Just pathetic please keep those useless opinion to yourself or post it somewhere else. People who post here actually seek help not like you coming and posting this useless kitteny comments. Please grow up guys this is a forum for account issues not kitteny people who come around to laugh at other people who got banned.
No offense but im getting sick of people saying these stuff here, me and couple of people got a 14 day ban for nothing and you come in and throw these stuff at us.
Bump, Ticket number :120904005098
Please help asap.
Thank you

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Posted by: bayhas.9164

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You didn’t get banned for nothing. You got banned for -something- which is what you posting your ticket number is getting reviewed with. I can tell that you can’t find that place in your mind to squelch yourself because it looks like you’ve gotten a reword (kitteny?) forum placement already. If you wouldn’t say it to a child, don’t say it. The game has a T rating for the content, not rated by the ESRB but clearly ArenaNet doesn’t want the same debilitating playerbase that plagues many other MMOs and other Social Games and is doing something about it.

Just be careful on being hypocritical because the mod already did state that if you did say something to get banned and it’s justified, you’ll be putting your foot in your mouth when they post it.

Edit Note: Just saw your previous post. You admitted that you got banned for using the “N” word, which is a racial slur, I’d say they are justified. Thanks for proving my point.

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Posted by: bayhas.9164

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CURRENT TICKETS FOR REVIEW

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Shigbone.2784 #120831-021756
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Posted by: Noobless.8592

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CURRENT TICKETS FOR REVIEW

TOTO.3175 #120904-003192
Shigbone.2784 #120831-021756
Noobless.8592 #120904-005098

To Assist.

Thanks.
And yes I did admit that I said a word, and I deserve punishment but it is clearly not 14 days as other people ALL have 3 days. I would like to know what made me more than them? or MAYBE its a sort of mistake
and btw, kitteny was not a swear word it was something else but was censored somehow. So yeah, I did make a mistake but I dont think 14 days is a suitable punishment for it. Anyhow I dont want to argue lets keep it clean for the mod to reply as soon as possible
Edit: And it clearly states that any chat offense gets a 3day ban while I got a 14, and I read somewhere that you get a warning? Didnt get any sort of thing and just a straight 14 day ban which is harsh tbh.

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Posted by: Rock.7324

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I have seen myself insulting people, being banned 3 days.

So, you were banned before?

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The account issues subforum is not for discussing the rules of conduct. Since this thread has run it’s course, it will now be locked. If Gaile has anything to add to this thread, she will do so as time allows.