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Posted by: Setch.2398

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I can’t thank you enough for punishing people who are used to spouting off trash in other games. This has been a truly unique experience for me. The chat is truly tolerable most nights. And a person who goes for the shock factor with utter filth is not there the next day.

Thank you.

It’s great to see a company take control. I can’t express my gratitude enough. For the first time ever I see a game company telling people it’s not ok to hold the rest of us verbally hostage with their antics.

Thank You, Thank you.

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Posted by: DavidGX.1723

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Agreed. I’m glad to see someone taking rule enforcement seriously. I wish that had been done a lot better in WoW, it would have been a much more enjoyable game.

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You wouldn’t get banned for that. They’ve stated this multiple times.

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Posted by: Flexe.9041

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Amen.

Hopefully people will learn from mistakes. It’s such a breath of fresh air to be thanked for taking your time out to help someone and the general population being helpful and friendly.

Hopefully it will remain this way.

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Posted by: tropby.3965

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Agreed. I’m glad to see someone taking rule enforcement seriously. I wish that had been done a lot better in WoW, it would have been a much more enjoyable game.

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You wouldn’t get banned for that. They’ve stated this multiple times.

And yet it happend. To me
Made a ticket. Not expecting responce till thos 62 hours i have left are over tho.

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Posted by: SoPP.7034

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Nice to see a post like this.
Sure there will be those that are punished unfairly but ultimately i want a system like this to keep people accountable for their actions.
thumbs up OP

A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
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Posted by: DavidGX.1723

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Agreed. I’m glad to see someone taking rule enforcement seriously. I wish that had been done a lot better in WoW, it would have been a much more enjoyable game.

No. A 72 hour ban for saying “F@?K yeah we finely killed this boss” is not okey
this is a horrible system.

You wouldn’t get banned for that. They’ve stated this multiple times.

And yet it happend. To me
Made a ticket. Not expecting responce till thos 62 hours i have left are over tho.

I’d bet you said more than that to get banned.

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Posted by: elk.1493

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Agreed. I’m glad to see someone taking rule enforcement seriously. I wish that had been done a lot better in WoW, it would have been a much more enjoyable game.

No. A 72 hour ban for saying “F@?K yeah we finely killed this boss” is not okey
this is a horrible system.

You wouldn’t get banned for that. They’ve stated this multiple times.

And yet it happend. To me
Made a ticket. Not expecting responce till thos 62 hours i have left are over tho.

I’d bet you said more than that to get banned.

this is always the way it goes. not to “fight the system”, but I’m too worried to say anything on toilet humour level right now in game, it may not be bannable, but I’m definitely afraid an evangelical being might smite me for uttering “poo” in public chat. but maybe that’s a good thing? if people are more worried about riskay language, then maybe they’ll be more considerate.
however I didn’t notice this level of banhammer activity in GW1 (maybe it was still there), and there wasn’t much of a problem, apart from the occasional troll in pvp or shing jea.

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Posted by: sobelius.4756

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While I agree that having a system in place is useful, the execution has not been well thought out. The naming rules, for example, state that being suspended for 72 hours is your warning. This is NOT the right way to use such a tool — and it makes GW2 feel like a totalitarian state rather than a game.

Taking punitive action against outrightly offensive names or exploiting is one thing, but when you have a name that is only potentially offensive if someone chooses to read it that way, then being suspended before you even have a chance to correct or change the name is NOT a sane way to enforce a policy. At the very least ANET could have sent out mass email telling people to re-read the various naming rules (with links to the pages they provide in the “account suspended” dialog). It would not have stopped everyone, but it would have been a truer definition of “warning”.

Again, I don’t disagree with the rules themselves, but as soon as you have it happen to you you’ll understand how draconian and heavy-handed it is to be punished before you even have a chance to know it and correct it.

In case you’re wondering, here are my character names:

Autumnio the Red (Sylvari Elementalist)
Bloodric Gutspiller (Norn Warrior)
The Ragged Tiger (Charr Ranger)
Fittle Lucker (Asura Thief)
Verdigrina (Human Necromancer)

I try to name my characters to with a sense of character. Guess which one got me suspended for 3 days. I played for a week and never had anyone complain to me about my character names — in fact, a couple of people sent me tells to say my Thief’s name was funny.

I’ll rename him, of course, and keep playing. But I’m no fan of this over-the-top penalizing, and especially object to the policy of “your suspension is your warning”.

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Posted by: Kevhoran.1780

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While I agree that having a system in place is useful, the execution has not been well thought out. The naming rules, for example, state that being suspended for 72 hours is your warning. This is NOT the right way to use such a tool — and it makes GW2 feel like a totalitarian state rather than a game.

Taking punitive action against outrightly offensive names or exploiting is one thing, but when you have a name that is only potentially offensive if someone chooses to read it that way, then being suspended before you even have a chance to correct or change the name is NOT a sane way to enforce a policy. At the very least ANET could have sent out mass email telling people to re-read the various naming rules (with links to the pages they provide in the “account suspended” dialog). It would not have stopped everyone, but it would have been a truer definition of “warning”.

Again, I don’t disagree with the rules themselves, but as soon as you have it happen to you you’ll understand how draconian and heavy-handed it is to be punished before you even have a chance to know it and correct it.

In case you’re wondering, here are my character names:

Autumnio the Red (Sylvari Elementalist)
Bloodric Gutspiller (Norn Warrior)
The Ragged Tiger (Charr Ranger)
Fittle Lucker (Asura Thief)
Verdigrina (Human Necromancer)

I try to name my characters to with a sense of character. Guess which one got me suspended for 3 days. I played for a week and never had anyone complain to me about my character names — in fact, a couple of people sent me tells to say my Thief’s name was funny.

I’ll rename him, of course, and keep playing. But I’m no fan of this over-the-top penalizing, and especially object to the policy of “your suspension is your warning”.

I am sorry, not to sound rude but I would have reported your name had I seen it. I like a name with a good laugh as much as another but your thief’s name is just wrong, sorry

On the other hand I like your necro’s name

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Posted by: sobelius.4756

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I am sorry, not to sound rude but I would have reported your name had I seen it. I like a name with a good laugh as much as another but your thief’s name is just wrong, sorry

On the other hand I like your necro’s name

You don’t sound rude but you do sound uninformed. You see, over 33 levels of play I received no feedback from anyone other than “great name!” or “funny name!” I never behaved or acted in any way to offend someone and I certainly never said anything in chat that would have been offensive. As you can see from my other character names, I try to give them some personality. What I did not know was that misspellings of offensive words in names was a suspend-able offense. I found out after the suspension when ANET put very clear links to the naming rules in the “you are suspended” dialog that pops up when you log in. Had I been truly warned and given those links to see why, I would have made a change immediately. And I did not know that I would be immediately suspended with no option to correct the problem before the suspension.

If I were a lawyer I would be more willing to take exception to the problem with my name.

The word “Fittle” is not offensive.

The word “Lucker” is not offensive.

The name “Lucker Fittle” is not offensive. (You’d have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to be offended by it.)

But as soon as you reverse the words, the level of mental gymnastics seems to drop to a point where people who seem to be easily offended are, in fact, offended. OK, fair enough.

But does this really warrant an immediate 3 day account suspension — not just for the character in question but for all other characters on the account? There are so many ways they could have chosen to handle these issues, but they chose a pretty blunt instrument.

But at the end of the day, my main complaint is that they equate a suspension with a warning.

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Posted by: Eluziel.4650

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Agreed.
I don’t mind occasional language used as an enthusiastic comment, nor am I against various levels of humor

but having a game where people ARE punished for obviously taking thekitten which ‘Fittle Lucker’ is.. is a refreshing change. Besides.. a 3 day suspension isn’t bad.. and hopefully will teach you not to push it so far again.

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Posted by: Middlebud.7295

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if people are more worried about riskay language, then maybe they’ll be more considerate.

Or people could stop being juvenile, getting offended by syllables and certain combinations of characters as opposed to the actual meaning intended by them based on the context.

I can convey the most vile, horrid things without using any “foul” language. I can also use “foul” language and not mean anything negative by it. In fact, for many people (especially in the younger generations), saying “<Removed – please do not bypass the language filter – Thanks! ~ Dalmarus>” is not inflammatory in the least when they’re just using it as an adverb or an exclamation.

We’re not living in a white suburb from the 50’s. It’s not at all a safe assumption that anyone using one of the seven words is trying to stir up trouble or be disruptive, and it is legitimately a form of discrimination to censor a person’s regular speech pattern.

The only rule should be regarding disruptive behavior. It shouldn’t specify any words, or even “foul” language in general, because I guarantee that moderators are going to use any such specification as an excuse to be lazy, resulting in unwarranted punitive action.

but having a game where people ARE punished for obviously taking thekitten which ‘Fittle Lucker’ is.. is a refreshing change.

What world do you live in where over-censorship isn’t still the norm? Where people’s (mostly middle to upper class white people’s) uneducated views on language aren’t constantly coddled?

And I’m not saying that middle to upper class white people are the only ones with uneducated views on language, but theirs is the only uneducated view that throws around enough weight to warrant coddling on a systemic level.

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Posted by: sobelius.4756

sobelius.4756

Agreed.
I don’t mind occasional language used as an enthusiastic comment, nor am I against various levels of humor

but having a game where people ARE punished for obviously taking thekitten which ‘Fittle Lucker’ is.. is a refreshing change. Besides.. a 3 day suspension isn’t bad.. and hopefully will teach you not to push it so far again.

Well clearly not everyone I met believed I was “pushing it so far”. I really thought I was employing clever wordplay. And why should “punishment” be administered first instead of a clear warning?

For example, during the character creation process ANET could have popped up a dialog before you click confirmation of your character name and said “Read these rules about naming. If your name is found to violate the rules, you will be immediately suspended for 3 days”. That would have a been a fair warning.

If you think a 3 day out-of-the-blue suspension isn’t bad, I sincerely hope it happens to you some day and that it teaches you a lesson. The only lesson I learned was that I shouldn’t be surprised if something undesirable happens without fair warning.

For an in-game example, I recommend avoiding any of the encounters where you are offered a chance to bet on an outcome such as the Cowtapult engineer in the Charr lands. I thought the bet of “50 silver” was just a joke of the storyline, never expecting to get rewarded or to have my character’s money taken. But no. If you place a bet you do in fact lose the money. And of course it appears to be rigged to lose. There was no indication in the dialog that you were actually betting your own money. I just picked an option since that’s what I’d been doing in hundreds of other chats with NPCs. So yep, I “learned my lesson”. I ignore a lot of quest dialog now and really don’t engage NPCs much any more unless I know I have to. Pity.

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Posted by: sobelius.4756

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if people are more worried about riskay language, then maybe they’ll be more considerate.

I can convey the most vile, horrid things without using any “foul” language. I can also use “foul” language and not mean anything negative by it. In fact, for many people (especially in the younger generations), saying “<Removed – please do not bypass the language filter – Thanks! ~ Dalmarus>” is not inflammatory in the least when they’re just using it as an adverb or an exclamation.

Well said, Middlebud. Your entire comment raises other good issues as well.

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Posted by: Djill.2150

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Conclusion: people are never happy. Enforce the rules and people complain about cencorship. Don’t enforce the rules and you are catering to the trolls.

Personally I think that if you bother to make rules, you have to enforce them. Else it is a complete waste of time. You signed an agreement before playing the game, that was your warning.

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Posted by: ONEone.4823

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i also agree, but i got hacked and i’ve been waiting since saturday for a response to my ticket (i understand there are those that have been waiting much longer). i have played lotro for a very long time and now that they are f2p there is a lot of that offensive chat and stupid names that are a distraction to the immersion of the game. so a big thank you for not allowing that.

a friend of mine had his diablo 3 account hacked and he was back up and running in a couple hours. while i agree that there should be a strong response to that behavior there are people who didn’t do anything intentionally wrong that are made to wait and wait just to get back in.

i really enjoyed my time in the game but i think the response and support after they went banhammer crazy has been very bad.

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Posted by: Halmo.8619

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No it is not good at all. There are two sides to everything maybe you don’t like using some words, but others do and not being able to is just lame. Saying the smallest things and getting banned for 72 hours is not cool at all. You are probably one of the people that report someone for something like this, grow up and learn that not everyone reads the bible everyday.

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Posted by: Deunan Sanis.4731

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Check the Reddit topic about that

Someone was banned for saying:

" Where the kitten are the centaurs? I am a kitten I lose a tool everytime I chop one log? "

You can get banned for insulting yourself , quality moderation here

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Posted by: Kevhoran.1780

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I am sorry, not to sound rude but I would have reported your name had I seen it. I like a name with a good laugh as much as another but your thief’s name is just wrong, sorry

On the other hand I like your necro’s name

You don’t sound rude but you do sound uninformed. You see, over 33 levels of play I received no feedback from anyone other than “great name!” or “funny name!” I never behaved or acted in any way to offend someone and I certainly never said anything in chat that would have been offensive. As you can see from my other character names, I try to give them some personality. What I did not know was that misspellings of offensive words in names was a suspend-able offense. I found out after the suspension when ANET put very clear links to the naming rules in the “you are suspended” dialog that pops up when you log in. Had I been truly warned and given those links to see why, I would have made a change immediately. And I did not know that I would be immediately suspended with no option to correct the problem before the suspension.

If I were a lawyer I would be more willing to take exception to the problem with my name.

The word “Fittle” is not offensive.

The word “Lucker” is not offensive.

The name “Lucker Fittle” is not offensive. (You’d have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to be offended by it.)

But as soon as you reverse the words, the level of mental gymnastics seems to drop to a point where people who seem to be easily offended are, in fact, offended. OK, fair enough.

But does this really warrant an immediate 3 day account suspension — not just for the character in question but for all other characters on the account? There are so many ways they could have chosen to handle these issues, but they chose a pretty blunt instrument.

But at the end of the day, my main complaint is that they equate a suspension with a warning.

Hey, sorry but I am well informed in this matter as I had one of my names force changed back in another game because a part of it was considered a bad word in a different language (not even a language the game supported) and I had been using it for about 6-7 years with no complaints.

All it takes is for one person to complain.

The second part about the warning is that they don’t have to, read the code of conduct you agreed to, it states they don’t have to, just pay attention and follow the rules.

I agree with a name like that, that it may have nicer for a warning but they are not required to

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Posted by: Middlebud.7295

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Are all curse words replaced by “kitten” here? It’s making some of these recent posts mighty hilarious to read.

i still remember in gw1, when some1 called my character a kitten and i said “but im a cracker” and got banned for 78hours

Had me rollin’.

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Posted by: Samf.5423

Samf.5423

Thumbs up to the OP. I do agree with you.

Although I am not offended by these ‘bannable’ names, I turn off ‘Show All Player Names’ just to avoid the whole thing. Out of sight, out of mind. Works like a charm. I’d rather not deal with players and their incredibly lame name choices, even if I do get a laugh out of it. lol

Veera Whisperveil, Charr, Engineer, 23
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Posted by: SoPP.7034

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tl:dr
That said skimming through the wall of text essentially most people are saying “But all I did was, all that happened was”.
Pressure on ArenaNet has increased 10 fold. They are struggling to keep up with bugs/exploits etc. let alone having to worry about people trying to be ‘inventive’ with things.
In the relatively anonymous world of GW2 people’s behaviours get worse not better. As such ArenaNet has to make examples of people or the behaviours/language will simply get worse.
The ‘unfair’ crack downs actually make people think twice. I have no doubt ArenaNet will relax a little in the future, for now though GW2 is a huge beast that has grown quicker than most could imagine. They have to keep on top of things, it’s that simple. So while they have to put up with people QQ here, it makes their job 10 times easier in game.

A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”

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Posted by: Rombie.6591

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What are we losing by keeping the language civil?

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Posted by: Heartnet.4598

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I can’t thank you enough for punishing people who are used to spouting off trash in other games. This has been a truly unique experience for me. The chat is truly tolerable most nights. And a person who goes for the shock factor with utter filth is not there the next day.

Thank you.

It’s great to see a company take control. I can’t express my gratitude enough. For the first time ever I see a game company telling people it’s not ok to hold the rest of us verbally hostage with their antics.

Thank You, Thank you.

There are options for profanity filter and an ignore feature which are simple and easy to use.. banning people for swearing is NOT ok…. if theres kids on here that arnt allowed to read that then there is the filter…

Awful system.. arenanet are slowly losing there communitys faith… and will soon find themselves with less and less players if this system keeps in effect

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Posted by: Uc Night.8290

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pretty soon people are gonna be too scared to use map chat. Or even log into the game since people are getting banned because their accounts have been hacked. Honestly I may just wait until they fix all their systems before I play anymore.

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Posted by: Halmo.8619

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What are we losing by keeping the language civil?

Our personality maybe.

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Posted by: VanderBeltLegacy.4736

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Are all curse words replaced by “kitten” here? It’s making some of these recent posts mighty hilarious to read.

i still remember in gw1, when some1 called my character a kitten and i said “but im a cracker” and got banned for 78hours

Had me rollin’.

yeah, typical FORUM censorship, lol..one forum i posted on it would say “i love <Removed – Please refrain from bypassing the language filter. Thanks! ~ Dalmarus>” in replace of a swear word, lol

ignore the space, but it would say kitten other wise

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Posted by: mcl.9240

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pretty soon people are gonna be too scared to use map chat. Or even log into the game since people are getting banned because their accounts have been hacked. Honestly I may just wait until they fix all their systems before I play anymore.

Good. Maybe then I can go back to actually having map chat viewable by default. As it is, I turn it off in most MMOs (including this one) due to the extreme level of immaturity exhibited by those who tend to actively participate in it.

I’d like to add my voice to those in support of ArenaNet for taking a firm stance against those who harass, belittle, insult, or otherwise attack others via the various chat features in the game. The presence of a profanity filter is very much NOT a license to curse, as has been stated by ArenaNet in the past. If you can’t manage to express yourself in a civil manner around total strangers, it’d be best not to say anything at all.

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Posted by: bayhas.9164

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Fittle Lucker (Asura Thief)

Really? It’s insinuation of the reverse. Reportable and bannable since you went around normal naming conventions to hide and be funny about what it would say if the F and the L were reversed.

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Posted by: bayhas.9164

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pretty soon people are gonna be too scared to use map chat. Or even log into the game since people are getting banned because their accounts have been hacked. Honestly I may just wait until they fix all their systems before I play anymore.

Every post that you’ve got on your list is something about how you are unhappy with your Karma Exploiting ban.. unhappy about this… and that.. if you are that unhappy then there are alternatives, otherwise stay within the guidelines and enjoy this wonderful game.

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Posted by: VanderBeltLegacy.4736

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pretty soon people are gonna be too scared to use map chat. Or even log into the game since people are getting banned because their accounts have been hacked. Honestly I may just wait until they fix all their systems before I play anymore.

Every post that you’ve got on your list is something about how you are unhappy with your Karma Exploiting ban.. unhappy about this… and that.. if you are that unhappy then there are alternatives, otherwise stay within the guidelines and enjoy this wonderful game.

agreed, if i cant kitten post in his exploit thread, then he shouldnt be allowed to kitten post here

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Posted by: anonymouse.9053

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I agree with the op. Cheers to ArenaNet for holding people accountable. It’s amazing how people think they can say whatever they want even though a lot of other people will read those words. Anonymity on the Internet makes people think there are no boundaries.

As for the people saying there is a filter, that’s sort of like telling people to walk down the street with their hands over their ears so they don’t have to listen to you yelling out obscenities in public. Oh wait, you don’t yell out obscenities to strangers in public areas? And why is that? Because there are consequences. This game works the same way.

I find it mind boggling that people would bother type curse words in chat, when it’s faster and MUCH more gratifying to say or yell those words.

Unless, of course, it’s for attention.

Anyway, ArenaNet is doing what other MMOs should have been doing for years. Thank you for trying to keep the game free of excessive immaturity.

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For my $0.02 worth (yeah I know blah blah) I think an account wide 3 day suspension for a naming infraction is just excessive. Perhaps that toon being banned for 3 day or being banned until a moderator or GM can approve the new name so they can get back to playing… well that seems more appropriate, though with everything going on that solution would probably amount to more than a 3 day ban right now. Sadly.

The flipped name “Fittle Lucker” wow, I have a dirty mind, I cuss, I make sailors blush, and I’m a girl. It took me several minutes to unravel that one, much longer than I would have seen that name unless I was standing behind him at the Bank or TP, so yeah. I honestly think that people that aren’t mature enough to IGNORE things like that have issues. My Mama taught me a loooooong time ago that we can’t control other people’s behavior. And being an adult is part of accepting that in my opinion. I hear people cuss in Wal-Mart, I hear screaming kids one isle over (which is like nails on a chalkboard to me… and my mother constantly reminds me I was NEVER allowed to scream like that as a child) people talk in movies, but I have never, ever, not even ONCE asked for someone to be REMOVED from an establishment of any kind. I’m an adult I tune it out. And I honestly don’t see the need to report ANYONE even if they cussed you blue. Why? Because you can block them, censor them in chat, and remove the ability to see their name-tag in game YOURSELF without ever getting a GM involved. Unless you just want to enact your own revenge on someone by taking away something from them (maybe because you can’t do it yourself???) I see no reason for anyone to report anyone, really.

And as far as these forums blatantly putting in the word “kitten” as a substitute for foul language in various posts, that’s more offensive to me than the original cuss word because I honestly jump to the conclusion that for some arbitrary reason the poster threw the slang word for female anatomy in at a random part in the post, and I’m like WTF? Couldn’t they use a world like “hippopotamus” or something? YIKES!

I’m also an active community member. I’ve been reading the updates, reading the forums and I’ve followed the development of this game for 3 years. If players in chat have questions, I do my darnedest to help them if I know, or at least say I don’t know. I’ve been trying to offer help here as well if I’ve read a post elsewhere that might help or give someone hope. I was raised by someone who cared enough about me to instill that care in other people and taught me that just because people do bad things or things we don’t like, doesn’t mean they should be looked down upon, thrown out, or reviled. In other words treat people like you want to be treated… frustrating as it is some days. AND I CUSS LIKE A (&$(&(*&*@#& GANGSTER!!!! Does that mean that I don’t get to be a part of this community? I cuss so much I honestly don’t even know I’m doing it most of the time, which really makes me uncomfortable around my best friends 6 year old but I digress.

In the end I do what is on my heart to do. Even if it’s a little rough around the edges. And I hope in the long run the community is a miniscule bit better for it.

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Posted by: draeath.8536

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+1.

People shouldn’t be cussing around in public. Keep a lid on it. Cuss at your friends in teamspeak. Leave /m, /s, and /t clean.

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Posted by: Soothsayer.9476

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People have been allowed to behave inappropriately online for too long. I’m sick and tired of browsing the internet and playing games and constantly having to read profanity and unnecessary swearing. It’s about time bad behaviour was clamped down on and these immature people realise it’s not acceptable to behave like this in a public environment.

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Posted by: CorpraSalaith.8912

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So why not use the tools that Arena net GAVE you on your individual account? You see someone cussing? Block them. Simple as that. The Six help those who help themselves. I fail to see the need to be so vindictive that you’d want someone banned (which honestly does nothing to change their behavior, and often times makes it worse when they come back) when you can turn on your chat filter, block them, and turn off player names. Then you’re all safe and cozy again.

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Posted by: mcl.9240

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I’m glad that ArenaNet recognizes the vast market of people that stay away from MMOs due to the immature behavior present in them. Unlike things like XBox Live Voice Chat, which one can simply disable and ignore without detracting one iota from the game being played, it’s difficult if not impossible to avoid some of the more egregious forms of in-game harassment in MMOs (obscene, sexual, or otherwise offensive character names and harassing chat).

As @Soothsayer said, these people have been allowed to get away with far too much for far too long, to the extent that they now expect to be allowed to behave like that in an MMO.

I’m proud to have given my money to ArenaNet, and I hope all the people who avoid playing MMOs due to the lack of maturity exhibited by a great many players will see that ArenaNet is drawing a line in the sand regarding this sort of behavior.

I’m happy that this sort of thing isn’t tolerated in GW2, and that there are severe consequences associated with it.

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Posted by: CalvinHobbes.3541

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I honestly think that people that aren’t mature enough to IGNORE things like that have issues.

You and me both. They need shelter from the actions of others because they obviously lack the ability to ignore.

My Mama taught me a loooooong time ago that we can’t control other people’s behavior. And being an adult is part of accepting that in my opinion. I hear people cuss in Wal-Mart, I hear screaming kids one isle over (which is like nails on a chalkboard to me… and my mother constantly reminds me I was NEVER allowed to scream like that as a child) people talk in movies, but I have never, ever, not even ONCE asked for someone to be REMOVED from an establishment of any kind. I’m an adult I tune it out. And I honestly don’t see the need to report ANYONE even if they cussed you blue. Why? Because you can block them, censor them in chat, and remove the ability to see their name-tag in game YOURSELF without ever getting a GM involved. Unless you just want to enact your own revenge on someone by taking away something from them (maybe because you can’t do it yourself???) I see no reason for anyone to report anyone, really.

Couldn’t say it better myself.

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Posted by: anonymouse.9053

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Huh? People ARE using one of the tools ArenaNet gives them. One of those tools is the ability to report people.

If you want to swear up a storm or if you want to pick a name you think will get you some attention, go for it, but be prepared to deal with the consequences.

If the people who are banned return and act up again, the second suspension will probably be longer, or maybe permanent. Woot!

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Posted by: Elsefyre.1924

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I don’t want this to be blown out of proportion (in here) but this is actually a real world controversial topic which is ‘censorship’. Also as an indirect topic there’s a country in Asia that doesn’t allow chewing-gum or cigarettes b/c it has a very high regard for public cleanliness (I’m not too sure about the cigarettes one but it has the same idea w/ chewing-gum being spat on the floor). So the thing is how far are you going to facilitate what people can or can’t do, you can argue that it makes everything better but that’s your opinion (this is a statement, I’m not saying that I don’t agree w/ your opinion on facilitation on chat). All I’m saying is there’s two sides to everything, wanting less censorship on words doesn’t always equate to swearing all over the place.

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Posted by: Elsefyre.1924

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Huh? People ARE using one of the tools ArenaNet gives them. One of those tools is the ability to report people.

If you want to swear up a storm or if you want to pick a name you think will get you some attention, go for it, but be prepared to deal with the consequences.

If the people who are banned return and act up again, the second suspension will probably be longer, or maybe permanent. Woot!

My statement and this.

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Posted by: CC Dalmarus.8397

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Hey folks!

Just a quick reminder for everyone – bypassing the language filter is frowned upon, so please refrain from doing so. Just as we are vigilant about language in the game, so are we here on the forums. Thanks!

Carry on!

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Posted by: CalvinHobbes.3541

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If you want to swear up a storm or if you want to pick a name you think will get you some attention, go for it, but be prepared to deal with the consequences.

The problem I have with the name issue is all the slang and double meanings that many folks may not be privy to. So some player creates a name using one of these words that for some reason has been adopted by the internet community to mean something extremely offensive. But to this player the word means what it means to them and they’ve never heard the alternate meaning. So then this player gets reported and banned. How is that fair?

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Posted by: anonymouse.9053

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So if I grow up in one area of the world and move to another area where the word “greetings” is considered a curse word due to different language interpretations, does this mean I can go down the street saying “greetings” to people without dealing with consequences? No it doesn’t.

People are going to lie and say, “But I didn’t know it meant that” or “I was talking to someone in whisper but accidentally said it in /map chat” or one of dozens of other excuses.

People need to learn to accept consequences for their actions.

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Posted by: orca.1806

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Hey folks!

Just a quick reminder for everyone – bypassing the language filter is frowned upon, so please refrain from doing so. Just as we are vigilant about language in the game, so are we here on the forums. Thanks!

Carry on!

Thank goodness they hired you to be the forums hall monitor when you could be assisting people with blocked accounts.

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Posted by: Moderator

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While we appreciate the spirit with which this thread was posted, it is off-topic for this sub-forum. The Account Issues sub-forum is a place to get account support from the Customer Support Team. It is not a place to discuss policy enforcement or debate policy. Thank you for your understanding.