Blocked players can still see group in LFG

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Posted by: In It To Win It.2315

In It To Win It.2315

Whenever I run into a particularly bad player and the group decides they need to be removed for that dungeon I block them and then relist the group. I have noticed recently that blocked players can still see the group listing and rejoin. Why is this?

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

When blocking someone, you can’t see them (or their chat), but they can see you (and your activities).

Just the way Block works. (Just like block would work on the forums, if such a thing existed; you would not be able to see what they posted, but they would be able to see your posts.) /shrug

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In It To Win It.2315

So then there is absolutely no reason for block to exist? Gotcha.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

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A matter of preference, I suppose. Some would rather not receive whispers, etc. from certain other players.

Some of the Block functions are controversial. There are many threads about the Block function. Though, it’s not a bug, but WAI.

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In It To Win It.2315

Then it is not working as a block should. When I block a player I don’t want them to be able to see me online or my group listing or send me a message at all. Ya know like the idea of blocking someone should be. Why does facebook have a more correct blocking mechanic than ANet?

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

Then it is not working as a block should. When I block a player I don’t want them to be able to see me online or my group listing or send me a message at all. Ya know like the idea of blocking someone should be. Why does facebook have a more correct blocking mechanic than ANet?

Facebook is a social network system; GW2 is an MMO — of course the first has cutting edge tools for networking and of course the second does not.

Aside from that, the blocking system does the thing I think most important: it prevents me from seeing text from the subset of players that have nothing worth saying (in my estimation, of course).

I’d prefer for GW2 to have better tools: the friends list leaves a lot to be desired, /invisible doesn’t make you entirely invisible, and /block allows people to stalk (in the legal sense of the word, not just the social sense). It could all be a lot better. However, it’s not likely to get a lot better, since that would require overhauling the chat system, which in turn is probably more resource-intensive than ANet wants to spend on something that isn’t a core part of the gameplay.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

What you want is to be blocked from the other players. What the Block function does, here and in other programs, is block other players’ chat, etc. from you.

It’s not that uncommon of a way for block functions to work. You want something more like being invisible to others as a block function.

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Posted by: SlippyCheeze.5483

SlippyCheeze.5483

What you want is to be blocked from the other players. What the Block function does, here and in other programs, is block other players’ chat, etc. from you.

It’s not that uncommon of a way for block functions to work. You want something more like being invisible to others as a block function.

FWIW, bidirectional block is absolutely what people assume the feature does, until taught otherwise, online. This was a painful lesson in user expectations that held as true fifteen years ago as five when I worked places that investigated it.

So, I’d have expected that blocking someone made us both (completely) invisible to the other, and so would most people, if I hadn’t gone through the experience of seeing that learned through investigating what actual users believed block would do…

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

What you want is to be blocked from the other players. What the Block function does, here and in other programs, is block other players’ chat, etc. from you.

It’s not that uncommon of a way for block functions to work. You want something more like being invisible to others as a block function.

FWIW, bidirectional block is absolutely what people assume the feature does, until taught otherwise, online. This was a painful lesson in user expectations that held as true fifteen years ago as five when I worked places that investigated it.

So, I’d have expected that blocking someone made us both (completely) invisible to the other, and so would most people, if I hadn’t gone through the experience of seeing that learned through investigating what actual users believed block would do…

It’s far from the only software feature that engineers design to do XYZ, but customers expect will do ABC or even XYZ+. We think we speak the same language; sometimes we forget that ‘block’ can mean different things, depending on the context.

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Posted by: SlippyCheeze.5483

SlippyCheeze.5483

What you want is to be blocked from the other players. What the Block function does, here and in other programs, is block other players’ chat, etc. from you.

It’s not that uncommon of a way for block functions to work. You want something more like being invisible to others as a block function.

FWIW, bidirectional block is absolutely what people assume the feature does, until taught otherwise, online. This was a painful lesson in user expectations that held as true fifteen years ago as five when I worked places that investigated it.

So, I’d have expected that blocking someone made us both (completely) invisible to the other, and so would most people, if I hadn’t gone through the experience of seeing that learned through investigating what actual users believed block would do…

It’s far from the only software feature that engineers design to do XYZ, but customers expect will do ABC or even XYZ+. We think we speak the same language; sometimes we forget that ‘block’ can mean different things, depending on the context.

Thankfully that single problem is no longer my entire day job, but yeah, it’s for sure a thing!