Guild Wars 2

I’ve noticed twice now that confusion is ticking more then it actually should be.

In the first video, My health ticks around 18k as my heal ends then I’m downed within 2 seconds.

In the second video I begin on just under 21k health and I’m taken to 0 within 2 seconds. Looking through the combat log (Near the end of the video) I noticed that confusion ticked far more then it should have in that period of time. (You can also hear in that video I run full nomads on my ele)

Combat log from the second video typed out:

[8:08 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 463 using [Confusion]
[8:08 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 743 using [Bleeding]
[8:08 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 783 using [Poisoned]
[8:08 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 45 using [Impaling Lotus]
[8:08 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 45 using [Impaling Lotus]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] You heal yourself for 854 using [Frost Aura]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonband Silver critically hits you for 61 using [Impaling Lotus]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] You heal yourself for 105 using [Regeneration]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver Raider hits you for 463 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver Raider hits you for 460 using [Bleeding]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver Raider hits you for ¹⁵²⁸ using [Poisoned]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand silver raider hits you for 1006 using [Confusion]
[8:09 AM] You absorb Dragonbrand Silver Raiders [Death Blossom]
[8:09 AM] You absorb Dragonbrand Silver Raiders [Death Blossom]
[8:09 AM] You absorb Dragonbrand Silver Raiders [Death Blossom]
[8:09 AM] You hit dragonbrand Silver Raider for 317 using [Discharge Lightning]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver Raider hits you for 70 Using [Death Blossom]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver Raider hits you for 77 Using [Death Blossom]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver Raider hits you for 77 Using [Death Blossom]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver Raider hits you for 233 using [Bleeding]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver raider hits you for 79 using [Poisoned]
[8:09 AM] You heal yourself for 19,335 using [Vapour Form]
[8:09 AM] You absorb Dragonbrand Silver Raider’s [Impaling Lotus]
[8:09 AM] You absorb Dragonbrand Silver Raider’s [Impaling Lotus]
[8:09 AM] You absorb Dragonbrand Silver Raider’s [Impaling Lotus]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver Raider hits you for 513 using [Bleeding]
[8:09 AM] Dragonbrand Silver Raider hits you for 513 using [Bleeding]
[8:09 AM] You hit yourself for 21093 using [Vapor Form]

20 (If I can count correctly) ticks of confusion in 2 seconds.

Whoa!!!!!!
Massive bug!!!!
So much for condition damage being damage over time?!?!? 2 seconds to fully down you with CONDIs!!

Additional proof of the condi meta not only being too strong, but also being completely bugged…..
GG anet…. Please fix

Did you happen to see your combat log to see what ate all that health? It looks to me like you were lagging, and the enemy mesmer had already shattered on you, but it didn’t draw on your screen until after you were downed.

The combat log is less useful than it can be since it only has a 1 minute resolution.

What’s your build (specifically, traits)? The thief is dropping 5 stacks of confusion on you from the steal trait, and I notice the only skill you actively activate is the auto-attack, but from https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Confusion :

“Confusion damage is applied on every skill activation, whether activated manually or automatically. For example, necromancers will take confusion damage when they create a Mark of Blood after dodging while equipped with the Mark of Evasion trait. "

I definitely see you getting some boons as your health is dropping (regen+vigor+fury) – I think you have a few automatic traits that activate as skills and are causing confusion damage to tick on you again. At the very least you’re running soothing ice as I see the frost aura that would count as a skill activation kick off shortly before you go down, and there’s some final boon that kicks off right before you’re downed, I can’t even make out the icon – possibly aegis or protection, but if it too has a ‘silent skill’…

I actually had no idea that traits that have skill-type activations actually count against confusion, so that’s actually going to inform my builds moving forward – thanks for the video and asking, so I could learn that!

The second video shows the combat log, it has roughly 18? procs of confusion. There is no way that it could have activated that many times in that amount of time without it being a bug. For what it’s worth I saw the combat log the first time it happened and it was pretty much the same.

18 confusion ticks on a condi mesmer are nothing out of the ordinary. They can be applied easily with a full shatter + signet of illusions.

It happened to me on the weekend in WvW, on a Scrapper. From ~14k hp to downed in less than a second, against a condi mesmer. Unfortunately I don’t have any screenshots.

Purgatory.5702:

18 confusion ticks on a condi mesmer are nothing out of the ordinary. They can be applied easily with a full shatter + signet of illusions.

18 ticks and 18 stacks are completely different things … the DoT portion would only be 1 per second then the other 17 means OP had to be using 17 skills in that time period

Khisanth.2948:

Purgatory.5702:

18 confusion ticks on a condi mesmer are nothing out of the ordinary. They can be applied easily with a full shatter + signet of illusions.

18 ticks and 18 stacks are completely different things … the DoT portion would only be 1 per second then the other 17 means OP had to be using 17 skills in that time period

You don’t tick confusion for, say, every one of the five “attacks” a second from engineer flamethrower, do you? Something like that with some on-hit or whatevs activations could cover the ground for a lot of ticks?

SlippyCheeze.5483:

Khisanth.2948:

Purgatory.5702:

18 confusion ticks on a condi mesmer are nothing out of the ordinary. They can be applied easily with a full shatter + signet of illusions.

18 ticks and 18 stacks are completely different things … the DoT portion would only be 1 per second then the other 17 means OP had to be using 17 skills in that time period

You don’t tick confusion for, say, every one of the five “attacks” a second from engineer flamethrower, do you? Something like that with some on-hit or whatevs activations could cover the ground for a lot of ticks?

The answer to that is mixed, most skills proc once per activation but Unrelenting Attack(rev sword #3) procs per hit. However OP is an elementalist attuned to air the whole time in the second video. The only skill being activated was the autoattack. The autoattack takes 1.17s per attack. If you look at the combat log from the OP that is 16 confusion procs between the bleed and poison ticks. That means all 16 happened in under 1 second. That would coincide with the 16k+ confusion floater that shows up at 0:05/0:06 That would require having 15 things to proc.

Possibly fixed …

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-February-22-2017/6504219

Confusion: Fixed a bug in which the player could take a massive amount of damage if holding a ranged autoattack down while their target is behind them.