Dredge Commissar Chest Not Spawning

Dredge Commissar Chest Not Spawning

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Posted by: Kyban.4031

Kyban.4031

I have been defeating the Dredge Commissar every day for a while now with 6-7 characters in the hopes of getting a Commissar’s Manifesto and many times the ground chest that it’s supposed to drop from is not spawning for all of my characters. Anywhere from 1-4 characters per day will not have the chest spawn and there seems to be no correlation between which characters are missing out. All characters are getting gold in the event as well. I am doing this under the assumption that chest availability resets at 00:00 UTC, am I missing something?

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

You could be suffering from Diminishing Returns. I know it affect Rhendak: after spending so much time in the same spot, you end up getting reduced rewards.

The easiest way to see if that’s happening to you is to review the base amount of karma gained (that shows up with the gold/silver/bronze medallion — not the karma actually gained, since that can be affected by buffs). In the case of Rhendak, the first impact of DR is a ~30% loss of karma + no ‘ground chest’ and no bonus chest (the bouncy one); you just get the boss bag.

If it’s DR, then you just need to take the toon out of the spot for about an hour (real time) so it wears off. The longer your toon stays around, the longer it takes DR to wear off. Also if you keep returning without letting it burn off all the way.

I handle Rhendak by alternating the characters parked there. Sometimes I can go 2-3 weeks without hitting DR, but sometimes it’s only 2-3 days.

Good luck and let us know what ends up working for you.

John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”

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Posted by: Kyban.4031

Kyban.4031

Thanks for the tip, I had checked the wiki to see if it could have been DR but I guess the article there still needs some more info on it.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

Thanks for the tip, I had checked the wiki to see if it could have been DR but I guess the article there still needs some more info on it.

The community doesn’t have good info on DR, so I’m not surprised it hasn’t made it into the wiki for specific events.

The kill-count theory makes a lot of sense, but it doesn’t explain how/when/why DR affects events and event rewards. The wiki doesn’t mention kill counts, but it does discuss time and repetition.

Time spent near Rhendak completely explains the reduced karma (and absence of rewards) and why it can trigger after just a few fights or not until after two dozen. Since Rhendak can take 1-15 minutes per kill (waiting plus combat plus looting plus inventory management), the time adds up quickly.

I suspect — without sufficient evidence to back my claim — that it’s a combination of just about anything ANet could think of to reduce the rewards from narrow-focus farming, especially places/methods that could be easily botted.

  • Kill count
  • Time spent
  • Repeated events
  • Small ‘locus’ of combat (i.e. you don’t move much relative to a particular spot)

My theory is that DR triggers from any and any combination of above. And thus reversing means moving away from the farm area, the farther (and longer) the better. That’s why people go to WvW to remove Rhendak DR: it’s far and easy to spend an hour in the mists.


In practical terms, for Comrade Commissar, you could park say four toons (instead of six). When one hits DR, replace it from the bench.

John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”