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Game breaking: Transformations

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Posted by: Noerknhar.3826

Noerknhar.3826

I am refering to this thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/So-Eles-can-stomp-while-in-Mistform-but-we

In my opinion, this can only be cause by bad design or a bug.

Comparing mistform (elementalist) to deathshroud (necromancer):
stomp: yes (ele), no (necro)
rez: no (ele), no (necro)
change attunement = switch weapons: yes (ele), no (necro)
be healed by fellow players: yes (ele), no (necro)

Fix plz. Best solution would be to allow necromancer to do what ele and engineer can, but IDC as long as it’s fair.

(the same applies to engineer’s elixir S).

Enuerus Derune – Necromancer, Sylvari
[NO] ~ Ponys Will Never Die

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Posted by: synk.6907

synk.6907

These things aren’t even comparable. What are you doing?

Mist form is an invulnerability utility skill. Death Shroud is a class mechanic that provides an additional health bar and skills.

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Posted by: Noerknhar.3826

Noerknhar.3826

I’ll push this as I don’t think synk is right and hope for an official answer.

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[NO] ~ Ponys Will Never Die

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Posted by: ripAnubis.5817

ripAnubis.5817

Deathshroud and Mistform are two entirely different things. If you really want to compare Mistform to anything, take Elixir S, but to compare it with Deathshroud is like comparing Hundredblades to Plague. Both of them deal damage

and btw, you can swap your weapons in Deathshroud, you simply do not get different skills.

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Posted by: Archangelus.8671

Archangelus.8671

Deathshroud and Mistform are two entirely different things. If you really want to compare Mistform to anything, take Elixir S, but to compare it with Deathshroud is like comparing Hundredblades to Plague. Both of them deal damage

and btw, you can swap your weapons in Deathshroud, you simply do not get different skills.

Not for quite a while. They removed the ability to swap weapons in Death Shroud, it really messed up my rotation too.

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Posted by: Noerknhar.3826

Noerknhar.3826

There is no reason to say deathshroud and mistform are something different. There is no reason to not be able to stomp or rez or swap weapons in deathshroud.

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[NO] ~ Ponys Will Never Die

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Posted by: ripAnubis.5817

ripAnubis.5817

Not for quite a while. They removed the ability to swap weapons in Death Shroud, it really messed up my rotation too.

Oh, I missed that change completly. Been a while since I played my Necro

There is no reason to say deathshroud and mistform are something different. There is no reason to not be able to stomp or rez or swap weapons in deathshroud.

Can you deal damage or CC in Mist Form? No.
Can you do it in Death Shroud? Well, the last time I checked yes.

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Posted by: Noerknhar.3826

Noerknhar.3826

Oh okay, so just because i can deal damage in DS means that everything else that mist form is superior in is absolutely fair?

so dealing damage is equal to being immune to direct dmg, immune to cc, able to stomp, able to be healed and able to switch weapons?

Sorry, but I can’t take that as your serious statement. Guess you’re playing ele?

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Posted by: Noerknhar.3826

Noerknhar.3826

We won’t get a statement, right?

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Posted by: Melkiah.2496

Melkiah.2496

You probably won’t get any statement because you are comparing two skills that even if are both transformations have nothing in common. One is a specific class’ mechanic, the other one is another class’ utility. Comparing them is non-sense

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Posted by: ripAnubis.5817

ripAnubis.5817

We won’t get a statement, right?

From me?Unfortunately I’m not able to read the forums 24/7.
No, I don’t play ele and I have no intentions to start. What I’m trying to say is that youare comparing two completly different things. Yes, both make yuo change your appearance, but this is the only feature they share. One is a class mechanic to add more depth to the profession, the other is clearly some kind of panicbutton-get-my kitten out-of-here.