Heart Reknown bug or intentional?

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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In the Iron marches there is 1 particular karma vendor who after completing the heart you can not access his store if a certain boss is up. What happens is he just mumbles on about the boss being up and to go and kill it. The vendor’s name is Jaggedclaw (sorry I forget the rest of his name). I did report this by using the in game bug report over a month ago and since then nothing has changed so I started to worry that this was intenional.

Now this boss is a champion who also has a group of 20 sidekicks with him so he is NOT easily dealt with. Also no other heart reknown vendor in the entire game requires you to have a group to complete any part of it or to access the store. So this really tells me that this should not be intentional. Also I very much doubt that this vendor has anything amazing that would require you to go through so much effort. “Why is this so much effort” you might say? “Ask for a group or get a gang to deal with him”. When I first noticed this situation it was while I was on my first playthrough of the game with my first character. Back then pretty much all the maps were crowded with people and you would hit the overflow very often. So back then sure yes this MIGHT have been possible but now, well you know the story most of these maps are empty. Now the reason I put MIGHT in bold just then was because even back then when I did go through on my first guy when the map was crowded I DID call for/ask for an extermination team from map chat so I could access the store. Sadly I got no response the few times I called for one.

So in summary, I seriously believe that if this is intentional to please reconsider. As I said no other heart requirement or access to the store after requires you to need a group (for a champion boss with 20 sidekicks I am assuming a sized 10+ group would be needed) to do so. Sure I know that there are vendors in Orr that require this to access their stores and their amazing armour skins. But in these cases they are NOT karma vendors/hearts. Which is why I assume they are not reknown vendors because the intenion for the last 3 maps in Orr is to NEED to group to access/do certain things, unlike all the maps before that do feature hearts.

In advance thanks for your time and any info.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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No body else have issues with this? This is obviously effecting so many people as even the Wiki has all the other vendors stores info except this very one…..

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Posted by: Azula.7012

Azula.7012

I guess most people wouldn’t really care. I would say it is intentional, but I think your right that it should be changed. Maybe you should include the details of where the vendor is, and what event is stopping you from talking to him.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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Well the thing is if someone from Anet sees this post and looks into it I am sure the information I have already given is plenty for them to do so. :P

I discovered this problem because as I have been playing the game I have been making vendor and karma vendor lists to help me train skills like cooking etc. This is the only one I am missing in the whole game! I have a feeling this vendor may sell oranges which I really need more of lol……..

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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Now that the Halloween event is over and all those bugs are out of our/their hair, I’ll bump this back to the top. In hopes that someone from Anet can get to see it and hopefuly answer this post. :p

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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I’m not sure on the “bumping” rules here so here goes – Bump. Sadly with my timezone it’s hard for my post to be alive long enough for anyone at Anet to see I guess…

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Posted by: Saya.1260

Saya.1260

I checked Tarnished Coast – same thing. The area is Crystalswept Groves and the quest is Defeat Victurus and his Branded army. It’s a group event.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

There are a number of NPCs that are not available during events, notably in various places around Orr. There is are some crafting stations that are also disabled under similar circumstances.

Consequently, I think this is intended behavior and if you want to get ANet to address it, your best bet is to start a new thread in the Suggestions forum.

I like the idea that events can affect which NPCs/services are available; I think it makes the game more dynamic and interesting. However, I agree with the OP’s implied point that a single player should be able to do something to re-activate the NPC or service. I can think of three solutions that would resolve the issue:

  1. As suggested by the OP, make it less likely that the services will be disable, e.g. by moving the relevant NPCs farther from the battle lines.
  2. Make it easier to restore services, e.g. by scaling down the fight difficulty to the number of players.
  3. Give the relevant NPC a dialogue option that will encourage them to move to a safe-for-business location, e.g. “Psst. I have some goods available for sale — meet me around the corner.”
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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I understand about the various Npc’s Illconceived Was Na.9781 and totally understand with regards to them and share your same view of them being set up that way. But as stated since Reknown hearts are soloable so too should be access to the vendor store afterwards.

I have 100% world map complete now on 2 char’s so I have done every single heart twice and this is the only vendor I have had this issue with so I guess I have been lucky with all the other heart people or simply helped them with their event without realising it. So thanks for the heads up there Saya.

PS – the Npc I am referring to does not move from his location and is in no way hindered by the event as the enemy and his army is some distance away. He mearly just mentions about the event in much the same way most other non important npc’s do when they run up to you trying to gain your attention. It’ just seems that the “view vendor” option disables when this event is ongoing.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

The situation you describe is identical to others. I wouldn’t say you are lucky that your 100% map completion toons are lucky, so much as you are unlucky with this particular NPC. In any case, I think we are mostly in agreement that it’s mostly a good thing that NPCs are also affected by local events unless it becomes nearly impossible to do anything about it, as your stated example.

(PS gz on your map completions! that’s impressive)

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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“(PS gz on your map completions! that’s impressive)”

Off topic but it’s nothing that great. Simply put I have too much free time on my hands due to personal issues and so I do what’s fun for me – Gw2. :P

When I play on a new char and go for world complete I try for 1 map complete each day. For most people I would say it would/should take 2-3 days doing this depending on their playstlye and patience/like of exploring/completing things.

Now back to the topic at hand, your turn Anet please – discuss.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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What a shame we do not have a “bump” button here like some other sites do……

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Posted by: aliquis.9180

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I ran into the same situation as you did. I tried to take out the sidekicks by myself because no one was around and found that they respawned quicker than I could kill them. The group is extremely dangerous to a single player and I nearly got killed more than once. I ended up having to give up on the whole thing and was never able to access the vendor. I believe he is the only one in the game that I was never able to access and I was pretty frustrated about it at the time.

“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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Oh I know, first time I ran into this event I tried the sidekicks myself and killed about 5-6 before they started respawning. I thought “great I was worried about him being a champion and soloing him, now that these respawn I def can NOT solo this” lol.

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Posted by: Halvaard.1034

Halvaard.1034

It’s dissapointing that, since this in a lower traffic area, many players will never get to use this NPC. Especially since most other Renown Heart Vendors do not behave like this.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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That’s my point exactly Halvaard….and I’m sure the guy has nothing special anyway. However I am making lists of all vendors and such just because I have OCD like that lol and this is just killing me not knowing what this guy has. It could be a certain skin for a weapon or armour or as I said more food items in bulk.

I just need to know! :P

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