Invulnerable finishes.
I strongly disagree.
It would be the same for stability, then. And casting stability before starting a finisher is quite common and looks like a good mechanism.
It’s always worked this way they won’t change it. Sometimes you save that skill just for the finisher. If you are doing then you should be able to fishing someone without being interrupted. There is some skill to it. Especially like in the case with Mesmer and distortion.
But with Stability, you can still interact with them. Stability can be removed by someone else and then the finisher can be interrupted or hit for damage while finishing. With a Mist form finish, you’re done, there is nothing more that can be done. They cannot be damaged, they cannot be CC’d, nothing.
You might say, why not include a Warrior here as well with Endure Pain and Stability? Because they can still get interacted with. You can still hit them (albeit for 0 damage) and the Stability can still be removed. The problem lies with not being able to interact with the one finishing. You’re already down and likely can’t stop them from finishing you, but if they use an invulnerability skill like Mist form, it removes any kind of counter play.
Just because “It’s always worked this way” doesn’t mean it’s not a broken mechanic and shouldn’t be fixed. If you cannot start a finish after you’ve gone into the invulnerable state (such as Mist form), you should not be able to do a finish while in that state.
With a Mist form finish, you’re done, there is nothing more that can be done.
You can teleport away with the Thief or Mesmer downed skill, or use the Elementalist downed Vapour Form to get away. So you’re not one of those classes? Then have your allied Thief, Mesmer or Engineer give you stealth, as stealth will make all stomps whiff. There’s still counter play, it just involves someone else using a utility skill to offset the utility skill being used to try to stomp you.
10/10 he is a warrior
btw op, lets not make life more difficult for roamers pretty pls
10/10 he is a warrior
btw op, lets not make life more difficult for roamers pretty pls
Actually you’d lose that bet. I main Ranger. If you can’t take camps or deal with small scale skirmishes without abusing an invulnerable finish, that’s a problem with the class or the player.
With a Mist form finish, you’re done, there is nothing more that can be done.
You can teleport away with the Thief or Mesmer downed skill, or use the Elementalist downed Vapour Form to get away. So you’re not one of those classes? Then have your allied Thief, Mesmer or Engineer give you stealth, as stealth will make all stomps whiff. There’s still counter play, it just involves someone else using a utility skill to offset the utility skill being used to try to stomp you.
You raise a point about that being the counter play however the fact remains that finishers can’t be started after going into an alternate form such as Mist Form or Death Shroud. It can only be done if you simutanously activate the form and the finisher. If you can’t activate a finisher after going into the form, why should you be able to complete it during the alternate form. If they changed it so that you can activate the alternate form and then activate the finisher, then the game’s rules would be consistent. As of right now, it’s a bug that you can activate an alternative form and a finisher at the same time.
i still dont see why so many ppl want creative usage of skills be gone..
yday some guy w spectral walk nerf, now dis.
either way, its not a bug, everyone in livestreams /tournaments even (ToL for example) been using in front of devs, so its not a bug
Creative use is one thing. Mechanics being bypassed is another. As long as finishing cannot be started from within an altered form, you should not be able to simultaneously activate an altered form and a finish. It’s conflicting mechanics. They need to fix it so that you can either start a finish after activating an alternate form like Mist Form or Death Shroud or change it that being in an alternate form interrupts any current finishings. Just because the devs may be aware of an issue, doesn’t mean it’s not a mechanic bug that needs to be fixed.
Well, they are fixing Death Shroud so that you can start a finisher while in it, so…
Well, they are fixing Death Shroud so that you can start a finisher while in it, so…
…. at least they are making it consistent.