If I can buy item(s) off the TP, craft them, and then sell them to the merchant for a profit – is it considered a bannable exploit? Since the whole thing is reliant on the prices charged by players I’d like to think not – but I thought I’d check here.
Edit: Here’s an example of the situation, but not anything remotely like the actual situation since I’d rather not spread potential exploits.
Let’s say I know that if I can buy Green Wood for at least 10c per, that I can craft it into Green Wood Planks and sell those to the merchant for 11c. If I find copper for 10c or less I’ve made a profit. A small profit, but easy. Is it an exploit?
At the very least they should look into making it so crafted items only vendor for the total of the vendor prices of the items used.
considering that there’s a profit without do anything else that buying/reselling, probably yes. i suggest u to report details to the ‘exploit report e-mail’ (i think is exploits@arena.net) before using it.
No it is not. The only way you’d be exploiting anything is if you managed to find a bug making an item cheaper than intended and then reselling it for a profit. Trading post items are not subject to this since it is up to the players to determine the item’s worth.
its not an exploit as ive bought stuff that people sold on trade post and it was lower price then the vendor price u can get selling to them so should people get banned for some1 putting a silly price down? u forget that the economy isnt set yet as people r just starting to sell and not knowing what things r worth yet. such as ive seen people that r selling items that r on the trade post for the same amount ud get for selling straight to a vendor so they r losing money as they got to put up the listing fee as well.
Eh, I’m not saying it’s necessarily effective. I suspect other people have caught on as well. But considering the TP won’t allow you to sell something for merchant price (must be at least 1c more) it seems off that you can sell something to the merchant for more than it cost on the TP.
Possibly an exploitable oversight that the nature of the TP (it’s a buyer’s market that constantly pushes prices down) will occasionally allow people to make easy money off of (coppers at a time, but still. It’s pretty much free).
We shouldn’t have to ask questions like this. Anet needs to be a whole hell of a lot more transparent about this sort of thing.
They need to communicate with us more, and they need to lay out the intended uses of the different currency systems and how they interact with each other, and if any currency conversions are intended. As it stands now I’m afraid to do much of anything other than leveling up alts, because people keep getting banned for doing things that I would never have thought twice about doing myself.
Very true Perfect, in most MMOs buying stuff for less than vendor price from the Auction House/Trade Broker/etc. is completely viable. Just that since they have programmed in the inability to sell for that amount I was worried that crafting the items was a way to circumvent it.
Considering the average price of the item in question (a lot of people aren’t buying it if it falls below the break-even point) I doubt I’m the first to figure this out.
If you’re using materials to craft items which you’re in turn selling to a merchant that is not an exploit as you would have had to work on increasing your crafting discipline in the first place.
Without additional details, it’s hard to say whether your particular discovery is working as intended or is an exploit. If you suspect any action of being a possible exploit, please send an in-game ticket to our support team with all relevant details of the action/s taken. They will let you know whether it is an acceptable practice or whether it’s an exploit and should be halted.
Without additional details, it’s hard to say whether your particular discovery is working as intended or is an exploit. If you suspect any action of being a possible exploit, please send an in-game ticket to our support team with all relevant details of the action/s taken. They will let you know whether it is an acceptable practice or whether it’s an exploit and should be halted.
I edited the main post to give a pretty accurate example without revealing the exact ‘trick’. In my experience it’s best not to reveal exact steps for these sorts of things, whether it’s just a nifty trick or an actual exploit.
Edit: Also note, I’ve sent in a bug report, twitter question, a post here, and a support question
I’m utterly shocked by the response from Dalmarus.
Now I have to be careful what I buy on the trading post, because if Idiot A lists Item B for less then it sells for, heaven forbid I make any money.. ban incoming.
There should never be a ban for me buying something from the trading post. Ever. Period. If I find a great deal, that’s the entire freaking point of the trading post.
I’m utterly shocked by the response from Dalmarus.
Now I have to be careful what I buy on the trading post, because if Idiot A lists Item B for less then it sells for, heaven forbid I make any money.. ban incoming.
There should never be a ban for me buying something from the trading post. Ever. Period. If I find a great deal, that’s the entire freaking point of the trading post.
I didn’t take him as saying you’ll be banned for doing any of that. He told the OP to send in a ticket with exact details if he’s not positive if it’s an exploit, because he doesn’t want to just give the ok without knowing exactly what the OP is doing.
If you’re buying something from other users and can vendor that or a byproduct for a profit then why would it be an exploit? I can only see it being an exploit if an npc sold the item and you could immediately turn around and sell it for more directly to an npc vendor.
I’d say this is more good use of daytrading than an exploit. If someones posting items, or materials, below their actual value, that’s their ignorance, not a broken game mechanic.
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Not an exploit at all. If you go look you’ll sometimes find items that sell for less than the salvage you get from them. Many finished items cost less than the the cost of the items that make them. You’ll eventually run out of low cost materials though and will not be able to do this for a bit until more items get put up.
