Guild Wars 2

So me and my guild attempted to do a Keg Brawl Guild event today which might I add was a complete disaster due to the inability to form our own teams. We were separated into different matches but even worse was that we got put in uneven teams 2 vs 3 might seem like nothing but it gives a huge advantage to the one with 3 people in their team.

PLEASE add a customized match making system. Barely anyone plays keg brawl because we can’t play with the friends and teams we want. This isn’t Structured PvP which demands fairness by creating random teams. This is meant to be a fun mini-game activity. This separation makes keg brawl undesirable to play for fun. I’m quite surprised this hasn’t been implemented yet.

Now as for the Keg brawl cheating issue, Somehow people are throwing the keg half way or more across the field with a huge arc. For the life of me I can’t figure out how some of these people are doing it (neither can my guild members). They sort of jump up then throw the keg really really far (See the included screenshot).

So with people cheating, unevenly matched teams, separating friends, bugged achievements there’s absolutely no reason to play Keg Brawl. It’s just not fun that way. It’s such a shame as well because I do love Keg Brawl itself but it’s just so badly implemented.

I censored the persons name who was cheating but the circle on the left is pretty much where they were standing though I’ve seen it thrown a lot further than this by several different people.

The person was in no way cheating.

He is using an ability available to all players.

It’s not hidden, it’s not an exploit, it’s not using a skill in a sneaky way. It’s straight forward and anyone can do it.

The counter to it is to get infront of the person and to have people in organised positions instead of just running around trying to punch the person with the keg.

You’re playing Keg Brawl like it’s a zerg fest. Keg Brawl is soccer.

Instead of accusing other people of cheating, how about you join in the practice mode and actually test how the skills work and how they’re supposed to be used.

It’s an issue that has been around for months now. One of the reasons many people no longer play the mini game.

And it is cheating, a very clear case of exploiting. It involves using an ability in mid air and rotating the camera in a certain way to target much much further than the skill is intended to be used.

Wabbajack.8520:

It’s an issue that has been around for months now. One of the reasons many people no longer play the mini game.

And it is cheating, a very clear case of exploiting. It involves using an ability in mid air and rotating the camera in a certain way to target much much further than the skill is intended to be used.

No it does not.

Why are you spreading misinformation? The skill has nothing to do with ‘mid-air’. It’s just using one of the skills as intended.

Most people don’t bother to actually learn how the skills work and so they think one of them is broken. No skills in Keg Brawl are broken, and if you think they are then you’re not playing properly.

Of course whenever people don’t know how to play- a subset will (instead of learning how to play) start accusing other people of cheating. Keg Brawl has been modified multiple times since launch, to pretend that a core skill is somehow ‘unintended’ is a joke.

Risingashes.8694:

Wabbajack.8520:

It’s an issue that has been around for months now. One of the reasons many people no longer play the mini game.

And it is cheating, a very clear case of exploiting. It involves using an ability in mid air and rotating the camera in a certain way to target much much further than the skill is intended to be used.

No it does not.

Why are you spreading misinformation? The skill has nothing to do with ‘mid-air’. It’s just using one of the skills as intended.

Most people don’t bother to actually learn how the skills work and so they think one of them is broken. No skills in Keg Brawl are broken, and if you think they are then you’re not playing properly.

Of course whenever people don’t know how to play- a subset will (instead of learning how to play) start accusing other people of cheating. Keg Brawl has been modified multiple times since launch, to pretend that a core skill is somehow ‘unintended’ is a joke.

Things may have changed since this was posted, but the skill 1, “Throw,” which reads “A short, quick throw that is easily intercepted” and has stated range 400 can throw the keg across the entire map. That seems like the worst tooltip ever or an exploit.

I apologize. I was doing practice mode to get a feel for the “issue.” It seems as if practice mode has the first two skills switched and with stated ranges. In game, this is not the case.

Skill 1 does throw it a short distance,
Skill 2 throws the randomly a long way, but you don’t have any control over it.

Lol, i just came back to keg brawl after about 6 months. 1 guy was standing mid field and each time he grabbed one he lobbed it, with a junp, and it scored a point everytime. so, random I think not.

The. I realized this is just like cheezing bosses in dungeons, do it so often no one remebers how to do it legit. So I spent my entire time just locking him down. He didn’t remember how to even move. It was hysterical. He stands there smack he goes down, gets up -> kick. The rest of his team obviously were delendant on his abilities cause they lost their 8-0 lead.

Another game we had three “lobbers” on the opposite team. So my guild mate and i figured out how to do it, and that made an epic game of us all standing in the center and who ever picked it up got it. I believe the game is called keg brawl not keg toss:. Very disappointed because I use to really enjoy the game. Now I’m just going to walk away if I see this and try agaon later perhaps. Or offer people silver at the sart of a match if a fair game is played.

Please make skill 2 not dependant on camera angle in the z-axis! Thats all i ask.

Edit: typos due to no iphone typing skillz

Yeah, skill 2 is a camera aimed skill, and can be thrown straight into the goal if aimed correctly, it is not a cheat. They jump to try and avoid interceptions / out of habit to avoid interceptions, and some just find it easier to throw to the goal by jumping. There are a number of ways to combat it though. You can sometimes dodge jump in the way of it as it leaves their hands, although it’s quite difficult to do (i’ve not done it before, just seen it happen) I think it’s possible with just a well timed jump too, but you have to be pretty near them to intercept. Another method is to have someone on your team stand at their goal, so if they do try throw it in, they can try catch it before it reaches the goal. With a well timed ‘2’ skill (not holding a keg) you can fumble the player trying to toss it. They can’t dodge while trying to toss, so if you time it well and they don’t stun/pour some on the ice, you can knock it out, and gain possession of the keg. It’s also a good idea to try and keep on top of disabling key ‘tossers’ (:P) to refrain them from gaining kegs off your team / the floor and possible scoring with a toss. Doing this, regularly will hinder their chances at a long toss.

I can understand why this can be annoying though, if the person using the keg is particularly adept at throwing it in the goal from almost anywhere in the map, it gets frustrating. This gets even worse when their team is letting this happen by concentrating on disabling your team while they let the other player throw ’em all in, although I will admit I do find it fun to throw it in from afar.

As for the team issue, I also thought the same. I was gonna play some Keg Brawl with a mate for an hour or two, but found it difficult to get into the same game as them, never mind team. I eventually found them but then couldn’t even find out if I could switch to their team, so there is something I would like on that front. If it did get put in, It would probably have to be a matchmaking type of system, as I don’t think it would be very fair if a team of however many people, who could be using voice chat communication and are well coordinated as a team verse a publically matched team who won’t be on voice chat or know each other very well. So, yes, I would like to see this implemented, but as long as it keeps it fair on people who want to enter with randoms without being (possibly) disadvantaged.

Lastly, you should try tossing it like these guys are doing. Sure, it’s frustrating, but it’s fun once you get some practice and can score a keg-in-one. Try it out!

Risingashes.8694:

The person was in no way cheating.

He is using an ability available to all players.

It’s not hidden, it’s not an exploit, it’s not using a skill in a sneaky way. It’s straight forward and anyone can do it.

The counter to it is to get infront of the person and to have people in organised positions instead of just running around trying to punch the person with the keg.

You’re playing Keg Brawl like it’s a zerg fest. Keg Brawl is soccer.

Instead of accusing other people of cheating, how about you join in the practice mode and actually test how the skills work and how they’re supposed to be used.

Actually Anet has stated that that skill is bugged, and exploiting that bug is cheating.

So no way to report people doing it, and ANet doesn’t care to fix it.

Awesome, just awesome.

EnemyCrusher.7324:

Risingashes.8694:

The person was in no way cheating.

He is using an ability available to all players.

It’s not hidden, it’s not an exploit, it’s not using a skill in a sneaky way. It’s straight forward and anyone can do it.

The counter to it is to get infront of the person and to have people in organised positions instead of just running around trying to punch the person with the keg.

You’re playing Keg Brawl like it’s a zerg fest. Keg Brawl is soccer.

Instead of accusing other people of cheating, how about you join in the practice mode and actually test how the skills work and how they’re supposed to be used.

Actually Anet has stated that that skill is bugged, and exploiting that bug is cheating.

Unfortunately they rather like banning instead of admitting their mistake and fixing it.
And I dont even care much for the first part of it, but FIXING things takes way to long.

This ruins the whole game and no doubt gives people a reason to leave.
It also for example makes me dislike an awesome minigame like keg brawl which actually had great potential.

Another simple example are guild missions, Guild trek gets bugged way 2 often leaving your guild with nothing but a runover, and if ur unlucky a location is bugged again. Takes 1 location to bug and you cant get your merits, and its been out there for a while, not all that often, but that its even there and still not fixed is annoying.

With the lack of a good endgame in many eyes, things like minigames, wvw, pvp & guild missions could save a lot if not for bugs and glitches that stay around way 2 long. And the ballance in PVP makes that a rather bad option as autoballance kicks in at bad moments for players or even both sides, or doesnt kick in when it should have long ago.

WvW seems fun for a longer time, but lacks here and there no doubt, and at this point its just zerg, or be zerged often enough.

In the end, the game has great potential but at this point doesnt come out right, and getting a legendary through grinding or buying gold is something very few people could enjoy.