Guild Wars 2

The Deceptive Evasion trait (aka Clone on dodge) doesn’t work when you’re in a different form.

What I mean by different forms are for example:
- Ghost form in Ascalonian Catacombs path 3
- Shadow form during the encounter with the Priest of Grenth during the Cleanse of the Temple of Grenth event in Cursed shore

When you’re in these forms, the clone on dodge simply doesn’t work, you can dodge but no clone is summoned.

Confirmed, this is what’s happening on my Mesmer as well.

any news about this bug?

It’s not working in ascalon fractal as well.

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

Traits are disabled during many transformations. (But not any skill based transforms, I believe.)

Is that an intended mechanic?

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

Traits are disabled during many transformations. (But not any skill based transforms, I believe.)

Is that an intended mechanic?

And if it is, would you mind telling us the reason?

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

Traits are disabled during many transformations. (But not any skill based transforms, I believe.)

Huh?!
Do you realize that many mesmer builds rely on that specific trait?

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

Traits are disabled during many transformations. (But not any skill based transforms, I believe.)

Yeah, wait, why?? This heavily nerfs my playstyle. It’s kind of a pain to completely swap traits and weapons every time I get transformed (which happens frequently in Fractals and AC), and it’s really annoying.

If this is intended, why is it not documented anywhere and what accommodates for your lost traits?

edit: Should we assume that the plethora of bugs that have gone unfixed for professions are also working as intended as well?

Also, clearly it’s not all traits that are disabled, as I still get benefits from quite a few of them, what determines what makes the cut and what doesn’t?

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

Traits are disabled during many transformations. (But not any skill based transforms, I believe.)

For potions and tonic changes this makes sense, but not for situations like Ascalon Catacombs path three where you’re given a ghost illusion or the Battle of Ascalon fractal where you’re given a Charr illusion. At those times we still rely on our own equipment and abilities. Having traits disabled during those times is a handicap and should not be an intended result of the transformation.

I couldn’t find the thread where I thought they confirmed this as a bug, not working as intended and they work on a fix.

This was confirmed to be a Bug by Jason King here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-Deceptive-Evasion-doesn-t-work-when-transformed-Merged/first#post923552

Whether or not it’s on anyone’s list of things to fix remains unknown. Sure doesn’t seem to be a priority, and if Jeffrey isn’t even aware of the bug and its consequences, that’s not a good sign. sigh

For reference: the transformations in AC3 and ascalon fractal are only visual transformations for flair. They do not affect skills or traits or combat in any way – except for this single trait that’s suddenly gone and thus breaks a good chunk of mesmer builds.

I was pleasantly surprised to see this bug fixed with the latest patch (at least in ascalon fractal, didn’t test the others).

Thanks to whoever is responsible!