Minipet AP Still Bugged (Blocking Progress)

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Posted by: Orpheal.8263

Orpheal.8263

I want this to be solved also too, but in a way, how Anet should have solved the problem from begin on by merging the old and the new copied minipet achievements together so that players would be also able to finish the old versions by using the new unlocking mechanic, cause of anet having removed the old unlocking mechanic completely from the game and decided to go the lame route for a solution by putting just the old achievement versions into the category of retired achievements >.>

Shouldnt be really such a big problem to make out of 2 achievement sets that are exactly 100% identical just 1 merged minipet set per collection and to let the achievements give per AP Tier instead of 10 AP then 20AP, which should be just a change in the code for that achievement to exchange the 10 with a 20 in that code for the AP that the achievement should give per tier.
If that happens, and the obsolete old achievements get then removed, it will look then for the player, as if Anet merged the achievements together and no one will lose AP and the game will progress the left over achievements then just with the new mechanic of unlockign the minis for your account wardrobe…

Thats the best solution that Anet should have doen for this whole issue, but I guess, they just decided to go for the lame way cause of lack of time to go for the better solution which could have been maybe more time costing to do compared to just puttign the old versions into the retired section simply…

I want to finish the old versions too, thats basically lost AP only because of ANets bad design of those achievements, because they didn’t deliver, what they told they would – new achievements – but in fact came with warmed up coffee that were those copied identical achievements…

There wouldn’t have been that problem also, if ANet would have brought, what they told us and those achievements would have been truly NEW ones that would have required a different mechanic around the Minis to progress them or would have been related ti Minis in a completely different way.

Anet simply could have chosen also just to change the progress mechanic of the initial miniature achievements from put into account chest simply into have into your inventory to let the initial old min achievements progress by havign the minis simply in your inventory and then for the new version by unlocking them for your account wardrobe.

Sometimes I really can’t understand some decisions of ANet regardign their game designs.
This here, is absolutely one of them.

Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside

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Posted by: John Lightning.6293

John Lightning.6293

Any chance of this getting fixed? Still 53/54 set one minis even though I have 54/54 unlocked on my account.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

Were any unlocked in heart of the mists?

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Posted by: Preyar.6783

Preyar.6783

Any chance of this getting fixed? Still 53/54 set one minis even though I have 54/54 unlocked on my account.

I don’t know about OP but I probably know how to fix your problem. See, the Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar was put into the game in a later state but it showed up in the set 1 collection for some reason. It upped the count to 55 minis and made for an easier achievement back then. But with the introduction of the new minipet system this was fixed so that the 55th mini, the Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar does not count towards the set achievement meaning that if you had been missing the original 54th mini and replaced it with the new 55th one you would be at 53 minis with the new system.

Wondrous Achiever \o/

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Posted by: Basket of Boxes.1976

Basket of Boxes.1976

Any chance of this getting fixed? Still 53/54 set one minis even though I have 54/54 unlocked on my account.

I don’t know about OP but I probably know how to fix your problem. See, the Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar was put into the game in a later state but it showed up in the set 1 collection for some reason. It upped the count to 55 minis and made for an easier achievement back then. But with the introduction of the new minipet system this was fixed so that the 55th mini, the Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar does not count towards the set achievement meaning that if you had been missing the original 54th mini and replaced it with the new 55th one you would be at 53 minis with the new system.

There is an issue with all 3 mini sets not just set 1 so this is not exactly a fix.

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Posted by: Preyar.6783

Preyar.6783

Any chance of this getting fixed? Still 53/54 set one minis even though I have 54/54 unlocked on my account.

I don’t know about OP but I probably know how to fix your problem. See, the Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar was put into the game in a later state but it showed up in the set 1 collection for some reason. It upped the count to 55 minis and made for an easier achievement back then. But with the introduction of the new minipet system this was fixed so that the 55th mini, the Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar does not count towards the set achievement meaning that if you had been missing the original 54th mini and replaced it with the new 55th one you would be at 53 minis with the new system.

There is an issue with all 3 mini sets not just set 1 so this is not exactly a fix.

The guy I quoted said he had bugged set 1 minis, which is why this could be helpful to him.

Wondrous Achiever \o/

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

I’m currently buying up the mini’s and will comment about any issues I have, if any. I’m also making sure that I do not bind them while in a PvP area such as HotM.

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Posted by: Tigerlily.3765

Tigerlily.3765

They cannot fix by merging the two achieves now, since many of us bought all the minis just for the new achieve who had the old one. And the new one gets minis out of the economy, which I imagine was part of the point.

As far as I know none of my minis were unlocked in hotm, but perhaps in wvw.
Only set I is bugged for me 51/54. so priest of balth wont help me

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Posted by: Q ho.3514

Q ho.3514

Same for me stuck at 53/54 .Spaming with in game bug report doesn’t seem to help either .

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Posted by: Pike The Star.5638

Pike The Star.5638

Got the same problem with “Miniature Collection – Set III” 48/49 since the wardrobe-featurepatch last year. I reported it a couple of times ingame and at the german forum with screenshots etc. I even wrote an support ticket to ANet. Nothing happend . I guess this will be never fixed. Waiting for months now…

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

I believe this bug does not happen anymore, but Anet is unable (=too lazy?) to fix the collection achievements for the people who are affected.

1st person worldwide to reach 35,000 achievement points.

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Posted by: Pike The Star.5638

Pike The Star.5638

Ok, then i want my Minis or gold back or just give me the 10 AP.

I think so too that Anet is too lazy to fix the bug…

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

I just completed sets 2 and 3 without any issue. I just checked my status with set 1 and I should get it once my buy orders are fulfilled.

Chances are that players applied their mini to the wardrobe while in Heart of the Mists or perhaps WvW. I’ve heard reports of players running into issues when doing this for the minis and other items.

The one thing that I haven’t seen is where the additional achievements are for binding them to your account. All that I see are the old achievements. Did people really get twice the AP?

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Posted by: Orpheal.8263

Orpheal.8263

Part 1:
Yes, people (me included) received AP for the old as like the new versions, so people got twice the AP

40 AP for getting all Minipets once into your Account Chest (Old Version)
40 AP for unlocking all Minipets of a Set to your Account (New Version)

And if you (like me and many others) weren’t able to get all Minis of one Set complete into your Account Chest, then you are just kittened up forever, until ANet finally fixes this mess, that they created with their unthought out and wrong game change they did, what wasn’t at all, what they announced what they would do, which was implementing NEW Achievements and not just some warmed up copy & paste old coffee crap that completely leads to the point, that Anet deletes completely the old mechanism of getting the old achievements completed in a very bad and lazy (in my view) attempt to fix the problem with just their way, that is done just easiest and quickest by putting the messed up obsolete uncompleteable old version achievements into the virtual junk bin of retired achievements

Merging Achievements is absolutely no problem at all,, because its just a matter of reprogramming the code for the Miniature Collector achievement.
See, each of these Achievements has a program code which includes info about, when the achievement has to trigger (activators) and there are numbers in that code, which tell the game, how much points this achievement has to add to your total amount of your AP counter.

The old version of the Miniature Collector Program Code has somewhere inside of its program code an indicator number, which tells the game, that you get every achievement tier of collecting x miniatures of Set y just 10 AP (z)
Mostly it was all the times like Collect roughtly 10-15 miniatures (x) of Set 1(y) to get 10 AP for that tier of the achievement (z) and repeat this multiple times, until you maxed out at rank 4 of the achievement for a total of 40 AP having gained through it by then.

All what ANet has to do now is to change some numbers in these programming codes of the NEW VERSION (god simply freaking MATH EXAMPLE) and to erase completely after that change the old version of achievements from the copy.
Why is it so simple? Because old and new version are like 99% identical with each other!!
The only 1% difference between them is inside of the programmign code the part for the achievement activator/progressor, because the new version activates its progress only on account unlocking, while the old version activates progression only on account chest implemention, which got completely removed by Anet out of the game this mechanic cause of the change of the Wardrobe getting implemented to the game.

So when ANet just doubles the amount of AP getting gained from the NEW Version and therefore completely erases the old version out of the game, then in fact hits Naet two birds with 1 stone:

1. They fix the achievements that they messed up by implementign simply exactly the same achievements again, instead of delivering to us, what they announced what they would do instead – new achievements. No need then anymore to show us the old versions under the retired achievements section

2. They would fix the unfair problem that alot of people got more AP out of the Minipet Collections, than alot of pother players, they would fix the problem, that the AP from the old versions aren’t completeable anymore and that all by just giving us 20 instead of 10 AP per completed Collection Tier, what is a simple math change in the programming code of the miniature achievement changing factor z from 10 to 20 in that code.

Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside

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Posted by: Orpheal.8263

Orpheal.8263

Part 2:

Nobody will lose anything from this.
Those people which already have gained double the AP, will gain 10 and lose again 10 AP from the removal of the old version and the addition of 10 AP to the new version, what makes it a technical merge of both versions.

But all those people, which can’t complete the old versions anymore will actually PROFIT from this achivement fix!! ANd thats the only thign that counts, which is important.
Players and by this I mean actually AP Hunters/Collectors shouldn’t suffer in this game, only because anet messes up their own achievements with unthought out changes and plain wrong changes without thinking twice about what for consequences their changes could bring to this game somewhere else!!

This is like Steve Urkel (for those that know the reference, otherwise this http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaleel_White) pressing on the the red button of one of his crazy inventions leading to that invention going to explode like a Mini Nuke destroying completely the whole room and the house of the beloved neighbors daughter, whiel the whole family is away and he survives it somehow, just to say later then his typical sentence at the moment where the family just returns….

“Ooooops, was I that eventually ????”

where everyone would just scream (YES, learn to think before you act!!!)

Thats exactly what it reminded me off, when I saw the new versions of the achievements and learned quickly after, that Anet removed the old mechanic from unlocking and progressing on the old version completely.
It basically felt like a big middle finger into the face to all Mini collectors, which simply weren’t quick/ rich enough in the game to get all the minis before of this nonsensical change to ensure, that you’d miss out on none of the AP forever.

Sadly there is still no fix to these achievements, same as sadly that there is still after 2 years no fix to all those unmakeable WvW Achievements, same as like there is still no fix until today to the hero collection achievement and the fractal skin collection.
But at least ANet recognized after xxx complain threads with the help of Gaile, that there are some bugged collection achivements at fixed quickly after at least 2 of 4 broken achievements from those which were easy to fix, while the other 2 seem to have some bigger problems causing the issues, that seemingly aren’t that easy to fix…

But in the case of the mini achievements, its just a matter of removing the old version completely out of the game, as if they would have nexer existed and then increase simply the amount of AP per tier of the new version from 10 to 20 AP per tier.
Et voila, mini achievements fixed then.

Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside

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Posted by: John Lightning.6293

John Lightning.6293

Were any unlocked in heart of the mists?

Not that I can remember.

Any chance of this getting fixed? Still 53/54 set one minis even though I have 54/54 unlocked on my account.

I don’t know about OP but I probably know how to fix your problem. See, the Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar was put into the game in a later state but it showed up in the set 1 collection for some reason. It upped the count to 55 minis and made for an easier achievement back then. But with the introduction of the new minipet system this was fixed so that the 55th mini, the Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar does not count towards the set achievement meaning that if you had been missing the original 54th mini and replaced it with the new 55th one you would be at 53 minis with the new system.

I have all 54 minis listed on the wiki unlocked on my account. I also have Risen Priest #55 unlocked. The achievement is bugged as one mini is not counting towards it which isn’t the Risen Priest