Mispronunciation of "forte"

Mispronunciation of "forte"

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Posted by: Obed.7629

Obed.7629

In the Sylvari Elementalist story, at the conclusion of “The Blossom of Youth”, in the Grove, Ioworth says that gladiatorial contests are not the Priory’s forte. He pronounces this “for-TEY”.

A musical direction for loudness in music is pronounced as he did, but if you want to indicate a strength or talent, the word is pronounced “FORT”. One syllable.

See http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/forte?s=t

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Posted by: Account.9832

Account.9832

If you’re going with the French origin, then it should be pronounced “fohrr” (and spelled “fort”).

Effectively, “forte” has become an English word, and the “correct” pronunciation is whatever pronunciation the majority of English speakers uses, which seems to be closer to the Italian pronunciation (which would match the spelling “forte”).

In fact, from the page you linked: “both the one- and two-syllable pronunciations of forte are now considered standard”.

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Posted by: avshar.1460

avshar.1460

for-tey ( ones strong point) is in common usage in American English and has been for quite a while. Their using it in that form is correct given what country the game was made in. That being said reporting a language issue at this stage when there are hundreds of much more important bugs and game stopping defects seems pretty lame.

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Posted by: Kruhljak.2705

Kruhljak.2705

I think that’s prounounced “lah-may.”

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Posted by: Obed.7629

Obed.7629

for-tey ( ones strong point) is in common usage in American English and has been for quite a while. Their using it in that form is correct given what country the game was made in. That being said reporting a language issue at this stage when there are hundreds of much more important bugs and game stopping defects seems pretty lame.

The trouble is that the more usual American pronunciation comes from people who are being pretentious and trying to use a fancy word that they can’t pronounce. And it’s lame, based on the idea that a trailing “e” in a French word is always pronounced as though it had an “accent ague” over it, which is not the case for “forte”.

When there is a common error in grammar or pronunciation, there is always a tension between descriptive and normative approaches. Over time, the descriptive wins. I am not convinced we are there yet with “FORT” vs “forTEY”. And the site I linked showed the preferred pronunciation as being the French style.

At any rate, why would a scholar speak like a wanna-be scholar? The character that mispronounces the word is in the Priory.

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Eirikr.8047

from dictionary.com: A two-syllable pronunciation [fawr-tey] is increasingly heard, especially from younger educated speakers,

It seems that the Priory are on the leading edge of the change of pronunciation.

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Illconceived Was Na.9781

  • [fawrt, fohrt or for 1, fawr-tey]
  • /f?rt, fo?rt or for 1, ?f?r?te?/

noun \?fo?rt; 2 is often ?fo?r-?t? or fo?r-?t? or ?fo?r-t?\

  1. the part of a sword or foil blade that is between the middle and the hilt and that is the strongest part of the blade
  2. one’s strong point

…[F]orte’s … “strong point” sense has no entirely satisfactory pronunciation. Usage writers have denigrated \?fo?r-?t?\ and \?fo?r-t?\ because they reflect the influence of the Italian-derived 2forte. Their recommended pronunciation \?fo?rt\, however, does not exactly reflect French either: the French would write the word le fort and would pronounce it more similar to English for. So you can take your choice, knowing that someone somewhere will dislike whichever variant you choose. All are standard, however. In British English \?fo?-?t?\ and \?fo?t\ predominate; \?fo?r-?t?\ and \fo?r-?t?\ are probably the most frequent pronunciations in American English.

Both dictionaries show the two-syllable variation as a primary for the word. The tl;dr for Merriam-Webster is: there’s no consensus; pick which ever you like.

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from dictionary.com: A two-syllable pronunciation [fawr-tey] is increasingly heard, especially from younger educated speakers,

It seems that the Priory are on the leading edge of the change of pronunciation.

Hinky dinky “Parley voo”. Ersatz French rules!

It’s the new old thing.

EDIT.
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the above lines are from “Mademoiselle from Armentieres”, a song popular with American troops in WW-I, in 1918.

“Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres,
She hasn’t been kissed in forty years,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.”

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