Guild Wars 2

I was looking forward to getting the “Masterful Achiever” title, but found that, once I’d reached 19,950 points, I no longer got 10 points a day for completing three or more dailies. I managed to get to 20,000 by doing oddments like map completion, a jumping puzzle, Agent of Entropy, etc, but I’m now stuck at 20,002… doing the dailies today didn’t add to that.

You may have reached the cap for dailies – it’s 15,000 combined for dailies and the old monthlies.

Thanks, I wasn’t aware of that. Looks as if I won’t be bothering with dailies any longer, then. It makes me wonder how people get to the 25,000 total for the “Illustrious Achiever” title – let alone 60,000 for “Uncontrollable Achiever”…

By completing every Achievement offered. The higher achievement players are over 30,000 (I think max is around 33,000) right now.

It will be some time before anyone gets to 60,000 but the Devs hope this will be a long-running game. =)

Good luck.

Well, GW1 is still running, so we should be safe here for many years yet.

It seems a bit unreal to not be doing the daily achievements for my main account today, and to have more time for other stuff… it’s lucky I’ve got a second account, to keep things going. 18,495 points currently, I’d better stay alert for when that total stops going up. I don’t think I’m going to start doing fractals, PvP, or crafting, however, and only jumping puzzles when strictly necessary.

It seems strange that the game encourages one to do the dailies as part of one’s routine for about four years, and then suddenly abandons one. Weren’t the dailies devised as a way of encouraging people to play regularly…?

There are still rewards for doing the Daily. I’ve rarely only done 3 out of the 12. Gathering affords plenty of mats for little time. Often, an easy 2 Gold for 5 or 10 minutes time.

One never knows, the Devs may raise the cap, or remove it…some day.

Makes me wonder how people have 15k from dailies and only 5k from actually achieving something in this game. Daily AP should be removed entirely.

Malediktus.3740:

Makes me wonder how people have 15k from dailies and only 5k from actually achieving something in this game. Daily AP should be removed entirely.

Give me a break, lots of points made while just playing. Once the cap is reached, it just takes longer to reach the various levels. Daily CAP should be raised to 25,000 or even 30,000.

Malediktus.3740:

Makes me wonder how people have 15k from dailies and only 5k from actually achieving something in this game. Daily AP should be removed entirely.

I wouldn’t call killing 1000 undead “achieving something” and similarly 1000 kills with a GS or staff happens while maining any of several profs. But those also offer AP. Similarly, we get AP for completing the LS, which most of us (PvErs) would do anyhow. In my opinion, dailies aren’t significantly worse or better.

I think one of the issues at the moment for those who are pro-cap, anti-cap, and anti-any AP from daily is that there just aren’t that many new sources of AP. Of the ~33k points available:

• 15k are from dailies
• 15k were avail prior to HoT, roughly +5k/year. This includes WvW, WvW seasons, and PvP.
• HoT added just over 2k, including LS3, current events, etc. This includes points for Capricorn (PvP) and Raids.
• Around 1.5k are mixed, i.e. BL collections include points from before, during, and after HoT.

In other words, we used to get around 5,000 new achievement points/year and now we get less than half that (maybe 40%).

Something I’ve seen suggested before, and I think is a good compromise between the pro-cap and and anti-cap camps, is an annual increase in the cap that is somewhat lower than what can be achieved by completing 365 days’ worth of dailies. For example, an annual cap increase of 2.5k would equate to only needing to complete dailies 5 days a week to reach the cap within a year.

This would allow dailies to continue to provide a means of progressing in AP, but also doesn’t bring the treadmill effect some had where they felt compelled to complete dailies every single day just to keep pace.

Anet should make more permanent achievements and make existing ones more fairly rewarded (AP wise). 1-5 AP for a time or gold consuming achievement should never happen if 5min of dailies yield 10 AP.

Custer.6217:

Thanks, I wasn’t aware of that. Looks as if I won’t be bothering with dailies any longer, then.

Well you still get 2 gold from doing them. Gold is nice.

Malediktus.3740:

Daily AP should be removed entirely.

Are you kidding me?

Malediktus.3740:

Daily AP should be removed entirely.

Seabreeze.8437:

Are you kidding me?

Malediktus is quite serious about removing the AP from dailies and replacing it with more AP for things that require more effort, more skill, and/or more active participation.

I disagree because I think ANet’s intent has been to provide a base amount of AP for people playing the game as they like (more or less). It has also worked in encouraging people out of their comfort zones and moving around the maps. For those with less than 15k, it also encourages (i.e. bribes) folks to login more often.

On the other hand, the game did function well when we got fewer AP for a greater number of daily tasks and more of the AP from monthly tasks (even if many were easy to get within 24-72 hours after the month began).

tl;dr I might disagree with Malediktus about removing daily AP, but it’s definitely not a crazy idea.

Getting rid of the leaderboard would be a better solution.

Blude.6812:

Getting rid of the leaderboard would be a better solution.

I’ve never understood why there is a leaderboard, when ANet is otherwise so careful to avoid competition in PvE (with the exception of things like “adventures” & “activities”, which are theoretically competitive and arguably not really 100% PvE).

the cap its just a punish if you play daily and you are a veteran suporting since day one

Lykaon.7695:

the cap its just a punish if you play daily and you are a veteran suporting since day one

TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lykaon.7695:

the cap its just a punish if you play daily and you are a veteran suporting since day one

It does not punish you for anything.
If anything daily AP punish you for doing many of the more difficult/time consuming/expensive achievements because the effort vs reward is completly out of whack.
It is such a joke that getting legendary division in PvP is only worth half a daily. Or all those collections which only give 3 AP. Or getting 5 legendary items is only worth 25 points There are a lot of examples.

Custer.6217:

Thanks, I wasn’t aware of that. Looks as if I won’t be bothering with dailies any longer, then. It makes me wonder how people get to the 25,000 total for the “Illustrious Achiever” title – let alone 60,000 for “Uncontrollable Achiever”…

It makes me wonder how you only received ~4k AP in the time it took to max your dailies when AP is so easy to get at that level.

Custer.6217:

Thanks, I wasn’t aware of that. Looks as if I won’t be bothering with dailies any longer, then.

If you accidentally do three dailies on any one day, you can mail the 2g to my account please.

Malediktus.3740:

Makes me wonder how people have 15k from dailies and only 5k from actually achieving something in this game. Daily AP should be removed entirely.

Nah. If it can’t be attained anymore, like all those previous festivals, they should be deleted and removed from AP totals.

Daily AP is the real show of dedication to the game.

Rauderi.8706:

Malediktus.3740:

Makes me wonder how people have 15k from dailies and only 5k from actually achieving something in this game. Daily AP should be removed entirely.

Nah. If it can’t be attained anymore, like all those previous festivals, they should be deleted and removed from AP totals.

Daily AP is the real show of dedication to the game.

they are achievement points not dedication points or “login and play for 5-10min per day points”

Malediktus.3740:

Rauderi.8706:

Malediktus.3740:

Makes me wonder how people have 15k from dailies and only 5k from actually achieving something in this game. Daily AP should be removed entirely.

Nah. If it can’t be attained anymore, like all those previous festivals, they should be deleted and removed from AP totals.

Daily AP is the real show of dedication to the game.

they are achievement points not dedication points or “login and play for 5-10min per day points”

I wouldn’t get too invested in the choice of word; ANet’s never been consistent about naming things. Some official JPs require little jumping and aren’t as puzzling compared to some Vistas, for example.

In a practical sense, AP measures dedication in this game; we get far more points for participation than we do for anything that requires achieving something substantial.

Malediktus.3740:

Rauderi.8706:

Malediktus.3740:

Makes me wonder how people have 15k from dailies and only 5k from actually achieving something in this game. Daily AP should be removed entirely.

Nah. If it can’t be attained anymore, like all those previous festivals, they should be deleted and removed from AP totals.

Daily AP is the real show of dedication to the game.

they are achievement points not dedication points or “login and play for 5-10min per day points”

If we wanted to be honest about the name, they should be Ego Points. A far more apt description of how they’re used anyway. Or possibly Oppression Points.