So THAT’s what’s causing those weird party bugs. I’ve had a good share of those last week, and I had one party that I was pretty much forced to leave because we couldn’t start the instance with half of us not being able to see the party UI.
I’m having a terrible time with this as well. I simply don’t open dungeon instances, ever, because of it. I can’t, because it will be bugged up the back…
It’s been this way for at least 2 months now, although it’s gotten worse.
I was in CoE today and wanted to leave the party quick to get some omnom bars from my bank. I ended up not leaving the instance. Unfortunately, we weren’t able to make a 6man party, because that would have been hilarious.
Also, bugs where you’re able to respawn in combat (not such a bad one to be honest).
I basically have to leave my party every single time before going into a dungeon because I never get the prompter.
It’s getting annoying…
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
It’s even more annoying when you look at what’s breaking your game. If the content introduced was worth running I would be slightly less angry at the new bugs but I get worse party bugs all for a 10 minutes dungeon and an “exploration” mode with one room and one really dumb boss fight? Was it worth it? Is it really worth continuing to introduce this kind of bugs for the sake of truly pathetic content?
How about you fix fractals? open lvl 50+ fotm ? introduce new fractals ? or a new challenging instance ?
Or just keeping the promise of revamping one dungeon per month you made when you “revamped” AC?
Nah, they should just fix a tactic players used in the least fun and most pointless fractal by adding additional invisible walls. Oh, and while they’re at it, they should suck at it and make it so you can still do it if you have a tiny bit of imagination…
The only real thing that makes me happy about their dredge fractal fix is that it probably took some guy a substantial amount of time to implement, not to mention the fact it had to go through board meetings and the entire bureaucratic swamp that is Anet, and it and it took me less than 5 minutes to find a way around it.
Could you do us a favor and work on actually improving your game instead of doing pointless updates that fix absolutely nothing.
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
I don’t think it is only an eu on na server issue as everyone I play with has had issues with it and most of them are na only. But…yeah it’s definitely getting worse.
I will refresh this as long as it takes for the dev to hear us. I’m getting sick of being the reason why people who group with me have to waste their time doing voodoo like leaving/joining party again, sometimes it doesn’t work so they guest, sometimes it doesn’t work so they exit the game and fully relog.. all because I’m in their party.
How about you fix that kitten anet.
The way I deal with it is as follows:
Don’t start parties or instances, ever. I was showing a friend some glitches in Arah, and I had to open, and he couldn’t see me on the map.
If you’re invited to a party, and people complain about party being bugged, you leave the party, and let him leave too. Let the other person rejoin first, and then join yourself, this usually fixes the problem for that person (might not for you).
Leave and rejoin your party every time before you start an instance. This will usually make sure you get the prompter, if not, well, you’re screwed.
If you get the invisible bug where you can’t see anyone, just don’t even try doing dungeons, it’ll be such a clusterkitten, it’s not worth it.
This is kitten ing me off though. I have to jump through hoops, just to be able to even be in a party, and in the mean time, Anet is just ignoring us to death.
I just wish you could play both on EU and NA servers at the same time. There is absolutely no reason not to. I am EU, but have a lot of NA friends that I like to play with from back in GW1. At the same time, there are a lot of EU friends whom I can never play with anymore because I can’t go on EU servers… Which is a real shame..
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Since Nikaido hasn’t bumped this yet, I will just do it.
Fix this bullkitten, or at least give us a reply.
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Could we at least have someone say “Yes, we know there are a lot of party bugs, and we’re working on finding out why and how to fix it.” Because you know what’s even more frustrating than these party bugs? The fact that as soon as someone posts a bug thread about how his/her personal story bugged or some random event stopped working, the first reply will be a dev. When people post actually game-breaking bugs, it get’s ignored to death, like now.
Except of course, it’s prone to being exploited. Well, in that case let me tell you this: this bug is possible to be exploited. We haven’t found out how yet, but as of now I’ve had 8 occasions where one or more party members were able to respawn in combat because of this bug. You know what, I’ve got an idea. I’ll just put my time into figuring out EXACTLY how to replicate that bug every time we go into a dungeon or a fractal, and I’ll post on here how we do it. Maybe, just maybe, then you’ll give us a shred of your attention, because it seems to me you only care about bugs when they’re either exploitable or when it involves worthless parts of your game like personal story and DE’s.
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
I just sent a friend gold for 1600 gems so he can come to EU servers to play with us.#
Yeah, I’d love to play with some of my old EU buddies, but that would mean I couldn’t play with my old NA buddies anymore… Shouldn’t have made so many friends in GW1 I guess?
To be honest they should just make cross-nation guesting and playing possible. It’s ridiculous that it isn’t to begin with. Not to mention the potentially great competition this would give in WvW (although I don’t WvW).
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Could we at least have someone say “Yes, we know there are a lot of party bugs, and we’re working on finding out why and how to fix it.” Because you know what’s even more frustrating than these party bugs? The fact that as soon as someone posts a bug thread about how his/her personal story bugged or some random event stopped working, the first reply will be a dev. When people post actually game-breaking bugs, it get’s ignored to death, like now.
Except of course, it’s prone to being exploited. Well, in that case let me tell you this: this bug is possible to be exploited. We haven’t found out how yet, but as of now I’ve had 8 occasions where one or more party members were able to respawn in combat because of this bug. You know what, I’ve got an idea. I’ll just put my time into figuring out EXACTLY how to replicate that bug every time we go into a dungeon or a fractal, and I’ll post on here how we do it. Maybe, just maybe, then you’ll give us a shred of your attention, because it seems to me you only care about bugs when they’re either exploitable or when it involves worthless parts of your game like personal story and DE’s.
Could we at least have someone say “Yes, we know there are a lot of party bugs, and we’re working on finding out why and how to fix it.” Because you know what’s even more frustrating than these party bugs? The fact that as soon as someone posts a bug thread about how his/her personal story bugged or some random event stopped working, the first reply will be a dev. When people post actually game-breaking bugs, it get’s ignored to death, like now.
Exactly, this ^.
So frustrating to see. The dev care a lot about some of the most irrelevant parts of the game and just completely ignores anything related to dungeons.
Oh yes. They are crazy fast to reply if someone praises the game, and they are very fast to post infos about their livestreams and other stuff.
Their communication gets worse and worse with every day. I mean sure, the bug is totally game breaking and it’s absolutely frustrating. But I could cope with it better if there’d be a dev response telling me "Hey, we’re working on it. Just wait a little bit more and we’ll fix it.
So thats what causing the greyed out names in party… because im EU, playing on USA servers? Party bug isnt the only bug, sometimes my guildies cant see me in the guild roster also, but can see me talk in guild chat. Is that related to the party bugs? Really hope you can fix this bug because its really annoying. Indeed, leaving the party and remaking it usually helps but not always and in wvw if someone gets added to the party after me, i cant see them in party. I can see them talk in party chat but if they are next to me their name color isnt party-blue and i cant see their dot on the map. I thought it was just me, good to see im not the only one. I hope at least a dev can reply to ensure us its looked into.
Nikaido, i have to disagree with you on " The fact is that we are Second Class citizen and treated like kitten" Maybe you have a different experience here but to me its different. We have a bunch EU people on the server and all i get in wvw is that they are really happy with EU players. It makes a difference for a bigger zerg and capturing objects, since nighttime (our daytime) is downtime, so there are less people in wvw. For pve the same. I never experienced anything like you mentioned. As far as the dev’s go and priority for this bug… i get the fact it doesn’t have a high priority for them. Although its annoying for us, for them its a minor bug. Exploits and broken mechanics have a high priority since it affects all players. I wouldnt want a free transfer to EU servers since i chose to play USA to play with a friend. All i want to hear from the dev’s is that they are aware of the bug. It doesnt affect my experience in the game, i have awesome guildies and its no problem to remake a team. Its an annoying bug but again, its a minor bug for the dev’s and has low priority. Awareness is all we can ask and hope it gets fixed soon
Grz Krengy
send a report to the dev’s. Got a responds within a few hours…. “Thank you for bringing this to our attention! The Development Team is aware of this issue at this time and they are currently working on addressing it” And dont get me wrong, its annoying as hell but getting all worked about it on the form doesnt speed up a fix.
So, you’re saying posting on this forum isn’t enough? I thought this forum was dedicated specifically for addressing bug issues. If they don’t read these posts, then what is the purpose of having this forum?
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Do I understand you correct? You are saying that there are US servers hosting instances for European parties? Is this the cause of horrible lags in WvW as well? Sometimes WvW runs smooth, but during big zerg vs zerg fights it starts to lag as hell, it’s pretty funny tho when you see people shooting around missing everyskill just counting on their best luck
Being an European on US server is pain in the backside, dungeons cant be done, partys bug out and its really fun to know im the reason, because i live on wrong continent.
Mutta vitunko väliä ku ketään ei kiinnosta!!!!
This bug is game braking for me, when i get kicked from dungeon party because of this bug 5 times in a row, im ready to throw whole game out from backdoor.
God kitten it Nikaido, now I’m reading all that text in your voice… Actually that’s pretty funny… I’m gonna keep doing that.
Just wanted to add that tonight was the first night in a long time I partied up with my guildies without having to deal with party bugs. No idea why and how, but just wanted to throw that out there.
Now just to find out how that rez bug works… It’s a tough one to figure out…
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Tried to do HotW with Nikaido and some other guildies yesterday, one of us started the party (can’t remember if it was him or me), and the party was bugged for some of our team members.
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Since this dev post stated that they actually do read and care about our bug reports (lol), but they are often faced with the issue that our bug reports are not detailed enough, I’ll go ahead and make a detailed post about what is wrong with EU players on NA servers and what causes the bugs. Unfortunately, I have not yet been able to trace down and replicate the “resurrect while in combat” bug and in fact, I haven’t seen it in a couple of weeks. All I know that it only occurs if a EU player opens an instance. If I could reproduce this, I’m pretty sure I’d have their attention.. Especially since I plan on sharing this detailed information with any and every EU player I know on the NA server and post it on youtube with narrated commentary so they can readily abuse it… But that’s not my point…
On to the bugs.
Note that when I talk about a EU player, I mean a player that lives in the EU, but plays on an NA server.
There are several things that cause bugged parties:
The problem is, I don’t have a lot of chances to test this, because most of my NA buddies don’t care and have better things to do than letting me invite/kick them over and over.
A EU player starts a party: this usually results in the first party member that gets invited being able too see only the EU player, and not the other players. Sometimes, all the other party members will see a full party, sometimes they won’t and will also only see the EU player. I think this is linked to the process of whether or not the party leader invites the next person or the next person self invites on the party leader or on another person in the party.
A NA player invites a EU player and the EU player will be unable to see any additional members added to the party: this is a pretty common one. Fortunately, this one is easily fixed by leaving/rejoining, but is still annoying nonetheless.
A EU players opens an instance: several things can happen here. In some occasions other EU players will get the prompter and be able to join the instance. NA players will not. This bug occurs even when the party appears to be not bugged. On other occasions, everyone will get the prompter, but no one will be able to enter. You’ll just click the “join party in jadda jadda” and the prompter will disappear, and you won’t get in. When this bug occurs, no one will be able to enter, not even other EU players in the party. The only way to fix this bug is to completely disband the party and the EU player has to change characters. I hope you can see why this is a particularly annoying one.
An NA player opens the instance: this is usually the safest method to go by, but even then, there are bugs. Sometimes, NA players will get the prompter, but EU players will not. This bug is usually fixed by simply leaving and rejoining. This bug can sometimes be persistent. As in, you get the bug, leave and rejoin, and after you’re done with the dungeon and someone opens the next path, you’ll need to leave/rejoin again. Sometimes, a EU player will get the prompter but after selecting ‘join party’, will not be transported into the instance. When this happens, NA players will be able to join the instance. This bug can sometimes be helped by leave/rejoin, but sometimes you need to character select or completely restart your client. And sometimes, even that doesn’t help, but I’ve only seen that happen once.
Leaving your party will not remove you from the instance: this bug only happens when an EU player starts the instance. What will happen is that you leave your party, but remain in the instance. Everyone will be able to see you and you will appear orange/green depending on whether or not you’re a guildy to them. Your party will be able to add new members to the party, these members WILL get a prompter to join the instance, HOWEVER, when accepting the ‘join’ button, they will get a message saying that the instance is full (a similar message you get when you get moved to an overflow). This is particularly unfortunate, because I really looked forward to doing 10man Arah/CoE runs. This bug is not limited to EU players though. We’ve wanted to completely disband a party once, and everyone in the party remained in the instance. The instance was created by an EU player though.
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Certain players will be able to resurrect while the rest of the party is in combat: I’ve seen this happen only a few times. This bug happens when the instance is created by a EU player and when other players are not able to see the profession of their EU party members. They will just see their account name and a level 0, without a profession next to their name. I’ve seen this bug being limited to certain party members only, and I’ve seen this bug enabling everyone in the party to respawn in combat. The one time everyone in my party was able to respawn, there was an extra bug related to our party that I have since never witnessed again: whenever anyone went further than 1200 range from each other, their party icon went black. This caused pretty great confusion, since it was a PUG fractal 48 that I did together with a guild member and everyone though everyone was leaving the entire time. Although, once we figured out what was wrong, we happily abused the respawning in combat thingy.
Players not being able to see what profession an EU player is: this bug is very minor, and doesn’t bother me, but this is usually the prelude to the agony of dealing with party bugs. Very often (I’m not sure if it’s always the case, but it could be), when the party is bugged, NA players that hoover over an EU players party icon will only see “level 0”, their account name and no profession. This is the precursor bug to all other bugs I think, although I have no proof yet.
If Nikaido has any more information or if I come up with more, I will post it on here. For now, this is all I know.
I hope this information helped you out on tracking down what this bug is/how it’s created. In the mean time, I’m going to keep trying to figure out how to break your game in order to motivate you to take this issue seriously.
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
I just realized it’s really hard for Anet employees to reproduce these bugs, since they only originate from cross-server play.
Maybe -in case you will even bother with this bug-, you could try to transfer to an EU server and see if the problems exist there as well. Or if you have EU based employees, have them play on an NA server, and see if they encounter similar issues.
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Legion of Doom [LOD] – Death ’n Taxes [DnT]
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
The bug came back today and it’s just as bad as it was on the day where no one could join any sort of dungeon instance whatsoever. For god’s sake cut on the fluff living story bull and fix this game breaking bug that completely blocks some of us from doing dungeons.
- “No tears, please. It’s a waste of good suffering.”
just spent 30 mins trying to party up to run cof p1. It was an epic fail. could not get into the dungeon instance half the time and the other half my party members could not. On top of this the ui bugged and i could not see my party members on it sometimes and they would also disappear from the minimap aswell. Anet fix this fast or your gonna lose gamers cuz your games unplayable in dungeons.
Etheeria (The mad bomber). If you don’t have shellshock your not doing it right.
