Personal Fractal Reward shouldnt affect Open

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Posted by: icy.9250

icy.9250

Hi,
I’d like to report a bug I’ve only just noticed. I’ve completed almost every fractal 1-50, except for fractal 49.

I cannot open fractal 49 (solo party, just me) because game says my “Personal Fractal Level” is 46. I’ve closed and re-opened the game; same thing.

icy`

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Posted by: Andraus.3874

Andraus.3874

Your personal reward level/ fractal level has been lower the whole time. You have done 50 but your reward level was lower.

Example: reward level is 45, you run a 50, your reward level is now 46, you can now open 46, but you also got the achievement for 50 for completing it.

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Posted by: icy.9250

icy.9250

I see what you’re saying, but now I’m thinking the system is flawed. Firstly, “rewards” shouldn’t affect what you’ve accomplished and whether you can start a new one. Are rewards and accomplishments not two separate metrics?

Let’s imagine the worst case, where someone managed to complete fractals 1-100 in reverse order, with initial Personal Reward (P.R.) level 1:

Frac#  P.R.         new P.R.
100      1     +1   2
99        2     +1   3
98        3     +1   4
97        4     +1   5


52      49     +1  50
51      50    +1   51
50      51    +0   51
49      51    +0   51
.…
1        51      +0    51

So after all that, with everything completed, the reward level is only 51. Now this person can’t even open fractal 52 ;P

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Posted by: Moa Lith.8140

Moa Lith.8140

You gain a personal reward level when you complete a Fractal at your personal reward level or above (in your case, it would be at level 46 or above).

If you completed level(s) below your personal reward level in order to complete the list, you did not gain a personal reward level, but it did mark the Fractal as completed.

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Posted by: Felahr.9830

Felahr.9830

The system isnt flawed. Dont do 1-100 in reverse order.

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Posted by: Aidan Savage.2078

Aidan Savage.2078

Hi,
I’d like to report a bug I’ve only just noticed. I’ve completed almost every fractal 1-50, except for fractal 49.

I cannot open fractal 49 (solo party, just me) because game says my “Personal Fractal Level” is 46. I’ve closed and re-opened the game; same thing.

icy`

PR does not increase if you do a fractal who’s difficulty scale is NOT the same or higher than your PR. Additionally, your PR will only increase by 1 regardless of how much higher the fractal scale is. So, if your PR is only 46, then that means you did 4 fractals (5 if oyu include the scale 49 you didnt do) when they were below your CURRENT PR. So… NAB.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

I’m thinking the system is flawed.

The system isn’t designed as you expected; that makes it “surprising” not “flawed”.

Firstly, “rewards” shouldn’t affect what you’ve accomplished and whether you can start a new one. Are rewards and accomplishments not two separate metrics?

Accomplishments measure what you’ve completed. Rewards don’t measure anything; they are what you earn and therefore tied to different accomplishments:

  • Methodically improving your personal level
  • Improving your fractal mastery

Let’s imagine the worst case, where someone managed to complete fractals 1-100 in reverse order, with initial Personal Reward (P.R.) level 1:

So after all that, with everything completed, the reward level is only 51. Now this person can’t even open fractal 52

I guess there’s a third accomplishment then: learning the mechanics.

Similarly, we can’t earn rewards for finishing any of the stories (personal, LS2 a or b, HoT story) in reverse order; wed end up with credit for just the last.

John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”

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Posted by: icy.9250

icy.9250

If I’ve completed, say, Fractal 50, I think I should be able to open any of 1-50, even if my personal reward level is awful.

[Edit] I changed topic from “Personal Fractal Reward incorrect” to “Personal Fractal Reward shouldnt affect Open” , as I think that’s my real issue.

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Posted by: Andraus.3874

Andraus.3874

If I’ve completed, say, Fractal 50, I think I should be able to open any of 1-50, even if my personal reward level is awful.

[Edit] I changed topic from “Personal Fractal Reward incorrect” to “Personal Fractal Reward shouldnt affect Open” , as I think that’s my real issue.

It makes more sense to incentivize progressing from level 1 and up rather than backward or skipping around.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

If I’ve completed, say, Fractal 50, I think I should be able to open any of 1-50, even if my personal reward level is awful.

[Edit] I changed topic from “Personal Fractal Reward incorrect” to “Personal Fractal Reward shouldnt affect Open” , as I think that’s my real issue.

Thanks for changing the topic title — I wish more people would do that (as they learn more about the issue).

Still, this makes it a suggestion and not a bug report: the system works as designed and you’d like to see a different design.

(Personally, I agree with others that the current system makes more sense to me, else folks would just ‘buy’ runs to L50 to unlock it and skip the progression.)

John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”

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Posted by: Aidan Savage.2078

Aidan Savage.2078

If I’ve completed, say, Fractal 50, I think I should be able to open any of 1-50, even if my personal reward level is awful.

[Edit] I changed topic from “Personal Fractal Reward incorrect” to “Personal Fractal Reward shouldnt affect Open” , as I think that’s my real issue.

No, no you shouldnt. Fractals are made for progression, not for carrying people through who dont have the AR nor reward level to really benefit.