Guild Wars 2

So I was doing an invasion on my warrior with axe/warhorn and hammer, full PTV armour and trinkets with berserk weapons, very tanky build not dealing much damage. Lots of CC and condition removal. With this I could very easily get credit on veterans and champions even if a lot of people showed up and the things didn’t last long.

For the next one I switched to longbow and rifle, swapped out all my trinkets for berserk, and rebuilt for critical hits/dmg with offensive buffs and debuffs instead of stunbreaks and stability. My AOE is somewhat reduced with the lack of cleave, so I expected less credit on smaller mobs, but my single target damage output was far higher.

Yet now my chances of getting credit on kills has been absolutely gutted. I know it’s not just DR on loot, because suddenly I’m missing out on boxes from most champions as well, even though I’m doing more damage to them and usually for longer (no need to withdraw and heal, nor deal with trash mobs during the fight, nor spend as much time approaching to attack). It’s not like I’m in some obscure place they can’t reach either (not that I’ve ever known that to matter, if you did overcome the health regen) just out in the open firing from 900-1200 range with the bow and rifle.

At first I tried moving to a less populated area – even though I’d got credit with the last build in much much more crowded fights – but even then, I could be one of the first to attack something, keep dealing almost uninterrupted damage to it until it died, and get maybe a bit of karma on the side of my screen if I was lucky.

Whatever is causing this seriously needs to go away forever.

UPDATE: so I gave my ranged build another shot in a new invasion, doing precisely the same thing, and found myself in even bigger groups of people but able to tag just as easily as my hammer had been. Note that in none of these cases was I in a party, merely amongst other players, so nobody else was affecting my tagging but me.

I assume it’s still not the result of any DR, since the bags are supposed to drop every time AFAIK. Except now I’m not sure what the hell is causing it. I’ve had the same thing on my guardian before too, but I just put it down to insufficient damage at the time.

Funny, I’ve also noticed (on my warrior, by chance) that sometimes, even after doing massive damage to champions during the invasion events with rifle and barely none to the vets and normal ones, those champs drop no loot. I think they still give the exp, but definetly no loot drop. Even getting gold star on the event right after, pointing out something is wrong.
The DR on champs is reflected on the quality of the box dropped, but it should always drop at least a white champ box. Weirdly, it’s not dropping anything at all.
I’ve read people complaining about champ tagging credit on champ farming zergs, but in this case I’m under the impression I get credit (and therefore exp) but the loot drop goes somehow missing.

With the guardian it was largely in farming zergs that it began to happen, but I would actually have the same issue: the thing lived for some time with scaling, and I was dealing a LOT of damage (full berserk/scholar/unscathed contender) but while I’d get the experience and sometimes karma, loot-wise I got nothing.

Also, do the champion bags scale just with contribution? I thought it was their level, too. I’ve killed champs singlehandedly before and got junky blue bags if not in a high zone.

Did alle events on my warrior that wears mainly knights stuff with longbow, and had no problems at all, as long as the champs was not already dead when i shoot my first arrow.

LameFox.6349:

Also, do the champion bags scale just with contribution? I thought it was their level, too. I’ve killed champs singlehandedly before and got junky blue bags if not in a high zone.

The lowest level of the bag is related to the level of the zone, but the chances of getting the different qualities are, on my experience, DR related.
For example, killing the Frozen Maw chaman, you have a good chance of getting a white box (as the zone is very low level), but you can as well get an orange one. Random.
But when farming champs of the same kind on the invasion events, say the aetherblade ones, you have a way higher chance to get yellow, then even green boxes as you keep killing them, while it’s almost sure you get an orange one after a while without killing any of the kind. It’s not exactly DR, as it doesn’t go right down and permanently, but streaks of the same kind of champ seem to rise the chances of them dropping boxes of lower and lower quality.
The damage contribution has no part in it, despite of what people seem to think: a few hundreds of damage is enough to get you an orange box on the first champ, while doing thousands on the same one doesn’t save you from getting a green one after a lot of them killed on the same event.
After killing some hundreds, you clearly see a pattern there.

Getting the same thing on my Guardian with Scepter and torch good damage and hits and blue and green bags only, wtf is going on?

Funnily when i was 60 ish doing the exact same events with the exact same weapons i was getting gold bags drop every time, now i’m 80 Greens and blues, really weird bugs..

Dante.1508:

Getting the same thing on my Guardian with Scepter and torch good damage and hits and blue and green bags only, wtf is going on?

Funnily when i was 60 ish doing the exact same events with the exact same weapons i was getting gold bags drop every time, now i’m 80 Greens and blues, really weird bugs..

After the first couple of days of crazy drops, and once the word spread and got people caught on farming, they nerfed the drop.
The problem is not as much what kind of box you get (read my explanatory theory right above), as the fact that seems that sometimes getting credit for champ killing does not drop ANY loot at all, that would be a bug indeed.

AeroJavi.1687:

Dante.1508:

Getting the same thing on my Guardian with Scepter and torch good damage and hits and blue and green bags only, wtf is going on?

Funnily when i was 60 ish doing the exact same events with the exact same weapons i was getting gold bags drop every time, now i’m 80 Greens and blues, really weird bugs..

After the first couple of days of crazy drops, and once the word spread and got people caught on farming, they nerfed the drop.
The problem is not as much what kind of box you get (read my explanatory theory right above), as the fact that seems that sometimes getting credit for champ killing does not drop ANY loot at all, that would be a bug indeed.

This was actually after the supposed loot nerf, i was still getting gold boxes at 60ish now its Blue and greens at 80.