Shatterer no loot with Gold event credit

Shatterer no loot with Gold event credit

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Posted by: DougTheSlug.3920

DougTheSlug.3920

I don’t hit shatterer that often, but the last few times I’ve done it, I’ve not gotten neither of the daily chests…

Lvl80, doing countless thousands of dmg

Gold credit for the event, from start to finish.

No Daily chest above minimap
No Daily Dragon Chest

I’ve submitted a number of bug reports on this, with screenshots showing a chat window full of dmg and gold credit, but no daily chests.

What’s going on?

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Posted by: Geekfox.4267

Geekfox.4267

Daily chest is once per daily.

Chest on the ground is once per character per daily.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

Both chest can also go missing if the character doesn’t do any other event.

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Posted by: DougTheSlug.3920

DougTheSlug.3920

Daily chest is once per daily.

Chest on the ground is once per character per daily.

Yes, I’m well aware that the chests are daily as I do refer to both of those chests as daily chests…
I don’t do shatterer that often (since it’s been pushed forward an hour by DST), maybe once a week?

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DougTheSlug.3920

Both chest can also go missing if the character doesn’t do any other event.

That’s a pretty nasty bug there if that’s the truth… Strange that I don’t see any mentions of bugs on the shatterer wiki page?

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

Both chest can also go missing if the character doesn’t do any other event.

That’s a pretty nasty bug there if that’s the truth… Strange that I don’t see any mentions of bugs on the shatterer wiki page?

It’s not a bug and it’s not directly related to the Shatterererererer. It’s an aspect of Diminishing Returns (which is on the wiki): if you keep doing the same event repeatedly, without moving around, you end up losing out on the event’s karma, xp, and bonus rewards (including the ‘bouncy’ chest on your screen & the ground chest).

This is easy to see at Rhendak’s tomb: takes up to 15 minutes per spawn (waiting + fight + inventory) and sometimes people get only two events in a row before getting nothing (other times, I’ve gone as many as 14 days in a row without DR). Change characters or leave the map (even to WvW) for ‘enough’ time, and you can return. (How much is ‘enough’ and how long it resets for is not well understood.)

This could be what’s affecting the OP from getting loot from Shatterer, but doesn’t sound likely from their description, unless they also did the event several times within the same 24 hours (that would accelerate DR, near as I can tell from my limited testing). The easy way to test this would be for the OP to swap toons for that event or have that toon head for something else for ~1 hour of playing time (not afk or offline).

If it’s not DR, I’m not sure what it is nor whether Customer Service could help. Worth filing an in-game /bug report and filing a Support ticket, imo.

tl;dr could be Diminishing Returns (and that can be tested); if it’s not, it’s probably going to be tricky to figure out.

Good luck and please let us know what (if anything) you discover, to better help the next person.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

Both chest can also go missing if the character doesn’t do any other event.

That’s a pretty nasty bug there if that’s the truth… Strange that I don’t see any mentions of bugs on the shatterer wiki page?

It’s not a bug and it’s not directly related to the Shatterererererer. It’s an aspect of Diminishing Returns (which is on the wiki): if you keep doing the same event repeatedly, without moving around, you end up losing out on the event’s karma, xp, and bonus rewards (including the ‘bouncy’ chest on your screen & the ground chest).

Also very easy to see in Silverwastes while doing pack bull escort. Although it is also easy to avoid there if you just tag one of the fort events.

This is easy to see at Rhendak’s tomb: takes up to 15 minutes per spawn (waiting + fight + inventory) and sometimes people get only two events in a row before getting nothing (other times, I’ve gone as many as 14 days in a row without DR). Change characters or leave the map (even to WvW) for ‘enough’ time, and you can return. (How much is ‘enough’ and how long it resets for is not well understood.)

Kill Rhendak then go into WvW and kill a sentry is enough.
Unless you go and kill Rhendak a second time then the DR sticks to you like a plague and you have to wait until rollover. For the two daily chests anyway. The one that drops on death doesn’t seem to have this problem.

This could be what’s affecting the OP from getting loot from Shatterer, but doesn’t sound likely from their description, unless they also did the event several times within the same 24 hours (that would accelerate DR, near as I can tell from my limited testing). The easy way to test this would be for the OP to swap toons for that event or have that toon head for something else for ~1 hour of playing time (not afk or offline).

If it’s not DR, I’m not sure what it is nor whether Customer Service could help. Worth filing an in-game /bug report and filing a Support ticket, imo.

It sounds more like a remnant of the past.
The change went in shortly after they added the guaranteed rares to the world bosses but before they made them once per day per account. People had 1 character camped at each boss and since this was before the fixed spawn schedule as well you can use guesting to get a constant stream of rares. When the once per day limit was added this should have been removed but it wasn’t for some reason.

I used to have a character that did nothing but Maw and Shatterer. On one occasion I ended up doing just Shatterer on that character for several days because I happened to be on another character when Maw was up. Eventually got nothing but that was easily fixed by doing the event on a different character the next time it spawned.

I also had a character that was always at Shadow Behemoth but the problem never came up. On the other hand this character always did the pre-events for Shadow Behemoth.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

Kill Rhendak then go into WvW and kill a sentry is enough.
Unless you go and kill Rhendak a second time then the DR sticks to you like a plague and you have to wait until rollover. For the two daily chests anyway. The one that drops on death doesn’t seem to have this problem.

Not always. I’ve gotten DR from Rhendak (new for that toon) and then gone to WvW for an hour+ (tried ‘regular’ and EotM’) and still had DR on me at Rhendak the next time… or sometimes triggering the time after (i.e. I get a single event at best).

I suspect there’s some randomness to how quickly it builds up and how long (or what effort you need to put in) before it wears off. I also suspect there are more complicated mechanics than we can easily test — the more complicated and the greater the range in any triggers/anti-triggers, the less likely it is that bots can efficiently respond to it.

In any case, for this thread, the tl;dr is DR would explain why some people sometimes lose the opportunity for Shatterer loot. It’s also easy enough to test if that is what’s happening.

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Posted by: DougTheSlug.3920

DougTheSlug.3920

Both chest can also go missing if the character doesn’t do any other event.

That’s a pretty nasty bug there if that’s the truth… Strange that I don’t see any mentions of bugs on the shatterer wiki page?

It’s not a bug and it’s not directly related to the Shatterererererer. It’s an aspect of Diminishing Returns (which is on the wiki): if you keep doing the same event repeatedly, without moving around, you end up losing out on the event’s karma, xp, and bonus rewards (including the ‘bouncy’ chest on your screen & the ground chest).

This is easy to see at Rhendak’s tomb: takes up to 15 minutes per spawn (waiting + fight + inventory) and sometimes people get only two events in a row before getting nothing (other times, I’ve gone as many as 14 days in a row without DR). Change characters or leave the map (even to WvW) for ‘enough’ time, and you can return. (How much is ‘enough’ and how long it resets for is not well understood.)

This could be what’s affecting the OP from getting loot from Shatterer, but doesn’t sound likely from their description, unless they also did the event several times within the same 24 hours (that would accelerate DR, near as I can tell from my limited testing). The easy way to test this would be for the OP to swap toons for that event or have that toon head for something else for ~1 hour of playing time (not afk or offline).

If it’s not DR, I’m not sure what it is nor whether Customer Service could help. Worth filing an in-game /bug report and filing a Support ticket, imo.

tl;dr could be Diminishing Returns (and that can be tested); if it’s not, it’s probably going to be tricky to figure out.

Good luck and please let us know what (if anything) you discover, to better help the next person.

I don’t do shatterer that often. For kicks, I took this character into wvw and did dailies on it. That involved a variety of things including taking a tower.

Come back today and try shatterer.

Still nothing.

wtf anet?

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

In that case , it doesn’t sound like DR. You’ll have to contact ANet by creating a support ticket and working with them. (It also helps to use in the in-game /bug report tool — that gives them extra details about when/where etc.)

Good luck and sorry it’s not resolving for you easily.

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